What About The Sabbath

The Reason For My Faith ^ | 3/3/24 | Chuck Ness

[BipolarBob]

"Bipoloar Bob is a works based religionist who thinks he can sneak into the Heavenly Realm by skipping Belief, Grace, and a Sincere Heart after the Lord with “works” - in particular just one commandment (Sabbath Keeping)."

RWC can now read minds. ONLY God can read our thoughts. And you aren't God.
" skipping Belief, Grace, and a Sincere Heart"
Again you have placed your judgmental throne with The Most Highs (same mistake Lucifer made). You have no idea of my faith, or grace God has bestowed or the condition of my heart. You betray yours with false accusations though.
And as far as "sneaking" into Heaven on just one Commandment, you imply I ignore the other nine.
"Nevermind the murderous thoughts or false witness his cult has for those who do not believe as they do."
Jesus was mocked for His association with Tax collectors and prostitutes. Imperfect people they are but still . . "murderous thoughts".
Is lying a sin? Is it okay for you to lie to me? It doesn't hurt me, you understand but while you are calling me out of (imaginary) accusations, let me remind you of what you said to me once.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/religion/4164405/posts?page=44#44

[Philsworld]

You mean when the earth was “without form and void”? I take it that you aren’t a creationist?

[Philsworld]

That’s about 1500 years after the flood.

Correction...1500 years after creation.

[BipolarBob]

Well it’s about time we had a cult meeting to see if anybody has Murdered anybody or just thought about it. I was going to ping Mark but I don’t see where he posted on this thread and he Left off Wuli and Douglas for some reason which seems unfair. I mean if we’re going to paint everybody with thought crimes, it should be thorough. I’ve given this “sneaking into Heaven” some thought and wondered if a person could dig under the walls to get in. Any thoughts on this? And I believe the walls are pretty high (can’t remember the dimensions) and pole vaulting over seemed out of the question.

[Seven_0]

7 day creation week
30 days to a month
360 days to a year

360 days x 3.5 = 1260 prophetic years (times time and half a time, etc...

There has never been 360 days in a year, but if you insist on using 360 in your calculations then you should realize that 1260 X 360 days per year is only 1242 years on our calendar.

[delchiante]

There was 360 days a year before the flood.

But that’s the price of a flood, it changed the moon phases to what we have today..

But this poster isnt into using the moon to tell time.
They are solar time tellers like their Pope

The moon phases today messes with 42 months or 3 1/2 years too.
The only people that get exactly 42 months and 3 1/2 years are sun worshipping timekeepers like Rome and the Pope.

The Father’s calendar has 43 months for every 42 solar.. The Father’s 3 1/2 years has 43, not 42 months.

One clue to who the enemy is in the end times thanks to telling time using His sun and moon.
Just like He designed it on His 4th day.

[Philsworld]

Dig under? Probably not. The foundation runs too deep and the city sits on bedrock (see what I did there?). As for going over the walls, angels in machine gun towers will get you every time. The best way in is definitely sneaking in as part of the catering/party crew. I know it was tried in the movie “Under Siege”, and God would certainly be looking for it (He probably has that movie recorded on DVD), but it could totally work. Yep, been thinking about it for a quite some time.

[Philsworld]

There was 360 days a year before the flood.

But that’s the price of a flood, it changed the moon phases to what we have today.

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Really? How long after the flood did it take for that change? More than 150 days?

1260 prophetic days...12:40 - 27:30 (+/-)
https://youtu.be/Ip8HaGvzbeE

[Seven_0]

You are saying that the little horn ruled from 538AD to 1798AD or 1260 years.
What allows you to use 365.24 day per year instead of the 360 days per year that you insist on?

[Philsworld]

Here’s an excellent article, EXACTLY on point of our discussion. It is NOT written by a SDA, but it does quote Leroy Froom (SDA) and his supporting article.

https://www.biblechronology.org/studies/biblical_prophetic_year.pdf#:~:text=If%2042%20months%20%3D%203-1%2F2%20years%3B%20and%20If,it%20is%20biblical%20prophetic%20year%20and%20prophetic%20month.

The BIBLICAL PROPHETIC YEAR ITS LENGTH, ORIGIN AND APPLICATION
ZIONS TOWER of the MORNING TRACT PUBLICATIONS P. O. Box 28021 Detroit, Mich. 48228 1983

From the Conclusion:

In approaching the biblical prophetic year, the first task was to define its length, as determined by a comparison of related Scriptures containing similar time expressions. By subjecting these to a formal mathematical reasoning process, it was found that the prophetic year was equivalent to 360 days, and the prophetic month to 30 days.

The next inquiry, almost a parenthesis to the study, was to probe the origin of these lengths; that is, to consider how the Creator might have decided upon employing a 360-day year and a 30-day month for use in biblical prophecy. The conclusions, of course, could only be suggestive, since they are not positively stated in the Bible. Nonetheless, in correlating Scripture with naturally recurring motions of the sun, earth, and moon, certain relationships were evident. An average of the solar and “lunar” years yielded 359.80 days, and of the Gregorian and Jewish months, 29.98 days, almost identical with the prophetic 360-day year and 30-day month.

[Philsworld]

Here’s another article with similar conclusions. Also, NOT from a Seventh-day-Adventist as far as I know.

https://www.360calendar.com/find_New_Year_on_360_calendar.html

The 40-year cycles of the 360 calendar produces an average year the same as the Julian calendar, (365.25 days). This makes for easy conversions between calendars. However, the 360 calendar also has a leap-month correction every 4000 years (100 generations). This makes the 360 calendar just as accurate as our modern Gregorian calendar, which means that one can count backward and forward in time by increments of 4000 years and always know what our calendar year would be on the 360 calendar. Thus, the 360 calendar repeats itself on the Julian calendar every 40 years and on our modern (Gregorian) calendar every 4000 years. The 360 calendar can be further adjusted every 100,000 years (1000 generations of 100 years) for extreme accuracy, yet maintaining the simplicity of round biblical numbers. At this level (of 365.2422 average days in a year) it is out only about one day every 100,000 years. The calendar begins at the exodus from Egypt of Israel on 1446 BC.

[delchiante]

There was exactly 12 months and 30 days at the flood.

One can do the math in the bible.

You were tasked with doing the math with regards to the current 29.5 moon phase, which isn’t 30 days.

The current count is after the 29th Day on His calendar (not your Antichrist’s calendar) one seeks out the new crescent at the end of that day..

If it is seen, Day one of the New Month begins that next morning.

If it isn’t seen, Day 30th, also called new moon, is added, and Day one of the next New Month will begin the Day after the 30th.

That wasn’t needed before the flood.
All months were 30 days.
Anybody who told time using His Sun AND Moon could know what day it was, or at least where one was in His months, by looking at the moon phase.
Full moon- half the month is over.

That has changed. It’s no longer that way.

If the Days of Noah ever return literally, and each month is 30 days again, and 360 days in every year, I have no idea what has to happen to the earth or the moon to make that happen.
That’s a science question.

But what one can know is if they follow Noah’s flood journey, 360 was the year. The math is there.

But the math is also there with New Moon Day,6 work days, Sabbath,or 1+6+1,in the scriptures.

You use a lot of non biblical sources to try to explain away what’s found in His Word and His Creation..

That’s not a winning strategy..

[Philsworld]

——>One can do the math in the bible.

Both articles I linked did the math. Did you read them?

[delchiante]

No.
I read the Bible

[delchiante]

In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

12 And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.

13 In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah’s wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark;

14 They, and every beast after his kind, and all the cattle after their kind, and every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind, and every fowl after his kind, every bird of every sort.

15 And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life.

16 And they that went in, went in male and female of all flesh, as God had commanded him: and the Lord shut him in.

17 And the flood was forty days upon the earth; and the waters increased, and bare up the ark, and it was lift up above the earth.

18 And the waters prevailed, and were increased greatly upon the earth; and the ark went upon the face of the waters.

19 And the waters prevailed exceedingly upon the earth; and all the high hills, that were under the whole heaven, were covered.

20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man:

22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died.

23 And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark.

24 And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.

17th Day of 2nd month

150 days

8 And God remembered Noah, and every living thing, and all the cattle that was with him in the ark: and God made a wind to pass over the earth, and the waters assuaged;

2 The fountains also of the deep and the windows of heaven were stopped, and the rain from heaven was restrained;

3 And the waters returned from off the earth continually: and after the end of the hundred and fifty days the waters were abated.

4 And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.

17th month of 7th month

17th Day of 2nd month - 17th Day of 7th month= 150 days= 5x30
As in the days of Noah..

If you try to start on His calendar at 2/17 to 7/17 in the scriptures, you will not get 150 days today.
Its either 147 or 148 days.

To reach 150 days on His calendar, like detailed in Genesis, one needs 30 days each month, which means 12 months = 360 days

That’s according to the scriptures.

Because the world doesn’t tell time like Noah, or Moses, or the prophets did, lots of doctrines like using just the Sun to tell time, can expose Satanic and Antichrist lies and realities that can fall today, and eventually will fall,when Babylon falls..

Since Babylon believes there are 42 months in 3 1/2 of their years, and their reality confirms it, they miss that the Father currently has 43 months in His 3 1/2 years..
It used to be 42 months, but something occured in the past that caused His years to have an extra moon/month every three years..

And someday, if Noah times come back, there will be 30 days each month, and 150 days will mean exactly 5 months on His calendar again.

It isn’t yet.

30 days every month will mean every month will have an Amos 8:5 moment every month.
Maybe that’ll only come when His Kingdom comes.

We can know 1 New Moon at the Start, 24 work days, 4 Sabbath’s, and a new moon 30th day , equals 30.

But today it’s definitely 29 days at least every month in scriptures.

Antichrist’s calendar has one month that only gets 28 days ...

If one tells time like the bible can teach, that’s evidence of what the prophet Daniel predicted..

[Philsworld]

I use a lot of non-biblical sources to try to explain away what’s found in His Word and His Creation?

Those who wrote those articles read the bible too. You have an opinion and so do they. What makes you and your printed opinion FR any more believable or reliable? There will probably be billions of Christians that find themselves on the wrong side of the Judgment because of what they thought the bible said, and then fooled by false doctrine. Has God ever inspired NON-BIBLICAL writers over the course of history (of course He has). How would you know? You only read the bible? Right? Did you have any help in coming up with your opinion? Evidently not. You opened up the bible and now you know everything. I am very happy for you.

[Philsworld]

Why did people like Martin Luther and Charles Spurgeon even bother to write? All anyone has to do is read the bible for themselves. Church fathers’ opinions? Who cares, right? Just pick up a bible and you’re good to go.

[delchiante]

You sound bitter that your reliance on an Antichrist calendar can be debunked with just a few bible verses..

Actually just one verse.

And then gets reinforced by other places in the scriptures.

That’s the premise of testing and proving all things with scripture.

That’s also the only offensive weapon a person of faith has..

I’m not the one warning people about a visible mark on their hand and head,warning saps who don’t worship when the Beast says Antichrist Judaism has always worshipped, are doomed.

There’s actually one that invisible to us today, and the Beast and Antichrist are selling things like False goddess Frigg day as their gospel truth..

Without the scriptures, some person of faith may actually buy and sell that as truth, as opposed to buying gold refined by fire..

Worshipping the Beast is a no no in your doctrines right?
Wandering after the Beast is a no no in your doctrines right?
How bout trusting Antichrist is a no no in your doctrines right?

You and I just appear to differ on the timing, or time, in general..

I’ll stick with the 27th Day of His 12th month, as in the days of Moses, or the 27th Day of His 6th month, as in the Days of Noah.
His 5th Work Day in His 4th work week
A day that commemorates Him creating the creatures in the sea and birds of the heaven..

The Beast and Antichrist sell that on their Thors day.

The Beast and Antichrist sell their Goddess Frigg day is the day she created the remaining beasts of the earth and man..

Amazing what a difference a day can make in whether one is wandering after the Beast or following the Lamb in the end times..

On The Beasts Sunday March 9, it’s actually the Father’s 29th Day and His 7th Day Sabbath.

A day the Beast and Antichrist call their first work day.

Quite a thing to be able to observe from a distance.

And I certainly am not condemning Saturnday or Sunday keepers.
The Bible says Satan deceives the whole world.

I believe it because I can see it.
And I didn’t get to see it until I was allowed to.

And I also don’t think Islam,Judaism and Christianity will stop wandering after the Beast and Antichrist until His Kingdom comes..

But Muslims,Jews and Christians can.

[BipolarBob]

Here’s a clue. Put Delchiante on your ignore list. There’s no winning or reasoning with him/her. It’ll save you a lot of time and trouble. Life’s too short.

[delchiante]

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Put Delchiante on your ignore list. There’s no winning or reasoning with him/her...
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Good advice,bipolar. Can’t win or reason against Paul’s and scripture first importance of the gospel:

Passover,Unleavened Bread,First Fruits
6th Day, Sabbath,1st Day
14th,15th,16th..

Something that comes to pass every month on the Father’s calendar, that isn’t ordained by the Pope Gregory calendar..

The Pope and Beast sell another 3 days and another Jesus than Paul and the scriptures.

Buy the Truth.
Or not.

You’ve too have a lot riding on the Pope.

Good luck with that..