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1 posted on 06/24/2002 2:56:51 PM PDT by Texaggie79
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2 posted on 06/24/2002 2:57:15 PM PDT by Texaggie79
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Why discuss this? All these 'criticisms' of evolution are obsolete, having been answered by the evolution community.

Note however, that strictly speaking, "Evolution" itself is not about how reproducing life was first created but about the methods by which genetic characteristics change over time.

3 posted on 06/24/2002 3:03:20 PM PDT by spqrzilla9
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just out of curiosity, are you ignorant, stupid, or insane?
4 posted on 06/24/2002 3:03:36 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee
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Well, for one thing, the origin of life from simple organic and inorganic precursors into living cells is not expected to have gone from zero to a full eukaryotic cell in one fell swoop. For another thing, the argument about the origin of life, and the science of how new species had and have originated are two different issues. So, trying to condemn the theory and fact of evolution by talking about issues on the origin of life itself is misleading.
5 posted on 06/24/2002 3:05:11 PM PDT by RonF
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And why'd you have to go and get that other thread pulled by posting the big bud?
6 posted on 06/24/2002 3:05:55 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee
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Evolution Is Biologically Impossible
Institute for Creation Research, PO Box 2667, El Cajon, CA 92021

This is not an academic institution with the credentials to discuss scientific inquiry.

8 posted on 06/24/2002 3:05:59 PM PDT by stanz
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Same old same old. This same analysis can be applied to some pretty basic chemical reactions, with the conclusion that they are unlikely enough not to have occurred (although not as unlikely as the numbers they cook up for DNA). The only way to rescue the argument is to have tiny angels pushing the atoms into place.
10 posted on 06/24/2002 3:07:35 PM PDT by Physicist
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Taking a test tube and cooking it for a few years is not the same as having tide pools over all the coasts of the earth over billions of years.

Even if evolution were not true, it is a useful theory because of comparative anatomy. Further I don't think a kind and loving god would place all the evidence of comparative anatomy around the world and give us logical reasoning brains and expect us not to conclude that evolution is a useful and probably correct theory just for the fun of tricking us.

Finally, if the burden of proof rest with the one proposing the theory, then I would like to see someone prove the existence of god or else everyone must become aetheits.

12 posted on 06/24/2002 3:09:49 PM PDT by staytrue
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If there were any truth to the evolution myth, we would have all evolved into the same animal. There would be no dogs, bees, trees, cats, birds, etc. We would have all evolved into the same kind of creature. As it is, God created the earth to sustain life, not the other way around. That is my story [for 51 years now] and I am sticking to it.
14 posted on 06/24/2002 3:14:33 PM PDT by buffyt
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Mighty big Axe that guy is grinding. I once put some dog urine into a test tube with some cow dung and yeast. Maybe it wasn't living but it had a life of it's own....
15 posted on 06/24/2002 3:15:43 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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Anybody that cites Dembski as a credible source for mathematics (or chemistry for that matter) has pretty much poisoned their own arguments. As has been pointed out before, Dembski has numerous mathematical failings in his writing. I don't even have to disagree with ID to find fault with Dembski -- his mathematics are just plain wrong (and obviously so to a mathematician in the relevant fields) and he discredits his entire argument by it.
18 posted on 06/24/2002 3:19:48 PM PDT by tortoise
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Evolution Is Biologically Impossible

Absolute, breathtaking, stupidity.

Which trailerpark was this opinion written in?

20 posted on 06/24/2002 3:20:00 PM PDT by Bandolier
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Why do you freaks keep posting this crap? Are you THAT blinded by your hope or your need to believe that the bible is absolutely true? Can't there be a God (And there IS) that works through evolution?

I mean REALLY! Why would all these scientists LIE (Or even worse yet, be TOTALLY AND COMPLETELY WRONG) all these years? What's in it for them???

Get over it! The Bible is an OUTSTANDING novel written by a bunch of barely post stone age guys who NEEDED to explain their existances to themselves. That (More than likely) FACT does NOT mean God doesn't exist. Hell, according to you staunch Christians, my dear old grandmother...A woman who did NOTHING but make other people happy for 80 years while fearing and worshiping God...Is burning in hell because she didn't accept YOUR view of the proper way to worship.

Damn...I'm beginning to think you people are as clueless as you say Muslims are...

35 posted on 06/24/2002 3:33:56 PM PDT by Johnny Shear
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The Blind Atheist
40 posted on 06/24/2002 3:39:26 PM PDT by Raymond Hendrix
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Evolution Is Biologically Impossible

A 'static' design theory of the universe, the world, matter and the elements that constitute the aforentioned?

Fits right in there with the "Flat Earth concept", the "Earth and Man are the center of the Universe' and other similar and erroneous concepts relegated to the trash heap of history ...

Does this man also discount the theory of germs?

I'll bet not!

41 posted on 06/24/2002 3:39:53 PM PDT by _Jim
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Here, read this.
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=000D4FEC-7D5B-1D07-8E49809EC588EEDF&catID=2
56 posted on 06/24/2002 3:50:23 PM PDT by The Mike Device
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What's his PhD in?
61 posted on 06/24/2002 3:56:47 PM PDT by Junior
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Life was designed. It did not evolve.

What is your proof? You use your false statistics to try to disprove the only usable theory on how life began without offering a counter-theory. If only we are to believe you ....

71 posted on 06/24/2002 4:02:32 PM PDT by cinFLA
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Joseph Mastropaolo is the author of this article. At the article's end, it says: "Dr. Mastropaolo is an adjunct professor of physiology for the ICR Graduate School." Here's a website (part of the ICR site) alleging to describe him: Joseph A. Mastropaolo, Ph.D. . If this stuff is genuine, the guy's not an idiot. Except when it comes to evolution, of course.
98 posted on 06/24/2002 4:16:37 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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Or to put it in evolutionary terms, if a random mutation is provided every second from the alleged birth of the universe, then to date that protein molecule would be only 43% of the way to completion.

Pretty good math other than the arbitrary one mutation per second. When the premise of your argument is flawed, everything that follows is flawed. Why not 10 mutations per second? 10,000 mutations per second? 10 Billion mutations per second?

113 posted on 06/24/2002 4:28:46 PM PDT by Equality 7-2521
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