The Neverending Story (The Christian Chronicles)

Associated Press ^ | 3/24/01

[malakhi]

The Neverending Story
An ongoing debate on Scripture, Tradition, History and Interpretation.

Statesmen may plan and speculate for liberty, but it is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue. - John Adams

Previous Thread

[SoothingDave]

I'm sure Quester means he's not looking for Jesus appearing until the 2nd Coming.

Yes, that was understood. The Scripture he quoted made it clear that the Second Coming will be something that is absolutely indisputable.

SD

[malakhi]

That would be an unethical conflict of interest.

As opposed to the other, ethical conflicts of interest? ;o)

[malakhi]

Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, right?

Yep!

[SoothingDave]

No Dave, you inserted the all.

You are being ridiculous.

Just say, "Dave, you were right."

Now, I have had several others here acknowledge that insurance is indeed gambling with money. So Doug needs to change his definition.

So what?

So what? You called me a liar for repeating Doug's definition, that's what. As soon as you apologize, I will let it drop.

Life is a gamble. Every minute of every day you are gambling with your life and health. Why do you continue insisting on your narrow definition.

All I am inisting upon is that I was correct when I repeated Doug's definition. He said that gambling with money was wrong. I repeated it. He said he never said it, and you said I was spinning to make stuff up.

In fact, he did say that, and I just repeated it. You both called me a liar, and I deserve an apology.

SD

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

What about Wal-Mart, or McDonalds, if their stock tanks, its over and we all can go rabbit hunting and growing gardens to eat.

Come on Dave, we can start out with no risk I bonds if ya want and work up.

BigMack

[SoothingDave]

See what you are doing, Reggie? You are making Malakhi defend me again. Maybe I "got" to him?

SD

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

Chicken!

BigMack

[SoothingDave]

What about Wal-Mart, or McDonalds, if their stock tanks, its over and we all can go rabbit hunting and growing gardens to eat.

McDonald's lost money last quarter for the first time in decades.

You are missing the point. I had to have my garage repaired and my money is going to pay for that right now.

SD

[Quester]

I'm not gonna go back and dig out Douglas's original post. But the statement above, attributed to Doug, is not qualified in any way. In the absence of any exceptions, I have to assume that he means "gambling for money is a sin" period.

In which case it all hinges on Doug's definition of gambling (i.e. does Doug consider insurance to be gambling).

[Invincibly Ignorant]

Wow. Doug sure is getting alot of publicity. :-)

[Invincibly Ignorant]

I might be interested. You gotta show me how to do it though. :-)

[SoothingDave]

In which case it all hinges on Doug's definition of gambling (i.e. does Doug consider insurance to be gambling).

For Doug it does. But for me to use his definition and to be called a liar for repeating his own definition is simply wrong.

We can interpret the facts differently, and I acknowledge that we do. But if I see the facts one way and use his definition, then I should not be said to be making up his definition.

SD

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

What they didn't make 10 billion, they just made 8 billion LOL

What about the savings you would have if you re-did you're insurance plans? Thats not earmarked for anything, it would be a good chance for you to start to free yourself from the ratrace.

BigMack

[malakhi]

See what you are doing, Reggie? You are making Malakhi defend me again.

Now I need a shower. ;o)

And at one shower a week, that $.15 saved up and invested will be $1,487.24 after 30 years. ;o)

[OLD REGGIE]

I'm not gonna go back and dig out Douglas's original post. But the statement above, attributed to Doug, is not qualified in any way. In the absence of any exceptions, I have to assume that he means "gambling for money is a sin" period.

And I agree with you that Doug feels this way. It was only when Dave rang in the life insurance angle that Doug modified what he meant. If Dave continues to include life insurance in the definition of gambling and Doug exempts it, his original definition has been modified. That is, Doug has a different definition of gambling than the one Dave is forcing on him.

BTW "I think there's no question that all gambling for money is a sin."

The "all" was added by Dave.

[malakhi]

Not to worry about Wallyworld tanking. As the largest retail outlet for goods produced by slave labor in Red China there are too many interested parties who will not let that happen, barring worldwide or continental catastrophy.

Where do you shop that doesn't carry large amounts of Chinese goods?

[OLD REGGIE]

You both called me a liar.

Not once in the last few days have I called you a liar.

Now, for the first time, I am saying you are lying.

[SoothingDave]

What they didn't make 10 billion, they just made 8 billion LOL

No, they reported a loss. Negative profit.

What about the savings you would have if you re-did you're insurance plans? Thats not earmarked for anything, it would be a good chance for you to start to free yourself from the ratrace.

Maybe. Where do i find out what I really need?

SD