[Domestic Church]

I just noticed how far out that site is too. Still it is good to see the arguments. Since John XXIII there have been many miracles and there have been those extraordinary phenomena for example, St.Pio, Mother Teresa, Betania and the appearance of Our Lady there....and most of all the continual Eucharistic miracles around the world. I think it is safe to say that God is very much with us no matter what the sins of the hierarchy have been.

[american colleen]

I think it is safe to say that God is very much with us no matter what the sins of the hierarchy have been.

Amen! And that is the bottom line.