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[Catholic Caucus] Pope Francis: ‘I like to think of an empty hell’
LifeSite News ^ | January 15, 2024 | John-Henry Westen

Posted on 01/15/2024 3:39:08 PM PST by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] Pope Francis: ‘I like to think of an empty hell’

Pope Francis said that although 'it's not dogma,' he likes to think hell is 'empty.' Our Lord Jesus Christ and Our Lady of Fatima very clearly attest to the reality of hell, where the devil, his angels, and 'many' souls have gone.

In a Sunday interview on Italian television, Pope Francis said that he likes to think hell is empty. The statement reflects what Francis has said in numerous interviews previously on the subject, with famous atheist author Eugenio Scalfari in the left-wing newspaper La Repubblica.

In March 2015 Scalfari asked about people going to hell, and Pope Francis reportedly replied: “There is no punishment, but the annihilation of that soul. All the others will participate in the beatitude of living in the presence of the Father. The souls that are annihilated will not take part in that banquet; with the death of the body their journey is finished.”

Let’s take a look at Francis’ remarks yesterday. He said: “It’s not dogma, but my personal thing is, I like to think of an empty hell.”

Imagine I said I like to believe that cancer is just a myth, that no one suffers from cancer.

I couldn’t say that since it would make a liar out of the victims and the testimony of their suffering.

Hell is a reality according to Our Lord Jesus and the revelations of Our Lady of Fatima.

Those who say hell is empty make Jesus a liar and make a mockery of our faith, which teaches that the devil and his angels are in hell, and also those humans who reject Christ. Jesus also let it be known that Judas is in hell over and over again.

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Matthew 7:13-14: “Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the road broad that leads to destruction, and those who enter through it are many. How narrow the gate and constricted the road that leads to life. And those who find it are few.”

Luke 13:23-28: “Someone asked him, ‘Lord, will only a few people be saved?’ He answered them, ‘Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I tell you, will attempt to enter but will not be strong enough. After the master of the house has arisen and locked the door, then will you stand outside knocking and saying, ‘Lord, open the door for us.’ He will say to you in reply, ‘I do not know where you are from.’ And you will say, ‘We ate and drank in your company and you taught in our streets.’ Then he will say to you, ‘I do not know where (you) are from. Depart from me, all you evildoers!’ And there will be wailing and grinding of teeth when you see Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and all the prophets in the kingdom of God and you yourselves cast out.'”

Romans 9:27-28: “And Isaiah cries out concerning Israel, ‘Though the number of the Israelites were like the sand of the sea, only a remnant will be saved; for decisively and quickly will the Lord execute sentence upon the earth.”

John 6:70-71: “Jesus answered them, ‘Did I not choose you twelve? Yet is not one of you a devil?’ He was referring to Judas, son of Simon the Iscariot; it was he who would betray him, one of the Twelve.”

Matthew 26:24: “The Son of Man indeed goes, as it is written of him, but woe to that man by whom the Son of Man is betrayed. It would be better for that man if he had never been born.”

John 17:12: “When I was with them I protected them in your name that you gave me, and I guarded them, and none of them was lost except the son of destruction, in order that the scripture might be fulfilled.”

The reality of hell and the souls of many in it was confirmed by Our Lady at Fatima when she showed the three children the vision of hell. The children said they saw people in hell.

We saw something like a sea of fire. Plunged in this fire were the demons and the souls, as if they were red-hot coals, transparent and black or bronze-colored, with human forms, which floated about in the conflagration, borne by the flames which issued from it with clouds of smoke falling on all sides as sparks fall in great conflagrations without weight or equilibrium, among shrieks and groans of sorrow and despair that horrify and cause people to shudder with fear…

The devils were distinguished by horrible and loathsome forms of animals, frightful and unknown, but transparent like black coals that have turned red-hot. Frightened and as if we were appealing for help, we raised our eyes to our Lady who said with tenderness and sadness.

You saw hell, where the souls of poor sinners go. To save them God wishes to establish in the world the devotion to my Immaculate Heart. If they do what I will tell you, many souls will be saved, and there will be peace…

And in an interview from the 1950s with Father Riccardo Lombardi, an author who’d written a book questioning the existence of hell, Sister Lucia was asked about the possibility of an empty hell, and she told him, “No, Father, many are in hell.”

Sister Lucia had affirmed that three times for the priest, using the same term as Jesus to quantify the souls in hell: “Many.”


TOPICS: Catholic; Theology
KEYWORDS: apostatepope; channelingjohnlennon; frankenchurch; hell; heretic; hereticalfantasies; hereticsgotohell
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To: griswold3
If there is no God, no heaven, no hell, there simply is no persuasive reason to be moral.

Or immoral as well dont you think?
21 posted on 01/15/2024 4:55:13 PM PST by know.your.why (<>)
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To: ebb tide

It’s really very simple.
There is a God.
There are rules.
There are consequences if you do not follow the rules.
(Day one Hillsdale on line course)


22 posted on 01/15/2024 4:59:28 PM PST by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness. )
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To: ebb tide

I guess, since it is marked “Catholic Caucus,” a Calvinist such as myself should not post in this thread.


23 posted on 01/15/2024 5:01:55 PM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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To: ebb tide

The fewness of the saved is a long established doctrine of the Catholic Faith. Not defined ex cathedra as far as I know (likely because it was so commonly understood in the past that it never needed to be defined). Alas, we are in need of such definitions now- but the one thing the modernist heresy is very strict on is that nothing anywhere is to ever be clearly defined.


24 posted on 01/15/2024 5:08:18 PM PST by rmichaelj (Ave Maria gratia plena, Dominus tecum.)
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To: ebb tide

This demonic jackazz is a real piece of work.....


25 posted on 01/15/2024 5:08:57 PM PST by lgjhn23 ("On the 8th day, Satan created the progressive liberal to destroy all the good that God created..." )
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To: ebb tide

Anytime someone starts a sentence with “I like to think...” I immediately assume they are more interested in make believe than fact.


26 posted on 01/15/2024 5:19:42 PM PST by John Milner (Marching for Peace is like breathing for food.)
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To: bigbob

27 posted on 01/15/2024 5:21:16 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: rmichaelj
Go with the universal salvation folks and God appears unjust. Go with the traditional few saved folks and God appears unmerciful.

Create billions of souls with free will and original sin. When the vast majority end up in Hell for eternity that's not on God because they all misused their free will.

Then you end up with all the theories about levels of Hell. So, for example, if a Uighur stays true to his faith despite having his family slain and him being tortured to death by the Chicoms he gets to end up in a less hellish part of Hell because he died outside the Church but was true to his heretical beliefs.

28 posted on 01/15/2024 5:24:09 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (What is left around which to circle the wagons?)
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To: DoodleBob
There once was a Senator, Ted,
Who had a habit of driving girls dead.
When asked why this was
He could point to no cause.
As for him, he would rather be Red.
29 posted on 01/15/2024 5:28:23 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear (What is left around which to circle the wagons?)
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To: ebb tide

Dude needs to read the Bible.


30 posted on 01/15/2024 5:36:43 PM PST by Huskrrrr (Alinsky, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book!)
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To: know.your.why

Does anybody need a reason to be immoral?


31 posted on 01/15/2024 5:39:18 PM PST by SarahPalin2012
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To: ebb tide

My former Jesuit Priest explained that they think at the end of time, the Lord will empty out hell and bring all souls into his kingdom.

Fr. Altier called this B.S.


32 posted on 01/15/2024 5:57:25 PM PST by BarbM (Men who look at porn are impotent for God.)
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To: ebb tide

As long as there are beings like this poope, hell will be a busy place.


33 posted on 01/15/2024 6:01:31 PM PST by ABStrauss (I miss Rush! )
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To: ebb tide

If hell were empty, why would Jesus care so much about saving people from it? He died on the cross, because he really really didn’t want people to go to hell. That’s why, despite the popes preferences, the dogma of hell remains.


34 posted on 01/15/2024 6:05:39 PM PST by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: antidemoncrat

If Hell was empty Pope, where would all the die hard Democrats go?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Well according to the born again folks EVERYBODY goes to Hell except themselves, so if true there are countless souls falling into the abyss of fire every single minute! Therefore the Pope will have plenty of company down there!


35 posted on 01/15/2024 6:06:59 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (Biden left our troops to die in Afghanistan and our military equipment to our enemy. Never forget.)
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To: SarahPalin2012
Does anybody need a reason to be immoral?

Yup! Assuming that you are a (sane) human...you have four uniquely human endowments. The first in this case is Conscience. The other three are Creative Imagination, Self Awareness, and Independent Will. Does that answer your question?
36 posted on 01/15/2024 6:56:20 PM PST by know.your.why (<>)
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To: know.your.why

Well those are reasons to be moral. What are the reasons to be immoral?


37 posted on 01/15/2024 9:05:43 PM PST by SarahPalin2012
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To: ebb tide

Mary told the children at Fatima that the LEAST amount of people went to HEAVEN.....more went to HELL and PURGATORY.


38 posted on 01/16/2024 3:30:42 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ebb tide

Headlines
“Pope needs reality check.”


39 posted on 01/16/2024 4:16:14 AM PST by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships.)
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To: ebb tide

If there is any justice Frank will be seated in the smoking section.


40 posted on 01/16/2024 5:32:17 AM PST by verga (In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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