Posted on 04/14/2024 10:35:06 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
The individuals listed below are Christians (past and present) who are passionate about their faith. Some are recognized pastors, scholars and teachers of Bible prophecy and eschatology (study of end-times) who also belong to various denominations. Also listed here are those from pseudo-Christian organizations (so-called Christian groups that adhere to doctrines outside mainstream Christianity). This comprehensive list of individuals is meant to help you identify sound teaching on Bible prophecy and prophecy topics only. Some have devoted their entire lives to teaching Bible prophecy. Not all are always in agreement, and not all are sound in their doctrines. Therefore, study for yourselves, and use this as a guide only.
You will find the terms pre-tribulation, pre-millennial, post-tribulation and preterist used here. They are simply this:
The pre-tribulation and pre-millennial views are the most widely held in Bible prophecy. The pre-tribulation view is referring to the rapture (removal) of the Church prior to the start of the tribulation period. The tribulation period lasts 7 years, ending with the Second Coming. Pre-millennial is defined as Jesus Christ returning (Second Coming) before his millennial kingdom (1,000 year reign) ensues on earth.
Those views are the most literal approach to Bible prophecy, and are sometimes called the futurist view, which claims there will be a literal future 7-year tribulation period followed by a literal 1000-year reign of Jesus Christ on earth. As well, the rapture of the Church will precede the tribulation period, and is a separate event from the Second Coming of Jesus Christ at the end of the tribulation period. Additionally, the Church and Israel have distinct and unique roles in the end-times, thus the events described in the book of Revelation are still to come. Such views of are often attacked by liberal denominations and various cults.
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Joel Richardson is pretty strong on the topic of USA not being Babylon. Having said that, I’m not all in on his location of the final showdown...Michael Heiser, RIP, makes more sense to me regarding the battle is over Jerusalem. Glad none of this makes a difference in the end and we can all have a friendly believer debate over it. 😊
——>Futurism is on the table as long as there are prophecies left to be fulfilled.
When should a flat out lie (Futurism) ever be on the table at all, especially when it’s fabricated by the Antichrist power?
John Haller makes a joke about the 30 minutes of silence in Revelation 8 as a time for all of us who got it wrong to “auto-correct” our stances and turn in our homework before the final test 😉.
And let’s face it - all of us will get something wrong.
Both Joel R. & Michael H. are treasures - we may disagree with them on some things but we should all agree that Only Faith in Jesus Alone Saves. That is the heart of Christianity.
Can’t wait to see all of my brothers & sisters from millennia past & present at the Marriage Supper of the Lamb!
I’m guessing there’s at least 13 Billion of us.
Maranatha!
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I believe there are two generic Babylons described in Revelation as one in the same. They are economic and political.
Other than with Preterism virtually every eschatological take has some element of futurism.
I have been having the same thoughts. Also, I wonder if we’re not the nation spoken about in Jeremiah Chapters 50,51 and Isiah Chapter 18.
When I first came to Christ while on deployment, the book of Daniel and Revelations stood out the most. And when reading the Bible for the first time I took the reference to Babylon to be America as the description did seem to represent this nation. And now, witnessing what has transpired the last few years, our nation does seem to fit the description. Our nation is waxing worse by the day as if our hard-hearted leaders are asking for the wrath of GOD’s judgement.
——>Other than with Preterism virtually every eschatological take has some element of futurism.
Other than waiting for the FUTURE return of Christ, no.
Futurism takes events that have already happened, says they didn’t, and places them as waiting to happen just before the return of Christ. Futurism says no biblical prophecy has happened in over 2000 years. Yep, all just waiting for the last 7 years.
The correct interpretation for biblical prophecy is Historicism.
Historicism has plenty of prophetic events left to take place in the future.
But it’s not “FUTURISM”
If it believes in prophecies to be fulfilled in the future why wouldn’t it be?
Because the whole point behind FUTURISM is to deceive. None of it is true. It was designed to hide the true identity of the Antichrist power. Prophecy is not “Futurism”. Yes, there are yet prophetic things to happen, but they have absolutely nothing to do with “Futurism”. In the future is not “Futurism”. Bible prophecy follows the Historicist model.
https://www.whitehorsemedia.com/docs/romanism_and_the_reformation.pdf
First, note the fact that Rome’s reply to the Reformation in the 16th century included an answer to the prophetic teachings of the Reformers. Through the Jesuits Ribera and Bellarmine, Rome put forth her futurist interpretation of prophecy. Ribera was a Jesuit priest of Salamanca. In 1585 he published a commentary on the Apocalypse, denying the application of the prophecies concerning antichrist to the existing Church of Rome. He was followed by Cardinal Bellarmine, a nephew of Pope Marcellus II, who was born in Tuscany in 1542, and died in Rome in 1621. Bellarmine was not only a man of great learning, but “the most powerful controversialist in defense of Popery that the Roman Church ever produced.”
Clement VIII used these remarkable words on his nomination: “We choose him, because the Church of God does not possess his equal in learning.” Bellarmine, like Ribera, advocated the futurist interpretation of prophecy. He taught that antichrist would be one particular man, that he would be a Jew, that he would be preceded by the reappearance of the literal Enoch and Elias, that he would rebuild the Jewish temple at Jerusalem, compel circumcision, abolish the Christian sacraments, abolish every other form of religion, would manifestly and avowedly deny Christ, would assume to be Christ, and would be received by the Jews as their Messiah, would pretend to be God, would make a literal image speak, would feign himself dead and rise again, and would conquer the whole world ù Christian, Mohammedan, and heathen; and all this in the space of three and a half years. He insisted that the prophecies of Daniel, Paul and John, with reference to the antichrist, had no application whatever to the Papal power.
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