Dark History of the Catholic church: Book 1

youtube ^ | April 19 2023 | Jim Green

[patriot torch]

Dark History of the Catholic Church: Book 1

This is part one of a two-part documentary that takes an up close and personal look at the dark and sometimes wicked history of the Roman Catholic Church!

This channel exists to Exalt the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, Expose false doctrines, modern-day cults, (Hebrew Israelites, Political, Personality), and the false teachers that spew them, engage in meaningful educational dialogue, promote the one and only true gospel of Gods grace and bring glory to the true and living God, and engage in biblical analysis!!

[ealgeone]

I would say pat has indeed read the biblical books.

The question is have you....in context??

From your post the obvious answer is NO.

Let's examine just the one from Mark you posted.

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16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned. Mk 16:16

Notice what changes in the second part of the sentence. The part about baptism.

However, the part on believing remains. If a person doesn't believe in Christ, and only Christ, then they can get baptized as many times as they want but they simply will not be saved.

And per the Bible, it is water baptism where the person is fully immersed. It is not sprinkling. That's yet another departure from Scripture Rome as made.

[ealgeone]

John 6

IF you're going to demand a literal interpretation of the passage then you'll have to answer these questions:

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35Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me will not hunger, and he who believes in Me will never thirst.

Do you get hungry or thirsty?

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37“All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out.

Do you believe in the eternal security of the believer based on this statement by Christ?

[wita]

...as does the Holy Bible.

Which begs the question, what’s your point?

Both books are in support of each other.

Some people can’t see the forest for all the trees.

[wita]

Absolutely no comparison.

after all, on the one hand Prophets of God, and on the other self proclaimed experts in theology. Now there’s a pair to draw to.

[Trump_Triumphant]

It was God’s will for the Temple to be destroyed. It happened because the Sacrifice of Christ did away with animal sacrifice, and as a punishment for rejecting Christ, and that’s in the New Testament. Further, the Roman legions of Titus Caesar have nothing to do with any. Church, Catholic or otherwise.

[Elsie]

 

MormonISM trumps that, because IT has the Fullness of the Gospel!!

 

...as does the Holy Bible.

 

 

SLC will NOT be glad to hear this, because the manta for nearly two centuries now has been the opposite.

 

 

 

 

President Russell M. Nelson once spoke about this. He said:

“This unique mortal mission of the Lord—the gospel as He defined it—we know as [His] Atonement. The fulness of the gospel, therefore, connotes a fuller comprehension of [His] Atonement. This we do not obtain from the Bible alone.”¹

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Notes
1. From “A Testimony of the Book of Mormon,” Oct. 1999 general conference.

 

 

 

The Everlasting Covenant: The Fulness of the Gospel, Lesson 25: Sections 66–68 (churchofjesuschrist.org)

[Elsie]

Both books are in support of each other.

Only in the World of MormonISM.

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KJV

Galatians 1:6-9

6. I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7. Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

 

ANYBODY???

Like this fine looking fellow???

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2 Corinthians 11:12-15

12. But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
13. For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

 

Like THESE guys??

 

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/pgp/js-h/1?lang=eng  verse 17

17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!

 

[Elsie]

after all, on the one hand Prophets of God, and on the other self proclaimed experts in theology. Now there’s a pair to draw to.

 

 

Are you sure you've replied to the right post here??

 

 

 

 

 

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D&C 49:18-19  18 And whoso forbiddeth to abstain from meats, that man should not eat the same, is not ordained of God; 19 For, behold, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and that which cometh of the earth, is ordained for the use of man for food and for raiment, and that he might have in abundance.

D&C 89:12-13  12 Yea, flesh also of beasts and of the fowls of the air, I, the Lord, have ordained for the use of man with thanksgiving; nevertheless they are to be used sparingly; 13 And it is pleasing unto me that they should not be used, only in times of winter, or of cold, or famine.

 

[wita]

The only evidence I can see in the two references (links) provided is you aren’t able to follow the suggestions to the logical conclusion. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever, and the Bible and Book of Mormon proclaim it for all willing to believe.

Now if we actually had some specific doctrinal specifics to show one does not support the other it might be sufficient for a conversation. Mere disbelief based on nothing more than man’s limited view of Godly truth points to the need for Prophets which Christianity in General rejects out of hand.

[wita]

You have a unique ability to inject foreign matter into what should be a simple discussion.

No Prophet, limited truth.

The Bible requires such for the voice of the Lord to be heard by man.

[Big Red Badger]

Nice personal INQUSTION!
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CHEERS!

[ealgeone]

The Catholic Church condemns worship of anyone but God and God alone: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

What Rome says and what they allow are two different things.

[Cronos]

Nope. One can say “what ealgeone says and what they allow are two different things” and it makes the same amount of (non)sense

[Cronos]

Firstly - it's not "me" who is demanding a literal interpretation of John 6.

The Pharisees considered that Jesus was giving a symbolic gesture - and He told them that it was literally eating of His flesh.

So it is Jesus demanding a literal interpretation

It was also the earliest Christians - like Justin Martyr, Ireneus etc. who learnt from the Apostles or the disciple of the Apostles and lived in the period from 70 AD to 150 AD who very categorically demand that this is to be a literal interpretation

Who were the ONLY ones in the 1st and 2nd centuries who said "Oh, the Eucharist is just a symbol"? - it was the gnostics, your spiritual fathers.

[Elsie]

The only evidence I can see in the two references (links) provided is you aren’t able to follow the suggestions to the logical conclusion.

There is no "suggestion" at all.

You just claimed the Bible contains the FULLNESS of the Gospel and I provided PROOF that a high ranking LDS official and years of teaching disagree with your claim.

[Elsie]

No Prophet, limited truth.

The Bible requires such for the voice of the Lord to be heard by man.

REALLY?

Chapter and verse please.

[Elsie]

He told them that it was literally eating of His flesh.

Sure HE did.

And HE told them they were SNAKES and White-washed tombs, too!

[Elsie]

So many things in John 6 mean a LOT to Catholics - other things get dismissed...

28 Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

[Elsie]

So many things in John 6 mean a LOT to Catholics - other things get dismissed...

53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you.

63 The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing.

[ealgeone]

As I figured. Roman Catholics run from my two questions when this issue comes up. Your hermeneutics are abysmal.