Ad-Hoc Religion Forum Committee Discussion - Thread 3

3/27/02 | angelo

[malakhi]

I've reviewed the critiques and suggestions from Thread 2, have incorporated those I could, and have come up with the following Topic list. One point that was questioned by a number of people were the names of the Denominational Topics categories. I have tried to stay with names that are in common use, and/or are preferred by members of those groups. If you suggested a change here and I did not put it in place, that is probably why.

What I would like to do is to have all interested parties vote a straight up or down on the topics as they stand. If over half of the voters oppose the present list, then we'll reopen it for further changes. If the majority is in favor of the present list, then this is what we'll go with. Keep in mind that additions to the list are always possible down the road.

I will be offline from sunset tonight until Saturday night for the first two days of Passover and then for Shabbat. That will give everyone a chance to weigh in and vote. I'll tally the votes Saturday night, and let Jim Robinson know the results.

Thanks for your participation and the many great suggestions!

General Topics
Activism	Opportunities to make your voice heard.
Apologetics	Defense of doctrine.
Current Events	Religion or religion-related news of the day.
Ecumenism	Pertaining to discussion, cooperation and understanding among denominations.
History	History of religion, religion and secular history, tradition, sacred texts.
Humor	If at first you don't succeed, don't skydive.
Ministry/Outreach	Pastoral issues, proselytization, missions.
Moral Issues	Abortion, divorce, sexuality, social justice, ethics.
Prayer	Requests for prayer, articles about prayer, spirituality.
Religion & Culture	Religious critique of secular culture, influence of religion on culture.
Religion & Politics	Church/state issues, legislation, court cases, 1st amendment, the political process.
Religion & Science	Creation, evolution, ethical issues posed by scientific advances.
Theology	Nature of God and religious truth, rational inquiry into religious questions.
Worship	Methods of worship, liturgy, communal prayer.

Denominational Topics	This is not intended to be a complete list, but rather to indicate broad categories.
Catholic	Latin rite, Eastern rites.
Charismatic Christian	Assemblies of God, pentacostalism, charismatic movement.
Eastern Religions	Hinduism, Sikhism, Buddhism, Taoism.
Evangelical Christian	Baptist, sola scriptura, non-denominational, independent fundamentalist Bible believers.
Islam	Sunni, Shiite, Sufism, Wahhabism.
Judaism	Orthodox, Conservative, Reform, Reconstructionist, Karaite.
Mainline Protestant	Anglican, Episcopalian, Lutheran, Methodist, Presbyterian, Unitarian, UCC.
Orthodox Christian	Greek, Russian, Armenian, Antiochian etc.
Other Christian	7th Day Adventist, Churches of God, Messianic Christians, LDS, etc.
Other non-Christian	Baha'i, Zoroastrianism, animism, Wicca, etc.
Skeptics/Seekers	Agnosticism, atheism, secular humanism, etc.

[White Mountain]

Your #113: I ask again if they call themselves Jews will that make them Jews

Free Republic does not care. It has nothing to do with what topics we should have in this forum. See my #118.

[White Mountain]

Your #119-120:

Excellent! Thanks!

[White Mountain]

Your #116:

The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are One, Terry.

The Bible is the Word of God. The manuscripts need to be copied correctly and translated correctly.

We are Saints, and we are Christians, regardless of what others call us.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

We are Saints, and we are Christians...

In that order, heh?

[israelite98]

In that order, heh?

Rom 8:29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the first-born among many brethren.

Rom 8:29 Those He foreknew he had predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son...

[RnMomof7]

There are many gods, Mormon Doctrine, p. 163.

There is a mother god, Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 443.

The book of Mormon is more correct than the Bible, History of the Church, 4:461.

God the Father had a Father, Joseph Smith, History of the Church, vol. 6, p. 476; Heber C. Kimball, Journal of Discourses, vol. 5, p. 19; Milton Hunter, First Council of the Seventy, Gospel through the Ages, p. 104-105.

God resides near a star called Kolob, Pearl of Great Price, pages 34-35; Mormon Doctrine,

This is not Christian doctrine WM...and you know it...you attempt to use Christian language to mislead..but you know..the Trinity was a meeting of gods.

[White Mountain]

Your #115: your slur boils down to this

No slurs from me, OPie. Your logic is faulty. Are you projecting?

We are Biblical.

[RnMomof7]

israelite98

member since March 27th, 2002

Intresting Welcome to the new LDS!

[RnMomof7]

We are Biblical.

No Christian here would agree with your doctrine that Jesus and Lucifer were spirit brothers WM...

The first spirit to be born in heaven was Jesus, Mormon Doctrine, page 129. .
The Devil was born as a spirit after Jesus "in the morning of pre-existence," Mormon Doctrine, page 192.

[israelite98]

Rom 16:16 Greet one another with a holy kiss. All the churches of Christ greet you.

[RnMomof7]

. All the churches of Christ greet you.
Which christ..the brother of lucifer or the second Person of the triune God...eternal God..The one and only God
We do not worship the same Christ

[israelite98]

the second Person of the triune God...eternal God..The one and only God

Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Joh 1:2 He was in the beginning with God; Joh 1:3 all things were made through him, and without him was not anything made that was made.
Joh 1:4 In him was life, and the life was the light of men. Joh 1:5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

We do not worship the same Christ
??????????
1Co 4:3 But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged by you or by any human court. I do not even judge myself.

[RnMomof7]

Word was God. ...not lucifers big bro..born because the father and mother had sex

[israelite98]

not lucifers big bro..born because the father and mother had sex

???????/

Isa 14:4 you will take up this taunt against the king of Babylon: "How the oppressor has ceased, the insolent fury ceased!
Isa 14:5 The LORD has broken the staff of the wicked, the scepter of rulers, Isa 14:6 that smote the peoples in wrath with unceasing blows, that ruled the nations in anger with unrelenting persecution. Isa 14:7 The whole earth is at rest and quiet; they break forth into singing. Isa 14:8 The cypresses rejoice at you, the cedars of Lebanon, saying, 'Since you were laid low, no hewer comes up against us.' Isa 14:9 Sheol beneath is stirred up to meet you when you come, it rouses the shades to greet you, all who were leaders of the earth; it raises from their thrones all who were kings of the nations. Isa 14:10 All of them will speak and say to you: 'You too have become as weak as we! You have become like us!' Isa 14:11 Your pomp is brought down to Sheol, the sound of your harps; maggots are the bed beneath you, and worms are your covering.
Isa 14:12 "How you are fallen from heaven, O Day Star [Lucifer], son of Dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, you who laid the nations low!
Isa 14:13 You said in your heart, 'I will ascend to heaven; above the stars of God I will set my throne on high; I will sit on the mount of assembly in the far north;

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Welcome Newbie...but I think you're preaching to the choir.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Not.

[White Mountain]

Your #133:

I am shocked ... shocked ... that you Calvinists are once again trying to hijack a thread for your own purposes. We have gone over this stuff many times before -- and surely will do so again -- but not here. I will respond on the current Calvinist endless-discussion thread, and leave this one for the voting on angelo's list of topics for the new Religion Forum.

All your efforts to prove me wrong -- or whatever you all are trying to do -- have failed, and will fail. All you succeed in doing is giving everyone else a very unfavorable impression of yourselves. You don't like it? Read the paragraph above.

[ppaul]

What is a "Calvinist"?
Do you know?
Or are you just using it as a perjorative term?
Like some in the secular world use "puritan"?

[White Mountain]

Your #138: What is a "Calvinist"? Do you know?

Yes, I do. I have spent nearly two years among a group of aggressive ones. In the interest of brevity:

When I say "Calvinists", I refer to that group of FReepers.

When I say "Calvinism", I mean Calvinism as they present it here at FR.

There are other Calvinist FReepers that I have quite cordial discussions with from time to time. They have a very different disposition from the aggressive ones.

[ppaul]

You lost me, dude.