Posted on 07/11/2003 7:20:53 PM PDT by DouglasKC
These widely accepted guidelines supposedly show that the present is the key to the past. According to this concept (often called uniformitarianism), since there are no worldwide or global floods occurring now, there have been none in the past.
Misled or confused by the scientific community, many readers of Genesis have given in to the concept of a regional or local flood. The Bible, however, is very clear about the magnitude and scope of Noahs Flood. The biblical story, both in Old and New Testaments, firmly tells us that planet Earth was indeed covered by a universal flood. (For background information concerning what really lies behind many scientists belief in evolution and its effect on their view of the Bible, request your free copies of Creation or Evolution: Does it Really Matter What You Believe? and Lifes Ultimate Question: Does God Exist?)
Biblical facts about Noahs Flood
The Bible says the deluge began in the 600th year of Noahs life. How long did it last? Many believe that the Flood merely lasted the 40 days and 40 nights of rain followed by a short drying period, after which the earth was ready for Noah and the animals.
They fail to realize how long the whole Flood episode lasted. The Noachian deluge lasted for more than a year (compare Genesis 7:11 and 8:14-15). During this time the earth was covered by water for 150 daysfive months. The Bible clearly states that the waters prevailed on the earth one hundred and fifty days (Genesis 7:24; 8:3-4).
How deep and how widespread was the water? Scripture indicates that the tops of all the mountains all around the world were covered to a depth of 15 cubits (Genesis 7:20)about 20 to 30 feet depending on the size of cubit that was used. Even assuming that the antediluvian mountains may not have been as high as some mountains are today, this still represents an enormous amount of water (see Psalm 104:5-9).
Another indication of the hydrological forces involved may be gathered from the following verse: . . . I will destroy them [along] with the earth (Genesis 6:13, emphasis added throughout). The earth would also be destroyed along with wicked humanity. This could well indicate a massive reshaping of global topography.
This statement is repeated at the conclusion of Noahs Flood: . . . Never again shall all flesh be cut off by the waters of the flood; never again shall there be a flood to destroy the earth (Genesis 9:11).
The Flood of Noahs time was an earth-wrecking experience. The shape of the landforms after the Flood may have been quite different from the earth that existed before the deluge. Some recent geological formations stand as natural witnesses to the destructive force of these raging waters (see Evidence of a Worldwide Flood).
The very need for the ark is a strong indication of the magnitude of the Flood.
If the Flood were only a local or regional event, it would have been a simple matter for Noah to move somewhere else. There would have been no need for the gathering of all the animals and Noahs family into the ark.
The Bible reveals that this deluge was of such a magnitude that provisions were made to assure the survival of both humanity and the animals. The whole point of building the ark would have been meaningless if the Flood were simply regional or local.
Peters perspective
The New Testament shows that its inspired writers considered a worldwide flood a real historic event. The apostle Peter wrote: For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water (2 Peter 3:5-6).
In this passage the apostle Peter affirms the reality of a global flood. Interestingly, he states that even during his time some people had willfully forgotten this obvious truth. How much more so in our skeptical world today?
The overall content of 2 Peter 3 also bears witness to the Floods universality.
In this prophetic chapter Peter also refers to the second coming of Jesus Christ (an event of worldwide importance in its scope, Matthew 24:30-32) and a future global cataclysm that will envelop the earth in fire. Clearly Peters basic perspective here is universalnot regional or local.
Jesus Christ also understood the Flood from the same global perspective. He used the Flood as an example in His teaching to illustrate an important spiritual lesson: . . . As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be also in the days of the Son of Man . . . until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all (Luke 17:26-27).
We see that the Bible repeatedly uses universal terminology to describe the dimensions and devastation of the Flood. The eighth-century-B.C. Hebrew prophet Isaiah also bore witness to a universal deluge. He quoted our Creator as saying: For this is like the waters of Noah to Me; for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah would no longer cover the earth, so have I sworn that I would not be angry with you, nor rebuke you (Isaiah 54:9).
Consider that there have been many local floods in the world since Noahs time. That being so, if the Flood of his day was merely local in scope too, then God would have lied in allowing more of them to happen. So if we accept the Bible and Gods promises in it, then we must conclude that the Flood of Noahs day was not merely a local event. It was a universal flood, the likes of which have never been seen againjust as God promised.
Faith and Noahs Flood
Of course, a Christians belief in the Bible is always supported by the element of faith in God and in the truthfulness of His Word. Even the Flood of Noah is mentioned in the context of godly faith.
By faith Noah, being divinely warned of things not yet seen, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark for the saving of his household, by which he condemned the world and became heir of righteousness which is according to faith (Hebrews 11:7). The patriarch Noah was one of the elders [who] obtained a good testimony by means of his faith and patience (verse 2).
Although ones belief in the inspiration of the Bible is clearly undergirded by rationality, common sense and even archaeological finds and historical records that often substantiate biblical eventsultimately it rests on faith that the Bible is both inspired by God and true.
Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see (verse 1, New International Version). Without faith we have no hope. As verse 6 tells us, . . . Without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him. GN
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Certainly it was UNIVERSAL!!
? Is the 'pope' jewish?
Yup...just putting this out there for the enlightment of those who may hold a different view. thanks for the bump.
If one goes under the assumption that the bible is infallible and its account of the flood therefore trumps any objections from science, the only response can be "why bother asking the question in the first place?"
To educate those who are willing to believe the truth.
Amen!!
'..........as it WAS in the days of Noah.....'
(Romans 10:17)
Maranatha!!
Absolutely Not. Only the entire earth was flooded, not the whole universe.
It depends on whose evaluating it, I suppose.
Or when you say "science" are you referring to a list of God Haters who cherry pick their evidence and view all of it through the religious perspective of uniformitarianism, abiogenesis, billions of years, information from nothing, material ex nihlo, the uncaused cause, and many other unprovable assumptions? Is that the "science" you are referring to?
Yawn. You can spare me the 'god-hater' hyperbole, thanks.
Let's start with a relatively simple observation, based on events as they are described in the book: where did all the water go?
First, roughly estimate how much water would have been needed to cover the planet to the top of Mt. Everest:
The radius of the Earth is approx. 6370km
The height of Everest above sea-level is approx. 8.8 km
Therefore, the volume of the Earth is approx. 1,082,696,932,000km³, or 1,080 billion cubic kilometers.
The volume of the earth to the height of Everest is 1,087,190,293,000km³
Subtracting the first volume from the second gives approx. 4,493,361,000, or four thousand, five hundred million cubic kilometers of water.
Also, this rain is supposed to have fallen within about 40 days. That means that there would have been about 220 metres of rainfall every day over the entire planet (8800/40 = 220) A few centimetres in a day is considered to be extremely heavy rain. I don't see the ark surviving that sort of blasting, firehose-like rain.
Assuming it was fresh water (as it rained) this would have severely diluted the oceans, causing devastation among the marine creatures. Virtually all sea-life that could not stand brackish water would have been destroyed.
How did so many plants survive being submerged in brackish water for so long? Many plants are quite sensitive to conditions. Take some of your household plants and leave them submerged in the bath or a pond for a year and see how they do.
Then, after the waters subside (where to?) there are still more problems with the story. What happened to all the corpses of the countless numbers of animals and humans that died? Surely there would have been terrible plague and disease caused by all that rotting meat.
Many sea-creatures would have been deposited in places they could not normally reach - inland lakes etc. Is there any evidence of marine fish skeletons being found in high, freshwater lake beds?
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