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To: RnMomof7
You stand your ground , I just wish you would consider that maybe, just maybe you are reading the scriptures to support your belief and not reading the scriptures in context and taken as a whole.

RNMom, I have no beliefs in the matter to support, the Church I attend does not teach the same things I believe on this matter, but I have still not read anything so far that has changed my mind.

If you decide to post me on the matter fine, as long as they are short and concise, but I’m not going to compete to see who can use up the most cyberspace. I’ll answer any question you ask, but I will not respond to the filibusters I have seen so far.

If you need 4 pages to answer a 4 line question, then it’s not an answer, it’s smoke.

Lete me see if you will answer a question concerning a scripture with out confounding me with many words?

Mark 16:12 After that he appeared in another form unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country.

How many different forms could Jesus appear in, after He had received His glorified body?

He used one form here In John, one when he passed through the walls where the believers were gathered, and he used another form when Thomas inspected His wounds, and one when He warned Marry Magdalene not to touch Him, and several other times many did not recognize Him.

Will our body only have one state, or many as Jesus did?

JH :-)

65,226 posted on 08/17/2003 9:16:40 PM PDT by JHavard (Apply for membership to the "CFDS"...Church Founded on Difficult Scripture. :-)
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To: JHavard
Mark 16:12 After that he appeared in another form unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country.

How many different forms could Jesus appear in, after He had received His glorified body?

The word form here does not mean a different body , it means in a different manner . How he appeared to the eye when she saw Him

This is from Gill (a scholar that spoke all Biblical languages.)

Verse 12. After that,.... A little time, or some few hours after, on the selfsame day; see Luke 24:13; he appeared in another form: it seems to have been the form, or habit of a gardener that he appeared in to Mary; since she thought him to be one, and to be the gardener that belonged to the garden, in which the sepulchre was: but now it was in another form, or habit, that he appeared; very likely in the habit of a Scribe, or doctor; since he took upon him to expound the Scriptures to the persons he appeared to; as also took bread, and blessed it, when at supper with them, Luke 24:27. According to the Jewish canons {m} "if two persons eat together, and one of them is a Scribe, and the other an unlearned man, Krbm rpwo, "the Scribe blesses," and the unlearned man is excused." This is not to be understood of any change in the shape of his body, or the features of his face; for as soon as their eyes were opened, which had been before held, they knew him perfectly well: whereas, if there had been such an alteration made in him, that he could not have been known for the same, there would have been no need of holding their eyes, that they should not know him, Luke 24:16.

This appearance was unto two of them; one of them was Cleophas, or Alphaeus, which is the same, Luke 24:18; the other is by some {n} thought to be Simon Peter, from what is said in Luke 24:34 though others {o} think it was Nathanael, and others {p} Luke the evangelist, who conceals his own name, when he mentions the other; and some {q} that his name was Ammaon, which perhaps may be through mistake of the place, Emmaus, where they were going, for the name of one of them, and the appearance to them was, as they walked, and went into the country: to a country village called Emmaus, about sixty furlongs, or seven miles and a half from Jerusalem; see Luke 24:13.

{m} T. Bab. Beracot, fol. 45. 2. {n} Lightfoot, Hor. in. v. 13. & in Luk. xxiv. 13. {o} Epiphan contra Haeres. l. 1. Haeres. 23. {p} Vid. Theophylact. in Luc. xxiv. 13. {q} Ambros in Luc. 12. 49. & 24.

From Matthew Henry

II. He appeared to two of the disciples, as they went into the country, v. 12. This refers, no doubt, to that which is largely related (Lu. 24:13, etc.), of which passed between Christ and the two disciples going to Emmaus. He is here said to have appeared to them in another form, in another dress than what he usually wore, in the form of a traveller, as, in the garden, in such a dress, that Mary Magdalene took him for the gardener; but that he had really his own countenance, appears by this, that their eyes were holden, that they should not know him; and when that restrain on their eyes was taken off, immediately they knew him, Lu. 24:16-31. Now,

1. These two witnesses gave in their testimony to this proof of Christ's resurrection; They went and told it to the residue, v. 13. Being satisfied themselves, they were desirous to give their brethren the satisfaction they had, that they might be comforted as they were

Now your turn explain to me why Jesus would lie?

Luk 24:39   Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

     He used one form here In John, one when he passed through the walls where the believers were gathered, and he used another form when Thomas inspected His wounds, and one when He warned Marry Magdalene not to touch Him, and several other times many did not recognize Him.

Our glorified body will be a new creation , It will not be the body or type of body we have now. Like jesus we may walk through walls and kiss a friend and eat a meal

But it will be physical made new and different , but still of substance .

Remember the reaction of Thomas when He had touched Jesus ? He said " My Lord and my God"

it was the physical appearance of his murdered Rabbi that made him fall to his knees. That resurrection is proof that the sacrifice was accepted .

Will our body only have one state, or many as Jesus did?

Jesus only had one state a glorified one .

65,241 posted on 08/17/2003 10:14:11 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: JHavard; DouglasKC; RnMomof7
Will our body only have one state, or many as Jesus did?

As I understand it, we will have bodies like unto His own Glorious body. By reading what he did after His resurrection in His appearances to those whom He appeared to, we can get an idea of what our new bodies will be able to do. Walking through walls implies that physical limitations of mass and solidity no longer apply. It would seem reasonable to postulate that distance will no longer be a limitation. We will be able to eat, drink, touch, be touched, and have all of the senses we now enjoy, but also abilities we do not now have. Possibly even being able to change or alter our appearance, as Jesus did. The body itself will be flesh and bone, as is Jesus' Glorified body, but it is glorified incorruptible flesh and bone, and capable of manifestation in and traversing through both the physical and the spiritual worlds.

65,246 posted on 08/17/2003 10:46:30 PM PDT by nobdysfool (Let God be true, and every man a liar...)
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