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The Neverending Story (The Christian Chronicles)
Associated Press ^ | 3/24/01

Posted on 03/30/2002 7:53:37 PM PST by malakhi

The Neverending Story
An ongoing debate on Scripture, Tradition, History and Interpretation.


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To: newgeezer; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
In the event of rapture, I get his Harley.

Of course, you're hoping it's parked when that happens. :-)

LOL, I hadn't considered that possibility. Hey Mack, if you notice a feeling of lightness, as if you are being drawn upward, can you pull over to the side of the road before letting go of the handlebars? :o)

50,241 posted on 04/29/2003 9:30:14 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: CindyDawg
Well, I think we plan on taking you with us though :')

I think I've been told that if I'm going to be one of the 144,000, I've got to go through the tribulation first. But I may be wrong on the details.

50,242 posted on 04/29/2003 9:32:04 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: JHavard
malakhi, I suppose you've mentioned it to your wife, mind telling us how you explained it to her, if you did??

That's one I haven't brought up. I've talked about things like OSAS, but not the rapture.

50,243 posted on 04/29/2003 9:33:11 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: Invincibly Ignorant
You have your notion of second death; I have mind. Private interpretation and all that.
50,244 posted on 04/29/2003 9:48:27 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: RobbyS
You have your notion of second death; I have mind.

What a clever slip. Second death is described as such because the spirit is absent from God - ie in hell, not in heaven. The spirir goes on either way else "eternal" damnation wouldn't sound so bad. 1st death - the body dies. unless the body dies, resurrection would be pointless. So physical death is the 1sr death. The second death results from dying with sin in one's life - in which case one goes eternally to hell. The 1st death and 2nd death cannot be confused one for another. Though you attempt to blur the line thinking that you cleverly avoid the consequence of certain scriptures. The term for that can be one of many: deluson, foolishness, vanity, self deception... Whomever you think you're kidding, it won't float with Him who authored the message - that would be God, btw. They are His precepts after all- not ours that we may pick as we please. This is the difference again between being a Christian and being a student of philosophy - Catholic or otherwise. Hmm.. personal interpretatioin - so now you're a Robbyist, eh. (couldn't help it) Has anyone told the Pope you decided for PI, though, instead of believing what he tells you. You could just give it up and follow scripture. If you're so picked on, you might as well get the benifits.

50,245 posted on 04/29/2003 10:39:19 PM PDT by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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To: Havoc
#48877 I said: I don't see that by "second death" is meant more than eternal punishment.

So what are you talking about?

50,246 posted on 04/29/2003 10:58:04 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: Havoc
And where do heretics go? Wherever he put Mohammed.
50,247 posted on 04/29/2003 11:00:24 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: CindyDawg
Mary certainly can't much feel at home in a Baptist Church since she is ignored except at Christmas.
50,248 posted on 04/29/2003 11:02:09 PM PDT by RobbyS
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To: RobbyS
You've forgotten your attempted dodge of Ecclesiastes so soon? Sheesh - like watching a 1 year old that thinks no one can see him because he covered his eyes.
50,249 posted on 04/30/2003 4:12:37 AM PDT by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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To: RobbyS
And where do heretics go?

Depends on who defines the term. Many good heretics are no doubt sitting in heaven imagining how their short torture and burning got them their while the guys from old Rome that did it to them are suffering a slightly longer version of the same thing - uhem, eternally. It's all in the definition.

50,250 posted on 04/30/2003 4:18:10 AM PDT by Havoc (If you can't be frank all the time are you lying the rest of the time?)
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To: malakhi; newgeezer
Lately, I wish we could play the Brewers every day. :-) It could be worse, I suppose. I could live in Detroit.

ooohh...low blow. Talk about kicking a team when it's down. :-)

50,251 posted on 04/30/2003 5:09:29 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: SoothingDave; RobbyS; al_c; IMRight; tHe AnTiLiB; JHavard; newgeezer; Invincibly Ignorant; ...
Mary is the mother of all the faithful.

Eve's title is scriptural, Mary's is anti-scriptural due to:

Gal 4:26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.

Unless you think the church has 2 mothers, one scriptural and one Catholic.

50,252 posted on 04/30/2003 6:14:12 AM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrissssstian)
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To: RobbyS
Mary certainly can't much feel at home in a Baptist Church since she is ignored except at Christmas

. She is not ignored or adored. She was blessed and we respect her for what she did.

50,253 posted on 04/30/2003 6:15:01 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: newgeezer
LOL
50,254 posted on 04/30/2003 6:21:33 AM PDT by ventana
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To: malakhi
LOL!
50,255 posted on 04/30/2003 6:23:19 AM PDT by ventana
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To: RobbyS
Mary certainly can't much feel at home in a Baptist Church since she is ignored except at Christmas.

Mary isn't ignored in Protestant churches. She's part of the fellowship just like all the others ... Moses, Abraham, Esther, Miriam, Ruth, Cathy, Mike, etc. She fits in with all the rest of us.

It's much easier for her now. Her course is finished ... she has borne her cross. She has rest from her labours. She is blessed to be among us and she is a blessing to us all.

50,256 posted on 04/30/2003 6:28:26 AM PDT by Quester
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To: Quester
Mary certainly can't much feel at home in a Baptist Church since she is ignored except at Christmas.

She is no more ignored than anyone else in the bible with that little ink.

50,257 posted on 04/30/2003 6:31:21 AM PDT by biblewonk (Spose to be a Chrissssstian)
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To: Quester; RobbyS
Also when Mary attends a Baptist Church she isn't overwhelmed by people handing her sticky notes to pass on to Jesus.

She is free to WORSHIP JESUS with the other saints!
50,258 posted on 04/30/2003 6:33:44 AM PDT by drstevej
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To: malakhi
Checking in to see who got #50000?

Yep. I was online anyway and just decided to pop in and see who spammed the most at the right time.

50,259 posted on 04/30/2003 6:39:38 AM PDT by al_c
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To: biblewonk
Hmmm. Adam "fathered" a family in sin (us) and Abraham was the father of many nations (including us) and Christ fathered a family in righteousness (us) without removing "Father" from God the Father's title.

But the church only has one mother.

Got it.

50,260 posted on 04/30/2003 6:40:24 AM PDT by IMRight
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