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What About The Sabbath
The Reason For My Faith ^ | 3/3/24 | Chuck Ness

Posted on 03/03/2024 3:31:37 PM PST by OneVike

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Throughout His ministry, Jesus never once broke the fourth commandment which required that all Jews observe the Sabbath. He was after all Jew. However, He did give us a clue that a change to the Sabbath was coming. To make my point, you must first understand that the original manuscripts of the Scriptures were not divided into verses and chapters.

The Old Testament manuscripts were written by scribes for the religious leaders to study. The New Testament manuscripts were letters originally written to be dispersed amongst the believers to read. They were like the letters you receive today. Just a document written in sentences and paragraphs with no verse or chapter numbers.

So you really had to know the transcripts well in order find any information you needed. Finally in the mid 16th century a Frenchman named, Robert Estienne (better known as Robertus Stephanus), would divide the Scriptures into chapters and verses. So today we can find passages by memorizing chapters and verses.

Now I must say, that while I do believe every Word of the Bible is the inspired Word of God, I do not believe that Stephanus's choices of where he decided to split some sentences up into different verses or chapters were inspired. I say so, because there are many instances in the Scriptures where a reader can be distracted or even misled as to what the passage is conveying.

Case in point is chapters 11 and 12 of Matthew's Gospel. I personally believe that he made a mistake by ending Matthew chapter 11 at verse 30. It's my belief that chapter 11 should have had 8 more verses for a total of 38. Thus it would end after the following statement by Jesus,

“For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”
(Matthew 12:8)

The following information is quite valuable in the apologetical debate on why so many are mistaken in their belief that Christians should observe Saturday as the Sabbath. Continuing on Jesus' statement in Matthew 12:8, I take you back to the end of Matthew chapter 11. Jesus had just finished telling the crowd that no one born of a woman is greater than John the Baptist, when He started telling everyone to come to Him for rest.

“Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”
(Matthew 11:28-30)

By speaking about the concept of rest, the audience He is speaking to would automatically think of the Sabbath rest which God gave them. They were first told about this gift when Moses presented the Ten Commandments God handed to Him for the people to follow. As Moses read the tablets, he said,

Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it."
(Exodus 20:8-11)

By the time Jesus started His ministry, the Israelites had been observing the Sabbath for almost 1480 years. They understood that it was a day of rest, even for the animals. A day they were to be free from the labors of life that kept them from communing with God. So, when Jesus starts talking about rest at the end of chapter 11, he continues his thought process on through to verse 8 of chapter 12. So when He calls them to come to Him for rest, and then claims He is the Lord of the Sabbath, it goes without saying that this is all one thought process and thus chapter 11 should have ended at verse 38, with chapter 12 actually beginning at verse 9 where Matthew wrote,

Now when He had departed from there, He went into their synagogue.
(Matthew 12:9)

The next 20 verses do continue the matter of a rest, but not until Jesus moved to another site. Thus it then makes sense to split the chapter after Jesus made His statement about Him being the Lord of the Sabbath, and after he had arrived at a different location.

This is important, because when Jesus died on the cross, He fulfilled all the requirements of the Law, including the one that calls for us to obey the Sabbath, since as He stated, He is our Sabbath. Just as we are not bound by going through a High Priest by offering a sacrifice, we too do not need to follow the Jewish Law. We can reach God through Christ, on any day at anytime we so desire. Without going through the commandments of the law which Christ abolished.

After 1480 years, the Jews showed they could not follow the Law, and with Christ fulfilling it and the ceremonial ones, we are free from it. So with Jesus, being the Lord of the Sabbath, we are free to chose any day, and anytime to gather for communion and celebration of Him with no more legalistic requirements to follow the old obsolete law.

Any Christian following any portion of the Law, is doing what Paul preached against when he chastised the Judaizers who tried to put the Christians back into bondage to the Law. This is one of the things he wrote to the Colossians about when he said,

Let no one judge you in food or in drink,
or regarding a festival or a new moon or Sabbaths
(Colossians 2:16)

Paul also wrote that, if you observe any part of the Old Law, then you must follow it all. Does anyone truly want to be bound by the full weight of a law that God's own people could never follow? The answer is a resounding NO. Praise God, because we are free to worship HIM anywhere, on any day, at anytime by going through the One who fulfilled and abolished the law. Thus setting us free from a Law we could never dream of keeping.

The flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
(Galatians 5:17:18)

Thus if you are not under the law, you are not under any obligations to any of the ceremonial requirements either. Nor are you bound by the Jewish Sabbath as I pointed out above from Paul's letter to the Colossians. Anyone who feels obligated to an abolished symbolism of the Old Law is keeping themselves from truly enjoying all the freedom God offers us through His Son's death and Resurrection.

I now offer two more pieces of evidence. One comes from the mouth of our LORD Jesus Himself, when the rich young ruler asked, "what must i do to have eternal life?" Jesus replied to him;

You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,' 'Honor your father and your mother and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”
(Matthew 19:18-19)

The second one comes from Paul's letter to the Jewish Christians in Rome, we learn, not from what he wrote, but rather what he did not write when he listed the commandments we should obey. Mind you, Paul was once a Pharisee of Pharisees, a man who persecuted Jewish converts to Christianity for violating the commandments. So, let us look at what Paul left out when he wrote about the commandments we are to obey in his letter to the Romans.

Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law. For the commandments, "YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY," "YOU SHALL NOT MURDER," "YOU SHALL NOT STEAL," "YOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS," "YOU SHALL NOT COVET," and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF." Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. And do this, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep; for now our salvation is nearer than when we first believed.
(Romans 13:8-11)

It should be enough to read what Jesus said on this matter, but we also see Paul then teach that which our LORD HIMSELF said. So I ask you, what is NOT included in this list of commandments from Jesus and then Paul about which commandments we should obey to have eternal life? It is the Sabbath. If Paul himself is not obeying the Sabbath, than why would any born again Christian want to follow a regulation from a law that is obsolete? Obsolete, because Jesus fulfilled the letter of the law and became our Sabbath rest.

So many fail to understand that as a Jew, Jesus had to fulfill both the legal laws and ceremonial laws in order to abolish them, because all the high priests and all the blood they spilled never satisfied the law completely so it was never fulfilled. Yet the nano second he died, the curtain separating the inner and outer room was torn by GOD from top to bottom. Jesus fulfilled the requirements of the Law. Thus the new dispensation began that set us free from the law written on stone and the ceremonial regulations. Today we are justified, "Just As If We Have Not Sinned." We are cleansed by HIS blood and freed by the atoning work on the Cross.

Thank GOD we are free, free at last. Free from observing anything the old law said we had to do. Thus our Sabbath in now in Jesus, Who allows us to come straight through HIM as our mediator to GOD. Jesus is our traveling Tabernacle who resides in us, and thus our Sabbath it eternal. Eternal in that everyday is a Sabbath for us, and at any moment we can worship HIM, because we now worship HIM in Spirit and in Truth.

Yet there is more, because when we read what the author of Hebrews wrote, which most scholars agree was an epistle specifically written to the Jewish believers who were still struggling with the confines of the Mosaic law.

In that He say,  "A NEW COVENANT, He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away. 
(Hebrews 8:13)
There remains therefore a rest for the people of God. For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience.
(Hebrews 4:9-11)

Finally, I share with you what was in the letter from the first council ever held by the elders of the church when the question arose about whether or not Gentile believers should be circumcised. In the letter they pointed out what they should follow, and keeping the Sabbath was NOT among the things they were instructed to follow. Anyone who claims the Sabbath must be kept by Christians, I would suggest you take it up with Peter and James who oversaw the council meeting on what rules the Gentile believers should follow.

Then it pleased the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas, namely, Judas who was also named Barsabas, and Silas, leading men among the brethren. They wrote this letter by them: The apostles, the elders, and the brethren, To the brethren who are of the Gentiles in Antioch, Syria, and Cilicia: Greetings. Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, "You must be circumcised and keep the law"—to whom we gave no such commandment— it seemed good to us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who will also report the same things by word of mouth. For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.
(Acts 15:27-29)

Praise God we are free from the bondage of a system that not only whitewashed our sin until a new animal was slain for it's blood to be spilled and sprinkled upon the mercy seat inside the inner room behind a curtain, but also held us hostage to worshipping together only on the sabbath. Once that curtain in the inner room was torn from top to bottom by GOD HIMSELF, we were set free to now enter into the presence of our LORD through our LORD, and commune with our LORD at any time on any day. Thank you JESUS!


TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: legalism; robertusstephanus; sabbath; sabbathrest; traditions
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To: Philsworld

Ezekiel 46:1 says otherwise.

Why you don’t understand that is why you buy and sell today is Thor’s day March 21 and not His 10th day of His 1st month..

It’s simply a matter of faith.

Your faith is obviously in the Pope Gregory calendar.

It’s okay. You have lots of company. I am okay with not trusting the Pope when the bible says that little horn would think to change time and law..

I’ve recognized they did and do both.

You haven’t reached that conclusion yet..


321 posted on 03/21/2024 12:41:30 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: Philsworld

Saturday isn’t holy either.

That’s a Judaism problem that they can’t perceive..

You appear to have the same problem


322 posted on 03/21/2024 12:42:47 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

Saturday isn’t holy either.

That’s a Judaism problem that they can’t perceive..


The Sabbath wasn’t made for the Jew. It was made for man.


323 posted on 03/21/2024 12:45:24 PM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Philsworld

——>Saturday isn’t holy either.

Better look again.

Exodus 20:8Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.


324 posted on 03/21/2024 12:48:05 PM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: delchiante

Maybe the 10 commandments belong to the beast too???


325 posted on 03/21/2024 12:49:14 PM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: delchiante

——>Your faith is obviously in the Pope Gregory calendar.

No, my faith is in Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ commands all who follow Him to keep the 7th day Sabbath holy. You can do what you want. Good luck.


326 posted on 03/21/2024 12:51:53 PM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Philsworld

Yes.

And The Word was circumcised on the Sabbath,His 8th Day

And the Word laid in the tomb on the Sabbath,His 15th Day

The Word proclaimed He offers living water on the Sabbath,His 22nd Day

The Word came down and landed on His assembly, and about 3,000 were saved on His Sabbath, the 29th Day..

None of those are Saturnday this month..
Man has changed time and law..

You can’t see it.
I can’t unsee it..

That’s the difference..


327 posted on 03/21/2024 12:54:28 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: Philsworld

Which Jesus do you follow?

The Good Friday lamb or the Passover Lamb?

There’s a difference..


328 posted on 03/21/2024 12:55:41 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

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329 posted on 03/21/2024 2:08:49 PM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Philsworld

Yeah.
You didn’t answer which lamb you follow..

Thanks for confirming just how important Rome is to your faith journey.
Judaism and Islam is actually in the same boat with you and other harlot daughters..

Just make sure you give the Sunday keepers a break.

Your denomination has a worship the Beast problem that won’t be fixed this side of the Kingdom, just like the rest of the deceived world..

The Passover Lamb, the Unleavened Bread of sincerity and Truth and the First Fruits of those fallen asleep

Who knew those 3 days would be counterfeited by Rome?
The Church doesn’t.
Islam doesn’t
Judaism doesn’t

Tough to remember the Sabbath if one doesn’t have the Passover Lamb..


330 posted on 03/21/2024 5:37:28 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

Has the 7 day creation week cycle ever been interrupted? Yes or No?


331 posted on 03/21/2024 6:51:57 PM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Philsworld

Yes.

It’s interrupted for The Day of the New Month according to scripture.

He then has 4 weeks of 6 work days and the 7th Day Sabbath.

Let me ask you a question:

3 Then God said, “Let there be light”; and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good; and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day.

That’s the first work Day, correct?


332 posted on 03/22/2024 6:50:49 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

——>Yes.

Wrong. You must be the only person on earth to believe such idiocy. There is such clear biblical truth that shows the continual creation week cycle. There is literally no doubt. Yet, you doubt. I will say that such crazy, irrational, theories are antichrist. You do realize that, don’t you? Christ kept the same 7th-day-Sabbath that I do, that Israel did at Sinai, when PREINCARNATE CHRIST commanded it. Calendars have changed, but not the 7 day weekly cycle. The word of God agrees with me, not you. Even those goofy believers in the pre trib rapture theory believe in the continual 7 day weekly cycle since creation. They just don’t believe in the Sabbath commandment. You will never accept the 7th-day-Sabbath because you have been deceived. There’s no other way to say it. Frigg day this, Twis day that, extra days added to the 7 day weekly cycle, instituted since creation, BY PREINCARNATE JESUS CHRIST....Idiocy.


333 posted on 03/22/2024 7:29:55 AM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Philsworld

In all your babbling on, there is a real reason why I asked you about the first work day.
And I have one more question at the end that you can feel free to ask Antichrist Islam, the withered fig tree of Antichrist Judaism, the Beast, the Antichrist Papacy, the Mother of harlots and any of her harlot daughters-to see if they have answer that matches the answer I received from the Creator.

But stick with me until that question...

Since you confirmed that is the first day.

Summary:

So, the First Work Day is Let There Be Light.

The second work day follows that, formation of sky.

The third work day follows that, Land is uncovered and vegetation begins.

The fourth day follows that, lights in the firmament

The fifth day follows that, sea creatures/birds

The sixth day follows that,other animals and man

The seventh day follows that, Rest

Here’s the question:

Which of those 6 work days you confirm as His 6 work days, was the Earth created?


334 posted on 03/22/2024 8:34:12 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

——>But stick with me until that question...

No


335 posted on 03/22/2024 9:07:43 AM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Philsworld

I had a feeling you wouldn’t answer that question.

Neither can Antichrist Islam
Neither can the withered fig tree of Antichrist Judaism
Neither can the Antichrist Papacy
Neither can the Beast
Neither can the Mother of harlots
Neither can the harlot daughters

Amazing to observe the blind lead the blind..

Enjoy your false goddess frigg day!

Today is tne Creator’s 11th Day of His 1st month.

The 2nd Day Christ spent in the heart of the earth, Jerusalem after He had cursed the fig tree..

Babylon will fall Phil.

Timber!


336 posted on 03/22/2024 9:21:29 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

——>I had a feeling you wouldn’t answer that question.

It’s pointless to answer any more of your questions. You literally make no sense. What I see from your posts is irrational and gibberish.


337 posted on 03/22/2024 9:54:35 AM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Philsworld

I asked a really tough question..

What work day was the earth created..

It’s okay to admit you don’t have an honest answer..

That’s the point

Not pointless at all.

But it doesn’t help you with your point, so.

Again,enjoy Frigg day..

In a couple days, Rome and her daughters will rehearse an event that happened yesterday on the Father’s calendar.

Maxwell Smart comes to mind-
‘Missed it by that much’..

Satan does indeed deceives the whole world

It’s been fun!


338 posted on 03/22/2024 10:18:50 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: OneVike

They were never the same after Ozzie left.


339 posted on 03/22/2024 10:23:49 AM PDT by x
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To: Philsworld
It’s pointless to answer any more of your questions. You literally make no sense. What I see from your posts is irrational and gibberish.

I tried to tell you.

340 posted on 03/22/2024 11:14:17 AM PDT by BipolarBob (If you bring up my past, you should know that Jesus dropped all of the charges.)
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