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What About The Sabbath
The Reason For My Faith ^ | 3/3/24 | Chuck Ness

Posted on 03/03/2024 3:31:37 PM PST by OneVike

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Throughout His ministry, Jesus never once broke the fourth commandment which required that all Jews observe the Sabbath. He was after all Jew. However, He did give us a clue that a change to the Sabbath was coming. To make my point, you must first understand that the original manuscripts of the Scriptures were not divided into verses and chapters.

The Old Testament manuscripts were written by scribes for the religious leaders to study. The New Testament manuscripts were letters originally written to be dispersed amongst the believers to read. They were like the letters you receive today. Just a document written in sentences and paragraphs with no verse or chapter numbers.

So you really had to know the transcripts well in order find any information you needed. Finally in the mid 16th century a Frenchman named, Robert Estienne (better known as Robertus Stephanus), would divide the Scriptures into chapters and verses. So today we can find passages by memorizing chapters and verses.

Now I must say, that while I do believe every Word of the Bible is the inspired Word of God, I do not believe that Stephanus's choices of where he decided to split some sentences up into different verses or chapters were inspired. I say so, because there are many instances in the Scriptures where a reader can be distracted or even misled as to what the passage is conveying.

Case in point is chapters 11 and 12 of Matthew's Gospel. I personally believe that he made a mistake by ending Matthew chapter 11 at verse 30. It's my belief that chapter 11 should have had 8 more verses for a total of 38. Thus it would end after the following statement by Jesus,

“For the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath.”
(Matthew 12:8)

The following information is quite valuable in the apologetical debate on why so many are mistaken in their belief that Christians should observe Saturday as the Sabbath. Continuing on Jesus' statement in Matthew 12:8, I take you back to the end of Matthew chapter 11. Jesus had just finished telling the crowd that no one born of a woman is greater than John the Baptist, when He started telling everyone to come to Him for rest.

“Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.”
(Matthew 11:28-30)

By speaking about the concept of rest, the audience He is speaking to would automatically think of the Sabbath rest which God gave them. They were first told about this gift when Moses presented the Ten Commandments God handed to Him for the people to follow. As Moses read the tablets, he said,

Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it."
(Exodus 20:8-11)

By the time Jesus started His ministry, the Israelites had been observing the Sabbath for almost 1480 years. They understood that it was a day of rest, even for the animals. A day they were to be free from the labors of life that kept them from communing with God. So, when Jesus starts talking about rest at the end of chapter 11, he continues his thought process on through to verse 8 of chapter 12. So when He calls them to come to Him for rest, and then claims He is the Lord of the Sabbath, it goes without saying that this is all one thought process and thus chapter 11 should have ended at verse 38, with chapter 12 actually beginning at verse 9 where Matthew wrote,

Now when He had departed from there, He went into their synagogue.
(Matthew 12:9)

The next 20 verses do continue the matter of a rest, but not until Jesus moved to another site. Thus it then makes sense to split the chapter after Jesus made His statement about Him being the Lord of the Sabbath, and after he had arrived at a different location.

This is important, because when Jesus died on the cross, He fulfilled all the requirements of the Law, including the one that calls for us to obey the Sabbath, since as He stated, He is our Sabbath. Just as we are not bound by going through a High Priest by offering a sacrifice, we too do not need to follow the Jewish Law. We can reach God through Christ, on any day at anytime we so desire. Without going through the commandments of the law which Christ abolished.

After 1480 years, the Jews showed they could not follow the Law, and with Christ fulfilling it and the ceremonial ones, we are free from it. So with Jesus, being the Lord of the Sabbath, we are free to chose any day, and anytime to gather for communion and celebration of Him with no more legalistic requirements to follow the old obsolete law.

Any Christian following any portion of the Law, is doing what Paul preached against when he chastised the Judaizers who tried to put the Christians back into bondage to the Law. This is one of the things he wrote to the Colossians about when he said,

Let no one judge you in food or in drink,
or regarding a festival or a new moon or Sabbaths
(Colossians 2:16)

Paul also wrote that, if you observe any part of the Old Law, then you must follow it all. Does anyone truly want to be bound by the full weight of a law that God's own people could never follow? The answer is a resounding NO. Praise God, because we are free to worship HIM anywhere, on any day, at anytime by going through the One who fulfilled and abolished the law. Thus setting us free from a Law we could never dream of keeping.

The flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
(Galatians 5:17:18)

Thus if you are not under the law, you are not under any obligations to any of the ceremonial requirements either. Nor are you bound by the Jewish Sabbath as I pointed out above from Paul's letter to the Colossians. Anyone who feels obligated to an abolished symbolism of the Old Law is keeping themselves from truly enjoying all the freedom God offers us through His Son's death and Resurrection.

I now offer two more pieces of evidence. One comes from the mouth of our LORD Jesus Himself, when the rich young ruler asked, "what must i do to have eternal life?" Jesus replied to him;

You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,' 'Honor your father and your mother and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”
(Matthew 19:18-19)

The second one comes from Paul's letter to the Jewish Christians in Rome, we learn, not from what he wrote, but rather what he did not write when he listed the commandments we should obey. Mind you, Paul was once a Pharisee of Pharisees, a man who persecuted Jewish converts to Christianity for violating the commandments. So, let us look at what Paul left out when he wrote about the commandments we are to obey in his letter to the Romans.

Owe no one anything except to love one another, for he who loves another has fulfilled the law. For the commandments, "YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY," "YOU SHALL NOT MURDER," "YOU SHALL NOT STEAL," "YOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS," "YOU SHALL NOT COVET," and if there is any other commandment, are all summed up in this saying, namely, YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF." Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law. And do this, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep; for now our salvation is nearer than when we first believed.
(Romans 13:8-11)

It should be enough to read what Jesus said on this matter, but we also see Paul then teach that which our LORD HIMSELF said. So I ask you, what is NOT included in this list of commandments from Jesus and then Paul about which commandments we should obey to have eternal life? It is the Sabbath. If Paul himself is not obeying the Sabbath, than why would any born again Christian want to follow a regulation from a law that is obsolete? Obsolete, because Jesus fulfilled the letter of the law and became our Sabbath rest.

So many fail to understand that as a Jew, Jesus had to fulfill both the legal laws and ceremonial laws in order to abolish them, because all the high priests and all the blood they spilled never satisfied the law completely so it was never fulfilled. Yet the nano second he died, the curtain separating the inner and outer room was torn by GOD from top to bottom. Jesus fulfilled the requirements of the Law. Thus the new dispensation began that set us free from the law written on stone and the ceremonial regulations. Today we are justified, "Just As If We Have Not Sinned." We are cleansed by HIS blood and freed by the atoning work on the Cross.

Thank GOD we are free, free at last. Free from observing anything the old law said we had to do. Thus our Sabbath in now in Jesus, Who allows us to come straight through HIM as our mediator to GOD. Jesus is our traveling Tabernacle who resides in us, and thus our Sabbath it eternal. Eternal in that everyday is a Sabbath for us, and at any moment we can worship HIM, because we now worship HIM in Spirit and in Truth.

Yet there is more, because when we read what the author of Hebrews wrote, which most scholars agree was an epistle specifically written to the Jewish believers who were still struggling with the confines of the Mosaic law.

In that He say,  "A NEW COVENANT, He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away. 
(Hebrews 8:13)
There remains therefore a rest for the people of God. For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His.Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience.
(Hebrews 4:9-11)

Finally, I share with you what was in the letter from the first council ever held by the elders of the church when the question arose about whether or not Gentile believers should be circumcised. In the letter they pointed out what they should follow, and keeping the Sabbath was NOT among the things they were instructed to follow. Anyone who claims the Sabbath must be kept by Christians, I would suggest you take it up with Peter and James who oversaw the council meeting on what rules the Gentile believers should follow.

Then it pleased the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas, namely, Judas who was also named Barsabas, and Silas, leading men among the brethren. They wrote this letter by them: The apostles, the elders, and the brethren, To the brethren who are of the Gentiles in Antioch, Syria, and Cilicia: Greetings. Since we have heard that some who went out from us have troubled you with words, unsettling your souls, saying, "You must be circumcised and keep the law"—to whom we gave no such commandment— it seemed good to us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who will also report the same things by word of mouth. For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things: that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from things strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.
(Acts 15:27-29)

Praise God we are free from the bondage of a system that not only whitewashed our sin until a new animal was slain for it's blood to be spilled and sprinkled upon the mercy seat inside the inner room behind a curtain, but also held us hostage to worshipping together only on the sabbath. Once that curtain in the inner room was torn from top to bottom by GOD HIMSELF, we were set free to now enter into the presence of our LORD through our LORD, and commune with our LORD at any time on any day. Thank you JESUS!


TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: legalism; robertusstephanus; sabbath; sabbathrest; traditions
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To: Philsworld

Ezekiel 46:1

This is what the Lord GOD says: “The gate of the inner courtyard facing east shall be shut for the six working days; but it shall be opened on the Sabbath day and opened on the day of the new moon.


301 posted on 03/17/2024 8:19:15 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: Philsworld

The 7th Day Sabbath isn’t Saturday because Antichrist Judaism says so..

They don’t have the Passover Lamb.

If they had the Lamb, they would have the Son,and the Father.

They don’t worship in Spirit and Truth.
And neither does Antichrist Papacy..

They counterfeit Truth that you peddle as your gospel truth.

Antichrist Judaism worships the Beast these days..

Follow that if you want..
That’s not going to lead anyone to Truth..


302 posted on 03/17/2024 8:24:07 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante; All

——>The 7th Day Sabbath isn’t Saturday because Antichrist Judaism says so..

God says so, because it’s His day. It was made for man, not for the Jew. Are Jews included in the term “man”? Sure. So is every other human on the face of this earth.

——>Follow that if you want..

I still have no idea what you are talking about. How about anyone else???


303 posted on 03/17/2024 9:01:35 PM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: delchiante

Already CLEARLY discussed with you. The 7-day week has NEVER BEEN INTERRUPTED. Don’t know why you can’t seem to understand that. The Sabbath was reintroduced to Israel at Sinai. Christ kept it. The apostles kept it. Every Jew and Christian Sabbath-keeper since has kept it, ON THE 7TH DAY, as commanded by preincarnate Jesus Christ (God).


304 posted on 03/17/2024 9:05:38 PM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Philsworld

Clearly, you still believe His Day of the New Moon can be one of His 6 work days when that one verse shows it is a separate day from His 6 work days..

His instructions for that little gate exposes Islam’s calendar. It exposes Judaism’s calendar and exposes Christianity’s calendar.

The Sovereign has a day that begins each of His months that is Day 1.

That Day 1 isn’t one of His 6 workdays.
If it was, the gate would be shut,but He says the gate is to opened.

I have yet to get an answer from Islam,Judaism or Christianity why He instructed Ezekiel that way..

Thankfully, He is willing to instruct to why..

If Islam,Judaism and Christianity don’t have any interest,they can continue to fulfill bible prophecy and call today Monday March 18 like Daniel’s Beast teaches them..

They probably are just starting their work weeks when the Father is finishing His first work week of His 1st month.

Amazing the blindness of those with eyes that say they see..

Yet can’t..


305 posted on 03/18/2024 6:33:46 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

——>Clearly, you still believe His Day of the New Moon can be one of His 6 work days when that one verse shows it is a separate day from His 6 work days..

As I’ve previously posted (from 222)

7 day week, as has always been from creation.

Gate open 1 day of those 7 (the Sabbath) AND ALSO on the day of the new moon, whichever day of the 7 day creation week that falls on.


306 posted on 03/19/2024 4:59:56 AM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Philsworld

His Day of the New Moon doesn’t commemorate His 1st workday when He says Let there be Light.

Nor does His Day of the New Moon commemorate His 2nd workday when He separated the waters above the firmament from the waters below the firmament.

Nor does His Day of the New Moon commemorate His 3rd workday when He separated the water and the land appeared, and vegetation grew.

Nor does His Day of the New Moon commemorate His 4th workday when He created the lights in the firmament for signs and appointments days and years.

Nor does His Day of the New Moon commemorate His 5th workday when He created the sea creatures and the birds that fly in the heavens.

Nor does His Day of the New Moon commemorate His 6th workday when He created the remaining animals and man..

Nor does His Day of the New Moon commemorate His 7th Day Sabbath, when He rested from working those previous 6 work days..

So, what the heck is a Day of the New Moon if it doesn’t commemorate His 6 work days, like His 6 workdays do, or the Sabbath, that commemorates Him resting after 6 days?

I know you don’t know the answer.
Neither does Antichrist Islam.
Neither does Antichrist Judaism.
Neither does the Roman Beast.
Neither does the Antichrist Papacy.
Neither does Christianity.

He knows the answer.
I asked Him.

And the answer to why is found in the scriptures.

And that’s why one can see Satan deceiving the whole world today, marking them as worshipping the Beast that has zero interest in the Day of the Moon.

His Day of the New Moon, Day 1 in each of His months, It’s quite a day.

Commemorating in the Beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

Commemorating in the Beginning was the Word, and that Word was with God and that Word wasGod.

Commemorating and that Word was made flesh,and dwelt among us, (and we saw the glory thereof, as the glory of the only begotten Son of the Father), full of grace and Truth.

Represented by the Throne in the book of Revelation, surrounded by 24 elders and 4 Beasts.

With the Passover Lamb in the middle.

A day that, according to the instructions to Ezekiel from God Himself, the gate was to be opened at the temple.

Which is directly opposite the instructions He gave for His 6 work days.

Because His Day of the New Moon isn’t and cannot be one of His 6 work days..
It’s a set apart day at the head of each of His months.

Thanks to following that pattern for awhile using His Creation and His Word, one can know that today is:

the 9th Day of His 1st month, 6 days before the Passover.
It’s the first work day of 2nd work week that commemorates Let there be Light..

John references this day and what occured that day before the Lamb triumphantly entered Jerusalem the next day,the 10th day of His 1st month.

Which is tomorrow according to the lights in His firmament and the scriptures.

Somehow I don’t see that labeled on the Antichrist’s calendar.

That’s a shame, but no less prophetic..

Let’s call it an act of faith that I trusted Him that His Day of the New Moon isn’t one of His 6 work days or His Sabbath.

A faith step that proved fruitful because I know today isn’t Woden’s Day March 20th to Him who made heaven and earth and the sea and fountains of water..

The reality of the world isn’t the reality of the Kingdom to Come.
Just like the Roman Beast’s Jesus isn’t the Passover Lamb nor the Messiah of Israel.
Just like the Roman Beast’s gospel of Friday,Saturday,Sunday isn’t Passover,Unleavened Bread and First Fruits.

A lesson Babylon will know in time


307 posted on 03/20/2024 7:22:19 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

7 day week, as has always been from creation. It has never changed and never will. Six work days and 1 day of rest as commanded by preincarnate Jesus Christ. If you choose not to follow His commandments, so be it.


308 posted on 03/20/2024 6:48:51 PM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Philsworld

Your Roman Catholic delusions of a continuous 7 days since Creation ordained and managed and cared for by the Antichrist Papacy is a sight to behold, when one little bible verse exposes your lie.

Why do you believe the Beast?

Serious question.

Why is your faith in an Antichrist Papacy who tells you today is the Father’s 5th day when the lights in the firmament and His Word says otherwise?

Serious question..

Aren’t you supposed to be warning against the Beast and not in bed with it?


309 posted on 03/21/2024 6:48:51 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

——>Why do you believe the Beast?

I believe God’s account of creation and the literal creation week (day 1-7). It was the same 7 day week that was in existence when Christ walked the earth. Same 7 day week we have today. No time has been lost since Sinai. Records have been kept. Christ is our example. Not a chance on this earth what you are saying is correct. The bible has spoken and so have historical chronologists. You are wrong on both accounts. The weekly creation cycle has NEVER BEEN INTERRUPTED by the Papacy or anyone else. Calendar change? sure, BUT NOT THE 7 DAY WEEKLY CYCLE.

Day 1
Day 2
Day 3
Day 4
Day 5
Day 6
Day 7


310 posted on 03/21/2024 7:29:25 AM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Philsworld

It’s the scriptures that says His Day of the New Moon isn’t His 6 work days or the Sabbath.

Your Beast runs out of Days to account for the Day of the New Moon.

Partly because your Beast is a sun worshipping Beast..

His 6 work days are only interrupted one time in His year, and that is 6 months from this very day, which is His 10th Day of His 7th month, a day called the Day of Atonement in scripture.
( And don’t expect Judaism or Christianity to tell you why)

Every other work week of His is never interrupted.
It’s always 6 work days to commemorate the 6 days in Genesis.

It’s not work 2 days, then a New Moon can occur.

That doesn’t happen on His calendar.
That does happen if one is telling time using the Beast.

Which is the ultimate point..
The Beast’s Sunday Monday,Tiwsday,Wodensday, Thor’s day, day,Friggday,Saturday is not His Week..

The Beast’s calendar months aren’t His calendar months.

His first work week is Days 2-7 on His calendar.
His Sabbath is the 8th day on His calendar months.

His second work week is Days 9-14 on His calendar.
His Sabbath is the 15th day of His calendar months..

Day 14 isn’t just an annual preparation day when Christ died.
He finished His work on the 6th day.
That’s not Friday on His calendar, it’s Passover on His calendar.

Christ didn’t just rest in the tomb on the annual Sabbath of the 15th, He rested on the Father’s weekly 7th Day Sabbath.
That’s not Saturnday on His calendar,it’s Unleavened Bread on His calendar.

His third work week is Days 16-21 on His calendar.
His Sabbath is the 22nd days of His calendar months.

Note the 16th day is the ‘first day of the week’.

That’s First Fruits. That’s Resurrection Day, in accordance with the scripture.
Note that isn’t Sunday on His calendar. That’s the Wavesheaf First Fruits oh His calendar.

His fourth work week is Days 23-28 on His calendar.
His Sabbath is the 29th Day of His months.

Then Israel is instructed to seek out a New Moon to start a New month..
If seen, Day 1 begins of a New Month.
If not seen, Day 30th of the old month is added..

That is according to scripture..

That isn’t what the Beast sells for a calendar of days or a week of days, yet the bible teaches that.
The Word lived that.
The Word is that..

Time has changed.
And the one who changed it comes out of Daniel’s 4th Beast, just as predicted.

You need Sunday,Monday,Tuesday, Woden’s Day, Thor’s Day,Friggday,Saturday to tell your story..

He has His Day of the New Moon,24 work days (4 uninterrupted weeks of 6 days of work), 4 weekly Sabbath days that follow those 4 weeks of work, and His Son, the Word made Flesh, to tell His..

Today is His 10th day of His 1st month, according to His lights in the firmament,His barley crops in Israel, and His Word.

It’s a rather triumphant day for the Passover Lamb.
It’s a rather remarkable day for an Israel seeking a Promised Land.

It’s rather remarkable they have no frickin clue..

Thanks to the Beast and Antichrist that declares today is Thor’s day March 21..

You have a hard thing to sell in the end times.
It requires faith in a Beast system and a bunch of what the scriptures label Antichrist.

It all falls with one bible verse.

But the system stays in place until His Kingdom comes, according to Daniel..

So, we wait.

Who to worship?

Him who says today is His 2nd work day, the 10th Day of His 1st month when His Son entered Jerusalem. A day Insrael entered the Promised Land.

Or the Beast and Antichrist’s Thor’s Day..

Tick tock..


311 posted on 03/21/2024 8:13:48 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

——>The Beast’s Sunday Monday,Tiwsday,Wodensday, Thor’s day, day,Friggday,Saturday is not His Week..

Doesn’t matter to me what the powers that be call days of the week. I know them as days 1-7, as it was in the bible, since creation, uninterrupted.


312 posted on 03/21/2024 11:08:54 AM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Philsworld

The powers that be don’t call today His 10th day of His 1st month..

The powers that be would call that January 10th..

Those powers have changed time..

When His Kingdom comes, January 10 ceases from being the substitute for today..

Btw, the power’s Friday,Saturday and Sunday will cease to exist too..

But when in the Roman Beast, do as the Roman Beast does..


313 posted on 03/21/2024 12:12:29 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

1 2 3 4 5 6 7, uninterrupted since creation.


314 posted on 03/21/2024 12:28:25 PM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: delchiante

——>But when in the Roman Beast, do as the Roman Beast does..

The Roman Beast doesn’t keep the 7th day Sabbath.


315 posted on 03/21/2024 12:29:19 PM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: delchiante

Those powers have changed time..

Calendars, yes, but not the UNINTERRUPTED 7 day weekly cycle.


316 posted on 03/21/2024 12:30:52 PM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Philsworld

You keep believing that..

His Day of the New Moon has a worthy Roman Beast substitute:

December 25..

The bible destroys that day like it destroys every Roman Beast day..

Almost like the Roman Beast isn’t the good guys in the end..
Just a vessel of Satan..

Enjoy that ride while it lasts


317 posted on 03/21/2024 12:35:31 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

Do you not understand the simple concept that the weekly 7 day cycle, since the creation of the earth, has never been interrupted? What is it about that you can’t understand? I’d love to know.


318 posted on 03/21/2024 12:37:38 PM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: delchiante

-——>December 25..

I don’t celebrate December 25 or Easter. I am commanded to keep the 7th day Sabbath Holy. That’s what I do.


319 posted on 03/21/2024 12:39:53 PM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: DesertRhino

blue laws....


320 posted on 03/21/2024 12:41:15 PM PDT by cherry
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