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Did Communists Infiltrate the Catholic Church?
http://www.chuckmorse.com/communism_catholic_church.html ^ | Chuck Morse

Posted on 07/26/2002 2:35:57 PM PDT by narses

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To: Domestic Church
Here are the links you asked for. I hope no one accuses me of trying to weaken the faith, malign the Pope or of being an extreme trad SSPXer. Cause I ain't. I'm only an orthodox Catholic, like most of us here, trying to understand the history of the Church and doing my best with the grace of God to live the faith in Jesus Christ. Lately it seems that a disclaimer needs to be written for what some FReepers post for discussion and refutation. Sheesh.

"Present at the Demolition
An interview with Dr. Alice von Hildebrand
A Philosopher Remembers and Reminds"

"Catechism on the Errors of Vatican II"

As an addendum: The greater truth for me is that the Pope is Peter's successor and the Vicar of Christ.

101 posted on 07/27/2002 8:01:42 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: american colleen
Thank you, this looks interesting to say the least. Someone in my family graduated from Hunter back in the 30's and she says it was full of card carrying communists back then.
102 posted on 07/27/2002 8:55:19 AM PDT by Domestic Church
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To: american colleen
Colleen,

I believe you are an "orthodox Catholic" along with most everyone here. But, that last link you posted is to a very whacked out bunch.

p.s. I'm no fan of Merton either. :-)

103 posted on 07/27/2002 9:02:18 AM PDT by Sock
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To: Sock
But, that last link you posted is to a very whacked out bunch.

I agree, they are a whacked out bunch, but when you do a search for "Bella Dodd" that link comes up. I read as much as I can, probably disagree with most of it, and file it away. It's all you can do.

104 posted on 07/27/2002 9:06:01 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: american colleen
I wonder, is Dr. Hildebrand on the FR Index of forbidden authors? Is Walter Cardinal Kasper? Where is this mysterious Index and what are the rules?

The witch hunt attitude of some here gets tiring.
105 posted on 07/27/2002 9:07:26 AM PDT by narses
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To: american colleen
Click on the link at the bottom of that page.
106 posted on 07/27/2002 9:09:02 AM PDT by Sock
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To: american colleen
"Present at the Demolition" is a great read. I will re-read it again more carefully. What an incredible view from an impeccable Catholic. Thank you.
107 posted on 07/27/2002 9:18:08 AM PDT by narses
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To: Sock
Yes, I've fully explored that site - what the heck are they? They aren't SSPXers, just another whacky group, I guess. They have a pretty extensive page on John XXIII and the Mason connection... like I said earlier, you read this stuff and just file it away. I'll go with the pope on this, every time.
108 posted on 07/27/2002 9:29:45 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: Sock
I just noticed how far out that site is too. Still it is good to see the arguments. Since John XXIII there have been many miracles and there have been those extraordinary phenomena for example, St.Pio, Mother Teresa, Betania and the appearance of Our Lady there....and most of all the continual Eucharistic miracles around the world. I think it is safe to say that God is very much with us no matter what the sins of the hierarchy have been.
109 posted on 07/27/2002 9:31:31 AM PDT by Domestic Church
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To: Domestic Church
I think it is safe to say that God is very much with us no matter what the sins of the hierarchy have been.

Amen! And that is the bottom line.

110 posted on 07/27/2002 9:34:27 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: narses
The Hildebrands are eminent Catholic authors and their books are sold by Ignatius Press. I can't imagine their being on a blacklist.
111 posted on 07/27/2002 9:34:40 AM PDT by Domestic Church
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To: Catholicguy
You needn't be so sarcastic when correcting me.
112 posted on 07/27/2002 10:26:00 AM PDT by Litany
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To: BlackVeil
"Moreover, these men all died in violent deaths (suicides and murders) before the matter could fully be investigated."

Sounds like Satan was claiming his own. Anybody who gives up their chance for Heaven for the temporary pleasures and treasures of earth has (knowingly or unknowingly) made a pact with the devil for their souls. They haven't read the fine print: Their souls are forfeit, and they are inescapably bound. They must do more and more, reach farther, grasp for more, always seeking that elusive "happiness" that Satan holds out before them like a carrot on a string. But Satan ALWAYS lies. He is the FATHER of lies. These souls have been lied to in the temptations they yielded to when they chose the pleasures/treasures of this world and gave up the chance for eternal life in the Next.

113 posted on 07/27/2002 12:11:46 PM PDT by redhead
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To: narses
The continuing and ever present desire to take the divinity away from Jesus Christ and make him "just a man",like you and I,or maybe a judge or an officer,to whom we owe respect.

I at times,am amused by the modernists who look at the "evolution" and maturing of man,for example,but insist that for "authenticity" we must stifle the organic development of anything and revert to 50A.D.,or 300A.D.,or wherever they choose to stop the clock.

I prefer to kneel,as did Christ,when He prayed to the Father,or I think of the phrase,from scripture,"and every knee shall bend".

114 posted on 07/27/2002 1:13:53 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: american colleen
"Catechism on the Errors of Vatican II"

Nice link, AC. I guess an Ecumenical Council is not infallible. This is news to me

115 posted on 07/27/2002 1:19:51 PM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Litany
You needn't be so sarcastic when correcting me.

Sorry. I did post that personally to you and I should not have. I wasn't trying to upset you. Narses specialises in posting stuff that undermines the authority of the Hierarchy or is critical of the Pope and this is just Commie garbage is yet ANOTHER example of how he tries to frighten others and undermine their confidence.

116 posted on 07/27/2002 1:34:43 PM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: american colleen
I hope no one accuses me of trying to weaken the faith,

Posting a site that attacks an Ecumenical Council? Why would that undermine or weaken one's Faith?

117 posted on 07/27/2002 1:36:58 PM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Catholicguy
After your nasty private FReepmail to me, I figured you wouldn't waste your time posting to me. Glad to see you are still on the alert for possible unorthodox postings. I was testing you. Keep up the good work.
118 posted on 07/27/2002 3:34:19 PM PDT by american colleen
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To: Domestic Church; Litany
I'm aware, I was poking at those hounding people who post what they considers blasphemy, heresy, schism or sin.
119 posted on 07/27/2002 3:38:48 PM PDT by narses
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To: Catholicguy
Narses specialises in posting stuff that undermines the authority of the Hierarchy or is critical of the Pope and this is just Commie garbage is yet ANOTHER example of how he tries to frighten others and undermine their confidence.

Your post is both dishonest (I post many things and what I try to do is elicit comments from which I can learn) and cowardly (as you don't "ping" me as I am told is the custom here). I have asked you before and I ask you again, stop attacking me.

120 posted on 07/27/2002 3:42:21 PM PDT by narses
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