I am shocked ... shocked ... that you Calvinists are once again trying to hijack a thread for your own purposes. We have gone over this stuff many times before -- and surely will do so again -- but not here. I will respond on the current Calvinist endless-discussion thread, and leave this one for the voting on angelo's list of topics for the new Religion Forum.
All your efforts to prove me wrong -- or whatever you all are trying to do -- have failed, and will fail. All you succeed in doing is giving everyone else a very unfavorable impression of yourselves. You don't like it? Read the paragraph above.
So long as you disagree with these guys the least little bit, they will cultivate a false sense of superiority regarding themselves and a false sense of inferiority on your part.
They will try to get you to lose your temper, and then immediately attribute it to your depravity and inferiority, to hatred of the truth and hatred of God.
They will tell you that your conversion to Christ (they won't bother with you much unless you are already a faithful Christian) is almost surely spurious, that you are very likely going to hell forever because you don't believe the right thing.
But, should you decide to agree with their very negative notions of the nature of God and man, they will call you a true Christian, and consider you saved, and claim that God has just regenerated you, and guaranteed you a place in heaven -- that is, until your next disagreement with them. If they can't get you back in line, they will consider you never saved in the first place, and once again headed for hell.
Don't believe it? I've seen it happen, right here at FR, and I have made up my mind to do what I can to see that it does not happen again.
Scuse me... "Hijack the thread", you say?
(sigh)... How strange must the world look to you, through your hate-drunken eyes. It is you who hijacked the thread for your own sectarian purposes, White Mountain -- the bashing of Calvinists in your #107, and thereafter. Calvinists have only responded to your bitterness-drenched slanders; we have reacted against your scurrilous attempts to hijack the thread for the purpose of bashing Calvinists, but are innocent of the charge you press, while you are guilty thereof.