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Anybody that cites Dembski as a credible source for mathematics (or chemistry for that matter) has pretty much poisoned their own arguments. As has been pointed out before, Dembski has numerous mathematical failings in his writing. I don't even have to disagree with ID to find fault with Dembski -- his mathematics are just plain wrong (and obviously so to a mathematician in the relevant fields) and he discredits his entire argument by it.