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I tend to agree with You in general, but is'nt it a shame that an absolutely absurd issue like this is what it takes to get Us to the polls in "droves"? If California consevatives of all parties and republicans had gone to the polls in droves, The current Governor Might now be a fading memory. The American People need to wake up to issues that may not be as absurd as this one, but are absurd never the less. By all means, go to the polls. Vote. Thats the only thing We OWE for the freedoms We get.

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You're right, They go along with the government. It's the govt that has cultivated a society that now just seems to just go along with the program, in any issue. Can You believe people still vote in taxes? The govt passes laws that take away freedoms and a huge portion of the people sit there and take it. Sensitivity programs are high priority with the govt as are many other misguided notions, because it looks good on TV to people Who think in shallow terms. It's just too much trouble to examine the issues more closely, so they sit there and say OK. The sound bite is the gospel. In this country, We The People have only one debt to pay for the freedom We enjoy. That is to understand what's going on in this country and make Our voices heard. Unfortunately, not enough people give a damn.

Seems to Me, profiling is like finding a stolen car. At least They give You a description.

Yessir, and how would the government justify getting more money to fight crime if there wasn't enough crime. The solution to elininating crime is in removing the causes of it. IE: The tax system, scool system and the war on drugs, among others.

Hi,There are a number of facts I would like to share regarding gun laws and the Brady bill. First I'll tell You I've been a legal dealer for about 10 years through all of the brady bill mess. Soon, I am going to work for another company and happily getting rid of the FFL.The 700,000 figure would be delays, not denials. Denials are very few. Delay suposedly means that more info was needed before making a decision. The government is quick to use words like "criminals denied", It makes them sound like they are doing something and They are. They are driving up the cost of guns, making them more valuable and encouraging criminals to steal them, thus increasing burglaries and robberies. They are also delaying honest people on gun purchases, which I believe a reasonable person would feel is an infringement of 2nd amendment rights. They are also pressuring dealers, with vague and open ended rules and laws, which they interprit any way they want, making dealers liable to fines and possible criminal charges. they infringe upon free comerce, forcing honest customers to wait sometimes a week or more, without any explanation. It makes some customers nervious and they don't buy. My company has lost at least 15,000.00 in business since this thing started. I tell You this from personal experience. I related this story, to My senators and congressmen after it happened. More later about their response. Here we go: a guy walks into My shop and wants a handgun. He says He has another one to trade in. I say OK. We strike the deal. Then He fills out the 4473 yellow form. I call it in to the FBI. The FBI says delay. That means up to 3 business days, acording to their magic definition. I tell the guy, it could be an hour or a week, or anywhere in between. He says OK and leaves Me his handgun as a trade in on the new one. He goes home and said he would check with Me tomorrow, in case they call.Now this is where it gets bizarre. An hour later, the FBI calls and says He is denied. Not delay, DENY, I said OK, but what do I do with the handgun He was going to trade in? She said "keep it." I said It doesn't belong to Me. She said "Sell it". I said that it wasn't Mine to sell. She said " Well, You can't give it back to Him". I said "What do You want me to do with it?" She went to talk to a supervisor 3 times and each time said I could not return His gun. Finally she talked to a supervisor agian and said "Is it on Your books?" I told Her no, that it had only been here an hour and only guns that stay overnight have to be booked in. She said "Give it back to Him." I said "Are You sure?" She said "Yes, give it back." I asked " You mean I can give Him a gun, but I can't sell Him one?" She said " I guess so. Give it back to Him."I gave it back. The story gets even better. After 3 months of trying to clear up the mystery, He walks in agian. This time with a letter on FBI letterhead stating that He may purchase this one gun, It said "present this letter to the dealer where You applied for the purchase, further stating that if he wished to purchase others in the future, He would have to go through the process agian. He said, "What do You make of this?" I....I.....don't know. He asked if I could find out why they did this, because they refused to tell Him. I told him I could not, because they never tell Me why. He was a little frightened to buy the gun and I was a little paranoid about selling it to Him, anyway, He didn't buy it. I called and wrote My senators and congressmen and woman trying to get a handle on this. I contacted 3. One, a conservative did try to find out, He said that the justice Dept. (circa RENO) told him basically to take a hike. The other 2 Couldn't find out either. One is a lib. demo. She quit answering all together. The overwhelming majority of mistakes that allowed the "wrong" person to recieve a gun are made by the FBI, The BATF, or the sheer disfunctional charactor of the law. I have lots of examples of the failure of the brady bill. Gunshow "loopholes are not one of them. I can back these examples with facts. Hope You liked this one.

Hi, I don't really disagree with You. The need for taxes is there. The national defense and many other functions should be funded. It's just that the system is rotten. It takes a larger portion of the money to administrate than it should. That is why our taxes are so high. I don't know how many billions are spent every year paying people at the IRS to run it. I'll bet it's a lot. How many billions to lawyers litigating cases for and agianst the IRS? How many billions to accountants and book keepers? I say re-build the system. Make it efficient enough so that it doesn't waste more than it returns in benefits.

No, but she had a close personal relationship with bill clinton.

A friend of Mine is a charter pilot. He once said He dropped ms Albright off on an island in the bahamas. (she can afford to pay 2500.00 per flight hour and doesn't have to fly comercial). I asked Him if He dropped her off at about 500 feet. He got a kick out of that one. By the way, Charter aircraft pilots ARE allowed to carry firearms if company policy permits.

Point well taken

I stopped flying too, except when I am the pilot (small plane) and I am armed (small gun)

You bet it applies to aircraft. The person flying the aircraft is called the pilot in command (PIC). The FAA's rules state that in the interest of safety, The pilot in command may make any decision, even if it violates FAA rules in many circumstances. I also wonder why Bush won't stand up for Us and the pilots. Politics seem to be the ultimate solvent for common sense.

I guess that's true. It must be wiser to pay someone to spend Your money, than to spend it Yourself. HA!

Thanks, I was beginning to think only IRS employees and tax lawyers were reading this.

Yep, McCain is not middle of the road. He's run off onto the left shoulder.

I guess it has something to do with what the meaning of the word is is.

Right on. The complexity of the tax system costs money. With a simple system....one We can understand, without accountants and lawyers, We save money. The top heavy, expensive administration of this absurd system is draining us and so is credit card intrest and debt. All money down the drain to pay for IRS employees, lawyers, card companies and accountants. If We could get rid of the IRS and pay off our credit cards, a lot of people would actually have to get jobs that produce something and benifit society.

AMEN