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Know What You Should Do at Mass and Why [barf alert---Freep this pastor!]
Church of the Holy Family bulletin, Diocese of Richmond ^ | Fr. Tom Quinlan

Posted on 01/23/2003 11:51:59 AM PST by Polycarp

Know What You Should Do at Mass and Why

Many parishes have a Miss Manners section which is O.K., but what we need is a Miss Know-Why-You’re-Doing-What-You-Should-Do at Mass, because of the theology it signifies. It is not a local whim!

1. Everyone in this parish should receive a piece of the consecrated Bread, and drink from the common cup. Jesus (not the Church) instituted the Mass in ratione coenae (in the nature of a meal), not in the form of a snack. Nine hundred years of host ("What’s that?" Jesus would say.) history does not excuse us from the twofold facet of communing as Jesus intended and the Bible handed on.

2. People who enter the building, which their presence in Faith will make into a church, should reach into the Baptismal Font and bless themselves, educating their children to do the same. This applies to the innumerable latecomers. Incidentally, if you are ten minutes late (look at your watch in the parking lot), go to another Mass. Missing the three Bible readings manifests your misunderstanding of what Mass is: Word and Meal.

3. Do not leave early. The priest should always be the first one out of the church. If you have prescheduled appointments, reschedule your Mass. Last week I confronted three people leaving early. And one of them, to add insult to injury, had blessed herself on the way out–a meaningless, pietistic gesture.

4. Do not bring any games, toys, Cheerios, etc., to the church building. Little children belong in the nursery, and younger children at the Liturgy of the Word. If you have uncontrollable children, consult psychiatrist listings, or arrange with your life-sharing spouse to go to separate Liturgies until control is restored in the family (which is usually the problem). There are a few exceptions–autistic children, et similia, who are more than welcome.

5. When the cantor introduces the service, answer the "Good Morning" or "Good Evening". That’s the cue to stop conversation. In our parish, the older people seem to be the chief offenders. When the cantor leads the singing, or the lector is reading, they are presiding at that part of the Mass. Look at them and pay attention to them. The overall presider is the presbyter (Priest), but not the only one. Notice that when the cantor is leading the Hallelujah how the priest turns and faces him/her, an acknowledgement of presidency.

6. When there is a lull, it is not a signal to start chattering. I have noticed it before the first reading, at the presentation of gifts, and even during Holy Communion! However, the chattering, laughing, howling, and conversation before the cantor signals the beginning of the service is highly encouraged.

7. When it is time to sing, everyone sing. When it is time to be silent, everyone should be quiet. The Mass has ups and downs built into it. You should have ups and downs in your moods, singing, and actions.

8. Do not be a hostgrabber. Put both hands out for the Eucharistic minister (ordained or not) to place in your hand. Say "amen" loudly so all around you can hear. Look at the Body and Blood as you receive it.n No looking at the priest, or closing your eyes, and certainly not making the sign of the Cross, genuflecting, or other meaningless actions. You blessed yourself in the Baptismal Font at the beginning of Mass, and before the opening Prayer–that's enough.

More later.


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To: ArrogantBustard
Amen. VERY UGLY. If you could see the hideous 'art' that passes for the tabernacle at St. Ed's in Richmond, you'd have nighmares.
41 posted on 01/23/2003 6:09:42 PM PST by constitutiongirl
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To: MudPuppy
Sorry, but this "priest" is NOT preaching Catholicism. The Mass is the re-presentation of the Sacrifice on the Cross, not "Word and Meal."

"Word and Meal" was invented by Martin Luther, who was ripped off by Calvin, Zwingli, and others.

Please re-consider your "agreement" with this protestant who is fraudulently taking money from the Catholics.
42 posted on 01/23/2003 8:34:50 PM PST by ninenot
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To: Gophack
On this we will disagree vehemently. Allow me to quote, roughly: "suffer the little ones to come to Me."

He did not tell their mothers to take them to a crying room.

The reason this "priest" has such an unruly parish is that neither he (nor his parishioners) believe in the Real Presence and in what transpires at Mass.

He just happened to write a letter demonstrating his position clearly.

The parishioners act on their unbelief.

43 posted on 01/23/2003 8:37:33 PM PST by ninenot
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To: ArrogantBustard
Funeral Parlor, appropriately enough. Lots of dead souls about..
44 posted on 01/23/2003 8:40:25 PM PST by ninenot
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To: SoothingDave; Polycarp
I've decided that 'niceness' is no longer useful. When a locally-born Jebby heretic was allowed to preach at our Parish one Sunday, I simply dressed him down loudly right in the vestibule after Mass.

Turned a few heads. Screw 'em. The Jebby was NEVER allowed to preach again.
45 posted on 01/23/2003 8:45:19 PM PST by ninenot
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To: sandyeggo
must be that red hair - I still think the book Alexander and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good Very Bad Day was written just for him.

King David was a red head!

46 posted on 01/23/2003 8:51:17 PM PST by TotusTuus
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To: constitutiongirl
I knew his teeth looked way too white! ;-)

Like I said, it could be worse, his "beloved" dogs could be poodles.

We all have our own "way of the cross," inferior by far to His, but we do carry one. It ain't easy. I feel for you. We had Cardinal Law, personally he was a lovely man and talked an orthodox talk, but he did not walk the walk. The dissent here would stun you.

48 posted on 01/23/2003 9:55:44 PM PST by american colleen
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To: sandyeggo
Alexander and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good Very Bad Day

I love that book! Also "I love you this much" -- the one with the mother and her son as he grows older and so does she.

49 posted on 01/23/2003 9:58:46 PM PST by american colleen
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To: Polycarp
Actually, while this is way over the top, there has been a downward movement in many Catholic Churches with regard to civility and respect and politeness during Mass. I have routinely seen kids eating breakfast in the pews; I have routinely heard people engaging in conversation during mass; people routinely, in our parish, leave the Church just as the final hymn starts to be sung. When children are misbehaving, parents seem increasingly reluctant to remove them - resulting in the priest trying to speak at times above the din of several children crying or having temper tantrums. In short, I have noticed over the years, a steady decline in respect for the Mass itself.
50 posted on 01/24/2003 5:10:09 AM PST by yendu bwam
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To: ninenot
You may very well be right. And the "Word and Meal" you mentioned makes me think this whole thing is a hoax. You think?
51 posted on 01/24/2003 5:52:16 AM PST by Gophack
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To: ArrogantBustard
That is a pretty hideous sanctuary.

Oh, and for the record, when the priest's sermons start actually having a point, I'll make it a point to be on time for Mass.

Some days I'm almost tempted to jump up and start shouting at priests who need some serious public speaking lessons. HAVE A POINT!!! Don't babble on endlessly. If you see the ENTIRE CONGREGATION shifting in their seats, talking, sleeping, etc. STOP THE SERMON!!! Stop it in mid sentence if you have to. I'm of the opinion that a sermon should be no more than 10 minutes. 5 minutes is probably best.

/rant.
52 posted on 01/24/2003 6:41:11 AM PST by jjm2111
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To: B Knotts
What's the difference between EEMs and EMs?
53 posted on 01/24/2003 6:44:22 AM PST by jjm2111
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To: jjm2111
"EM" is a rather misleading shorthand for "EEM."

The point is that Extraordinary Eucharistic Ministers are supposed to be just that: extraordinary. Unfortunately, in the American Church they have become rather ordinary.

The Vatican has instructed that:

"Extraordinary ministers may distribute Holy Communion at eucharistic celebrations only when there are no ordained ministers present or when those ordained ministers present at a liturgical celebration are truly unable to distribute Holy Communion. They may also exercise this function at eucharistic celebrations where there are particularly large numbers of the faithful and which would be excessively prolonged because of an insufficient number of ordained ministers to distribute Holy Communion."

Unfortunately, this is not followed much in the U.S.

54 posted on 01/24/2003 7:04:18 AM PST by B Knotts
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To: B Knotts
They may also exercise this function at eucharistic celebrations where there are particularly large numbers of the faithful and which would be excessively prolonged because of an insufficient number of ordained ministers to distribute Holy Communion."

This seems to be the case at most parishes in the D/FW area. At my parish, we'd be there all day if the priest didn't have help.

55 posted on 01/24/2003 7:34:41 AM PST by al_c
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To: ArrogantBustard
I have also lived in the diocese of Richmond. This is all so typical. I often wondered if perhaps I was really in a Methodist church or maybe even a Unitarian church.
56 posted on 01/24/2003 7:45:07 AM PST by k omalley
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To: al_c
This seems to be the case at most parishes in the D/FW area. At my parish, we'd be there all day if the priest didn't have help.

Every Mass is extraordinarily crowded?

SD

57 posted on 01/24/2003 8:32:28 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: B Knotts
Thank you.
58 posted on 01/24/2003 9:30:31 AM PST by jjm2111
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To: SoothingDave
Every Mass is extraordinarily crowded?

Yep. :o(
We have thousands of people in our parish ... one of the largest in the diocese.

Odd ... when we first moved here, we looked for a small parish but couldn't find one near our home. We visited St. Elizabeth Ann Seton and immediately knew it was the right parish despite the large numbers.

59 posted on 01/24/2003 9:30:48 AM PST by al_c
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To: SoothingDave
Also ... we don't have the large number of parishes (per capita) that you guys in Penn have. That tends to make each parish have a rather large population.
60 posted on 01/24/2003 9:32:07 AM PST by al_c
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