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This might be the straw that brings it all down.
1 posted on 04/27/2002 9:37:19 AM PDT by TheLurkerX
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we should be so lucky. (sarcasm)
2 posted on 04/27/2002 9:42:06 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More
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Let's hold our breath for the UN and EU to call this an outrage and launch an investigation. Opps - I dont think that is a good idea.
3 posted on 04/27/2002 9:42:09 AM PDT by Democrats are liars
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Palestinians Attack Jewish Settlement
Saturday, April 27, 2002

JERUSALEM — Four Israelis, including a 5-year-old girl, were shot dead in their houses by Palestinian gunmen who dressed as soldiers and snuck into a West Bank Israeli settlement Saturday.

The shooters sliced through the protective perimeter fence of the Adora settlement just west of Hebron, slinking from residence to residence and firing at people in their bedrooms. In one house, a couple was shot — the woman fatally. In another home, a young girl was murdered; her mother and two younger brothers were wounded.

Yaakov Shefi, the father of the slain girl, was in the synagogue and rushed home when he heard the shots. Shefi, a policeman, said his wife was sitting with their daughter and two sons, aged 4 and 1, when the gunmen broke into the room and sprayed them with gunfire.

"She remembers pushing the children under the bed. She said, 'Be quiet and don't cry, so that they don't come back,"' Shefi said.

Anat Harari said the gunman shot at her through the kitchen window, wounding her in the shoulder. She fled to the bathroom, where she phoned her parents on her mobile phone.

"I am on the floor, bleeding in a pool of blood, in the bathroom. I stay on the phone with my parents. I am talking to my parents without stopping. I tell them what is going on. I tell them, it's not the army, it's terrorists in disguise. And I wait for help," Harari said later from a hospital bed.

Many of the settlers were attending Sabbath prayers in the synagogue when the attack began. Some rushed to the area to confront the infiltrators but were unable to find them, said Lt. Gen. Amos Ben Avraham.

At least seven were injured in the sneak attack, which began around 9 a.m. Afterwards, the shooters disappeared, according to Avraham.

It was the worst attack on a West Bank settlement since Israeli forces burst into the area on March 29 in an operation to hunt down Palestinian militants.

After the Adora attack, Israeli troops launched a large-scale manhunt in the Hebron region on Saturday, searching Taffuh, the closest Palestinian village. In Hebron, Palestinian security officers abandoned their buildings, expecting an Israeli reprisal.

Israeli troops conducted a house-to-house search in Adora, fearing that at least one gunman may be hiding and holding hostages. But they found no one.

The Adora killings ratcheted up tensions between Palestinians and Israelis after Israel withdrew from several main towns last week and negotiations were progressing to resolve two long standoffs.

Overnight, Israeli troops withdrew from Qalqiliya, a town in the northern West Bank, after a daylong incursion. As it withdrew, the army underlined that it would enter any areas "it feels necessary in order to thwart terrorist activity."

There was no immediate claim of responsibility for Saturday's attack. It came several days after Israeli forces killed Marwan Zalloum, the Hebron leader of the Al Aqsa Martyr's Brigades, a militia linked to Yasser Arafat's Fatah movement.

Israel said it held Arafat's Palestinian Authority responsible, as it does for nearly all Palestinian attacks against Israel or its settlements.

Israeli Cabinet Minister Tzachi Hanegbi, on hearing about the settlement attack, said, "The war against terror is not over." Just before Israel launched its West Bank offensive, a Palestinian attacker killed four Israelis in a West Bank settlement. In December, gunman attacked a bus near a settlement in the northern West Bank, killing 10 people.

In their West Bank offensive, Israeli forces entered villages in the Hebron area, but there were not the large-scale occupations seen elsewhere. Israel scaled back its operation last week, withdrawing from the city centers of several main towns.

Israel and the Palestinians, meanwhile, tried to find ways to resolve standoffs in Ramallah and Bethlehem, where Israel has said it won't completely withdraw its forces until wanted Palestinians in both surrender.

A Palestinian negotiator, Salah Taameri, consulted with Arafat at his besieged headquarters about Israeli proposals to end the 25-day standoff at Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity, where some 200 people, including 30 militiamen, were under siege. After a nearly three-hour meeting at the Ramallah compound, Taameri returned to Bethlehem.

The focus of negotiations to resolve the standoff centered on the fate of six wanted men holed up inside — whether they will be escorted to the Gaza Strip, as the Palestinians propose, or be sent into exile, as Israel demands.

Palestinians inside the church said by telephone that Israeli snipers shot one man walking in the church courtyard Saturday, wounding him in the abdomen. The Palestinians were trying to arrange his safe evacuation through the international Red Cross.

A U.N. fact-finding mission, which had been due to arrive Saturday to start an investigation into a battle in Jenin refugee camp, was delayed a day because of the Sabbath. Palestinian say Israeli forces indiscriminately killed civilians in the northern West Bank camp. Israel denies the accusation, saying casualties were mainly Palestinian militants killed in fierce gunbattles.

In the second standoff, at Arafat's Ramallah compound, Israel demands the Palestinians hand over six wanted men inside. Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon told Secretary of State Colin Powell by telephone Friday that he was willing to release Arafat from confinement if he agreed to leave for Gaza or anywhere in the West Bank without the wanted men, an Israeli official said on condition of anonymity.

It appeared unlikely Arafat would agree since he has said he would not hand over the men — five of whom allegedly were involved in the assassination of an Israeli Cabinet minister and the sixth in arms smuggling.

President Bush repeatedly has demanded Israel leave the Palestinian towns. He said Friday he'd had enough of the Israeli incursions. "It's now time to quit it altogether," Bush said.

Israeli forces pulled out of Qalqiliya in the northern West Bank late Friday night.

The army said it had "neutralized" three explosives-making laboratories in Qalqiliya and arrested 20 Palestinians, including 11 who remained in custody after troops left the town.

Raed Nazal, the local leader of a radical PLO faction, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, was killed in a firefight.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

4 posted on 04/27/2002 9:44:09 AM PDT by ml/nj
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Let's hope we see this headline tomorrow.......

"Israeli's Wipe Out Entire Palistinian Neighborhood"


7 posted on 04/27/2002 9:45:53 AM PDT by Icthus
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Arm the settlers!
8 posted on 04/27/2002 9:47:00 AM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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Time for the jihadist pigs to die. The Idf can send them to allah, wholesale!
9 posted on 04/27/2002 9:47:53 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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These two populations have GOT to be separated, and something even more effective than the Berlin wall put up between them to keep them apart. Does anyone have even one shred of real evidence to suggest that anything else will come even close to stopping this murder of innocents? What in the hell are people waiting for? If the Israelis need to do it unilaterally, then just do it, and tell the rest of the world to shove it.
11 posted on 04/27/2002 9:48:39 AM PDT by Stefan Stackhouse
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I'll bet the IDF is glad they avoided international condemnation and went to all that trouble to avoid civilian casualties by not using F15's and Gunships on Jenin....

Time for another cocktail...

16 posted on 04/27/2002 9:58:00 AM PDT by Frances_Marion
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Okay, Ariel. Time to unleash unholy hell.
17 posted on 04/27/2002 9:58:21 AM PDT by rdb3
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Excuse me, but isn't this a war crime? Aren't their any dope-smoking lefties who are ready to be human shields to prevent this sort of thing. Or do they only want to hang around Arafat? (Perhaps he smells more like "home" to them).
22 posted on 04/27/2002 10:05:58 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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Islam is a peaceful and loving religion.
75 posted on 04/27/2002 11:18:12 AM PDT by Terriergal
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Why is it that Arab countries (think Jordan) have never offered displaced Palestinians land? Didn't Jordan kill more than 20,000 Palestinians in 1967 who were trying to "occupy" the west bank?

Apparently Arabs don't like Arabs.

95 posted on 04/27/2002 11:35:46 AM PDT by sandydipper
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1) Shouldn't the same people who say the Palestinians deserve their own state be calling for Calf, Tx, NM, AZ to divide up for the Mexicans

2) Doesn't the logic that they need to be totaly separate and the Jewish settlements need to go translate to the Mexicans here need to go back to Mexico

3) If Palestine is a State or Country, do most fools think the terrorism will stop, and if it doesn't , does Israel still have a right to defend herself?

Some in America view the situation as they only want their own state, some say they are suffering from occupation ( isn't California ) , I truly think most view this with common sense. Common sense says that the Arabs want all israilis dead, period.

Even the Mexicans in California who want Aztlan do not have suicide bombers , much less want all Americans dead.

There needs to be an all out war where the will of the people are crushed to the point that they finally see their way is wrong and they personally dont want no more killings. Germany had to be bombed all the way to Hitlers hq in Berlin. The battle had to go to the heartland in Japan and scores of citizens killed before they saw their way was wrong if for no other reason than to prevent total obliteration.

But alas, most here say pretty much the same thing, and Fox news gets it. So why doesn't our own leaders pull their heads out of their buts and get it? Want to avoid an inevitable war? Hell, let's get it over while it appears the good of this world still have a chance to win.

And, Mr. Bush, it aint Iraq that is the major threat to our future. I cant name one of the wtc killers from Iraq. No, the saudis probably did not send them over here, just as Afganistan did not send them over here.

Mr. president, an ideology sent them over here, and common sense says if 15 were Saudi citizens, then saudi ideology created them. Call it religon, or call it mindset, the bottom line is those who dont fit ( us, israel ) they want dead.

And last, I am not fooled by " this is a palestinian / israeli problem ". BS - the pals are only puppets of the other Arab regimes who find it cheaper and safer to support guerillas among their enemies mist rather than an all out military challenge. And as these agents set up in ours and other countries under the guise of a peaceful religon, be prepared to see the violence spread.

Actually, that's why we have our color coded teror alerts. This way we know the threat level from their infiltrators while they set back safe in their countries and celebrate a successful attack on us without risking anything but some money. They probably do wonder what desert or mountain we would bomb next.

Look, the writing is on the wall for all with common sense to see. Why not quit playing footsie and let's join with israel and really kick some ass. And if China, Russia, and Koria dont like seeing their America hating friends bleed, and they want a cut of the action, we'll lets share.

97 posted on 04/27/2002 11:37:23 AM PDT by lotus
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Let's hope that PResident Bush calls for calm and restraint on the part of both the Palestinians and Israel

/sarcasm
104 posted on 04/27/2002 11:42:29 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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Screw Arab Oil...punch holes in Palestinians and WildLife Refuges...enough is enough...I would sooner fight with the Israelis then see them pull out. Sterilize the West Bank and let the chips fall where they may
106 posted on 04/27/2002 11:49:01 AM PDT by antaresequity
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Anybody want to bet that the international human rights organizations will have zero/zippo/nada/zilch/a big goose egg to say about this?
126 posted on 04/27/2002 12:28:49 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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This is different then what the Israelis do in the camps how exactly? Their soldiers go house to house and kill Palestinians including infants and children and it's called "collateral damage."
134 posted on 04/27/2002 12:36:44 PM PDT by Demidog
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Every time something like this happend, I - if I were Sharon - would lob a 2000 lb. bomb over the fence randomly into the PA area.

They would get the idea very quickly about messing with the big dog.

152 posted on 04/27/2002 1:02:15 PM PDT by PLMerite
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A picture of the little girl killed by the PLO Terrorist/Murders.

Danielle Sheffi, age 5

166 posted on 04/27/2002 1:26:49 PM PDT by drq
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Where is the UN whining and crying about atrocities? I support Israel's right to clean house in the West Bank.
192 posted on 04/27/2002 1:57:37 PM PDT by rbmillerjr
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