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A leaked small group training video from North Point Community Church shows a church ministry director instructing small group leaders to use affirming language with transgender tweens and teens, advising them to use their new names and personal pronouns because if everyone else in that child’s life is affirming them, “we cannot be the last place a (trans) student feels comfortable.” Note. The full 20 minute training video is available only to to patrons at our Media Content Page for Insiders. To sign up for our patreon, which also gives you an ad-free browsing experience, exclusive podcasts, and behind the scenes content, click here.
Britt Kitchen is the multi-campus director for Transit. In this environment, middle school students (6th–8th grades) “gather to explore their relationship with Christ and others” through the use of “games, music, teaching, and guided small group discussion.”
We were recently sent several of Transit’s training videos, including their 2025 LGBTQ Leader Training featuring Kitchen speaking to small group leaders establishing policies and best practices for LGBTQ kids between the ages of 11 and 14.
Notably, North Point Community Church, under the approving eye of lead pastor Andy Stanley, has been embroiled in a series of related scandals for years, with pastors and ministry leaders routinely promoting and promoting gay-affirming LGBTQ ministries and ideologies.
A few examples include:
Debbie Causey is a long-tenured North Point Community Church pastor and the director of their Care network of ministries. Years ago, after her son came out as gay, she wrote the book The Big Reveal: Loving Your LGBTQ+ Child While Strengthening Your Faith, which details her experiences handling her son’s revelations. Prominent gay activist Justin Lee wrote the forward of her book, and she has his endorsement on her website.
Causey speaks at pro-LGBTQ+ events such as Q Christian Fellowships and has been one of the primary drivers of LGBTQ acceptance in the church. In fact, she and other leaders at North Point are board members of a pro-LGBTQ+ activist and advocacy group called Renovus, which seeks to promote and reinforce LGBTQ-Christianity as fully integrable into the body of Christ.
The Care Network has nine ministries under it, including financial mentorship, divorce recovery, premarital mentorship, crisis response, and especially, Parent Connect.
Where did Parent Connect come from? Amy Blakeslee, the recently departed Director of Parent Connect, explains the origins in her Q Conference bio.
Hello! My name is Amy. I identify as gay, my pronouns are she/her, and I’m the proud parent of three adult kids, one of whom also identifies as gay. Over the past ten years I had the privilege of meeting with hundreds of parents of LGBTQ+ children through my position on the Care staff at North Point Community Church. As more and more parents reached out to the church for support, I began meeting with them in their homes. Parent Connect was birthed, one of the first church-based ministries in the nation created specifically for Christian parents of LGBTQ+ kids.
Parent Connect exists to “inspire parents of LGBTQ+ children to follow Jesus by providing a safe environment where they can experience community and personal growth.” This is done through a series of meetings, get-togethers, mentorship, and curriculum studies with parents and their gay or trans kids. Recently, they had Queer Eye for the Straight Guy icon Mama Tammye in as a guest speaker and teacher.
As part of Parent Connect, North Point Church frequently partners with Embracing the Journey ministry, making it an integral part of her curriculum. According to Causey, they refer all out-of-state inquiries to them, and it has their unreserved support.
Embracing the Journey ministry is run by Greg and Lynn McDonald. They are a husband and wife team who are both long-term members at North Point, as well as leaders in Parent Connect. The church recommends it as a trusted resource for congregants wishing to find answers and advice when their child comes out as LBGTQ+, along with navigating the emotional and spiritual complexities that the news brings.
While Embracing the Journey is unreservedly recommended by Parent Connect, many at North Point would be shocked to learn that it is an openly “affirming” pro-LBGTQ+ ministry and routinely partners with aggressive pro-LBGTQ activist organizations like The Reformation Project, which seek to advance full LGBTQ+ inclusion in the church.
Furthermore, all their resources are affirming, including books on why the church is wrong to condemn homosexuality, why the bible does not condemn homosexuality, and why queerness is a gift, not a sin. They teach children to love and accept themselves for who they are, because their sexual identity will never change. Like Debbie Causey, Greg McDonald was also previously a member of Renovus.
They’re the ones who hosted the recent Embracing the Journey conference two years ago, which featured nearly all gay-affirming speakers, including two gay men ‘married’ to other men, and which we covertly attended.
Furthermore in a conversation about her book, Causey was once asked about recommendations for a “safe” counselors for LGBTQ teens, which is a coded word they use to describe affirming counselors. She recommended an organization called ‘The Christian Closet,’ which she describes as a “great group” specifically designed for children and youth struggling with their identity, and McDonald agrees.
The Christian Closet is a collective of all-LGBTQ+ Christian counselors that offer virtual mental help on topics like depression, coming out, transitioning, starting your first queer relationship, deconstructing, dealing with trauma, and everything in between. It’s “an online therapeutic resource for people who are trying to work out what it means to have a LGBTQI sexual identity, or gender identity within a Christian context.”
This is not to say that some of the counselors are gay or that a majority are gay, but rather that all of them are gay.
Their website reads:
It’s a rare thing to find a therapist who personally understands the intersections of faith with sexual and gender identity. When most people find us they exclaim with relief “In finding TCC, I’ve found a needle-in-a-haystack.” When you choose a Christian Closet therapist, you don’t have to choose between someone who gets your faith or sexual orientation. That is why all of our clinicians identify somewhere on the LGBTQ+ spectrum and have done the work of reconciling their faith with that.
We’ve profiled one of the counselors here, who happens to be a pro-choice co-pastor of The Quest Church, and who recently married a man after being married to and divorcing his wife of 23 years.
What a horrific place to send a confused child struggling with their sexuality.
Lastly, we’ve also covered compromise by North Point Community Church in our article Celebrating Transgenderism?! North Point Church Staffers Rejoice After Man Comes Out as Woman, where after a young man from the church came out as a “transgender woman,” the post was liked by nearly a dozen North Point church leaders, including by whoever is running the church’s Instagram page.
We also noted the downgrade in our post North Point Church Baptizes Openly Transgender’ Man’, After Giving Blessing to Transition“, which details the church’s efforts to baptize and affirm a transgender man, and in our posts:
Gay-Affirming North Point Church Leader Cheers As She’s Given Lap Dance by Drag Queen
Andy Stanley Tells ‘Unconditional Conference’ Attendees That Scriptures Against Homosexuality Were About ‘Serial Sexual Relationships’
Andy Stanley Tells ‘Unconditional Conference’ Attendees He REFUSES to Say ‘Homosexuality is a Sin’
With that established, we see a training video featuring Kitchen discussing “how to best care for all of your students, including students who would identify as LGBTQ+” and “create a safe place for your group to talk about anything, including sexual integrity.”
On the topic of sexual integrity for both straight and LGBTQ teens, Kitchen says there are “just three big ideas under the umbrella of sexual integrity we want to communicate consistently.” These are:
Honor God with your body.
Don’t be mastered by anything.
Don’t sexualize a relationship outside of marriage.
If the students can abide by these, they’ll be ok, with Kitchen offering:
We’re just going to start challenging students, ‘hey, when it comes to the area of sexual integrity, when it comes to these guidelines, can you live with integrity on these three guidelines just for the next year?’…That seems to be much more helpful goal for our students.
Given these parameters, two gay teens at North Point Church could date each other and still abide by their conditions for godly relationships. Kitchen later notes:
If our goal is that our student ministry should be the safest place to talk about anything, we have to ask, are we really okay with the idea that every student is welcome at our church? Are we really sure that you want every student feeling comfortable coming to our church? And we’ve decided here at this church that yes, we are comfortable with that. That we do want to be the safest place for every student to talk about anything.
One of the rules they have for interacting with LGBTQ teens is not to label a student, such as reinforcing the idea that they’re gay. Instead, they instruct leaders to use the language of “same-sex attracted” because the student’s gender might be fluid, and they don’t want to reinforce the students with language that suggests permanency if things change down the road.
While that may sound reasonable, the remainder of the video is not. Speaking of kids between the ages of 11-14 experiencing gender dysphoria, Kitchen offers, “Our goal in these situations is to best support the student and the family” and that “Our goal is to first understand where a student is in their journey.”
Supporting them involves affirming them in their dysphoria, with Kitchen condemning a church that did not.
Now, through the years, we’ve gotten to know several families. There’s one family in particular that’s very helpful for me. Their journey first started when their student was five years old. So it was before any of the middle school hormones of what’s going on could even take place.
And these parents handled it so well and took every step so slowly. This family first started going to a child psychologist and seeing a medical specialist. There were times they started using different pronouns at home, but only at home. They were not using these pronouns in school. They weren’t even asking an extended family to use those pronouns yet. They weren’t asking friends to do it yet.
Then a big step was to pick a new name from the other gender so they could start using that. But once again, only the new name around the home.
And they can start wearing different clothing, first, just one day a week, once again, only at the home. The next big step was going to the extended family, the grandparents, the aunts, the uncles, the cousins to say, ‘hey, will you start using this name and these pronouns for our child?’
Now, somewhere along the way, medical intervention started for this student. If we’re talking about something in middle school, more than likely, medical injections are going to be about stopping puberty as opposed to having a surgery. That will probably come later in life. It would be just a matter of, ‘hey, let’s slow down or stop puberty from even starting for this child.’
Now at this point, the next big thing that’s gonna happen is them starting to ask the public to start using a different set of pronouns and a different name. They finally go to the school system, ask them to start using those different pronouns.
And what eventually happened was the school system, the family, the extended family, were all using different name and pronouns for this child, but their local church would not do it.
Their local church said, ‘nah, because we’ve known him since he was a little boy, we’re not gonna start saying “her”. So not here, not at our church. We’ve known you too long to be able to do that.’
And so everywhere this child went in life, they were saying you were one thing, but only at church, they had to pretend to be something else. And they had to leave that church, and they finally came here, started talking to our care ministry staff, and we realized, ‘oh my goodness, we cannot be the last place a student feels comfortable. That’s the opposite of our goal for church, is to be the last place you feel comfortable talking about anything.’
Andy Stanley learned NOTHING from his father.
The more stories that come out about Andy Stanley the more I wonder if he even attended church with his father.
Maybe his father was too busy to protect to protect his son during his development into a man?
It, unfortunately, seems quite common with children of prominent evangelists to wander far away from the Gospel.
Falwell and Stanley are two names that come to mind.
But Andy Stanley's drifting from sound doctrine is worse than any of those.
Reverend Robert Sallee James was a Baptist minister. His sons were Frank and Jesse James.
No matter how good the parent is the child must choose his own destiny.
Failure as a parent often comes from either too much legalism or too much grace.
Astounding how the advocates of gay ‘Christianity’ completely miss the point that we all have our sexual burdens to carry and to conquer. Most men want to sleep with multiple women, but they absolutely must not. Many women live quiet lives of fantasy that they must resist. It’s not just so-called gay Christians that must deny an overpowering temptation. We are not our sexual urges. So-called affirming ‘Christians’ are just weak Christians who don’t understand that denial of self is the point. Live lives of self-sacrifice. It’s not just gays who feel they are denying themselves. It’s all Christians. We will fall short. Repent, change, and if you fail again, repent again. Don’t lie about the Gospel.
Help! I Can't Believe I'm Sitting Next to a Heterosexual!
"I Can't Believe I'm Sitting Next to a Republican"
I’ll say it again
Charles Stanley should have never let Andy Stanley into a pulpit
Absolutely. We are told that pastors must be married and in good conduct before they can be pastors.
There was hardly a better teacher than Charles Stanley.
Then some girl I was friends with exclaimed one day: “I think his son Andy may be even better than him!”
Which made me think she had no idea what she was talking about and had actually no Biblical depth.
Men like Charles Stanley, Adrian Rogers, etc. are a thing of the past. They were always an extremely-rare breed the likes of which are fading fast.
My own pastor is well into his 90s. There is simply no one like him which is why I enjoy any time that we can go to lunch.
Thus Northpoint does not care about being a place the Holy Spirit, a faithful NT Christians feel comfortable.
As with some other proverbs (like "Seest thou a man diligent in his business? he shall stand before kings; he shall not stand before mean men" -Proverbs 22:29), "Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it" (Proverbs 22:6) is a overall truth, but "the way he should go" must be defined, while the matter is not settled until death.
The fact is that most great servants of God in the past had parents who overall train up a child in the way he should go, however, today children - usually just two at most due to contraception - are spoiled by parents, many of which are want to spare their offspring from experiencing many of the things which formed the good aspects of the parents character (not that I have arrived).
After overcoming adversity and affliction, the test most fail is affluence. The Greatest generation" examples that with its children.
Yeah, a “gift” that if it were bestowed on enough people, would cause the extinction of humanity. That’s all you need to know.
Correct me if I am wrong but NOWHERE in this article nor the link is it statedWHERE North Point Comm Church is
much lesd North Point
Is one supposed to guess?
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