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3 Reasons the Magi Were Persian ie Iranians
Hormuz Shariat ^ | 22 December 2017 | Hormuz Shariat

Posted on 01/06/2024 12:27:53 AM PST by Cronos

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Not a single early Church writer calls the Magi "kings." Their journey from the East, following a magical star is in Chapter two of Matthew. Matthew's gospel was written to Jewish followers. For the Zoroastrian Magi to recognize Jesus would add to the Hebrew belief of Jesus as the Messiah. It was widely believed by the Jews that Zoroastrians prophesied three saviors to be born. The three gifts they bore may represent the gifts of "Good Thoughts, Good Words and Good Deeds" - the ancient Zoroastrian motto.

To see the Magi as "Kings" is to completely miss the importance of their visit to Jesus. It is the first time in the Christian Bible that Jesus is recognized as a "Savior." Almost any 1st Century Jew would have understood the significance of the Magi's visit. When we repeat the myth of them being kings we are taking away their importance in Mathew's gospel.

1 posted on 01/06/2024 12:27:53 AM PST by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Another thing.
Anyone wonder why that “star” led them to and then stopped over Herods castle before moving on to where Jesus was!🤔


2 posted on 01/06/2024 12:33:42 AM PST by justme4now (Our Right's are God given and I don't need permission from politicians or courts to exercise them!)
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To: Cronos

bkmk


3 posted on 01/06/2024 12:44:55 AM PST by linMcHlp
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To: Cronos

My understanding is that the Persian King would commission scholars to live in his city and he would support them in studying their culture’s wisdom. In exchange for his support, their job would be learn what they could about their culture’s wisdom and then teach the King what they learned so he would be as well rounded as he could be.

It’s entirely possible the Wise Men may have been Jewish, since they learned when and where the Messiah would be born.


4 posted on 01/06/2024 12:51:45 AM PST by Jonty30 (In a nuclear holocaust, there is always a point in time where the meat is cooked to perfection. )
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To: Cronos

The Star of Bethlehem? The MAGI EYEWITNESS Account Found in Ancient Persian Manuscript

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KjSQd0kWjo&t=2s


5 posted on 01/06/2024 2:02:54 AM PST by roving (Deplorable Listless Vessel Trumpist With Trumpitis and a Rainbow Bully)
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To: Cronos

BTTT


6 posted on 01/06/2024 2:59:00 AM PST by nopardons
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To: justme4now

There’s an old middle eastern tradition among Christians that the magi were members of a religious sect that was created centuries before during the Babylonian empire by people who were impressed with the miracles performed by Daniel and his friends. The sect, according to tradition, spent centuries pouring over the prophesies of various religions, trying to predict the next miracles. They were particularly fond of Jewish prophecies and thus the coming Messiah.


7 posted on 01/06/2024 3:20:53 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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The three kings who appear at nativity scenes is “off”.

As you said, nobody know if they were kings, or rulers of any kind.

Their journey would’ve taken months or years. That’s why when they bring gifts to Jesus, he was a “child” and lived in a “house”. He wasn’t in a manger.

Nobody knows if there were three or thirty Wise Men. There were at least two because they’re reported in the plural.

The names ... there are no names given. The names were made up in the 6th Century.


8 posted on 01/06/2024 3:48:52 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("A coward dies a thousand times before his death, but the valiant taste of death but once.")
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To: Cronos

In my opinion you are absolutely correct!


9 posted on 01/06/2024 4:12:05 AM PST by Deo et patriae (Make America Great again! rantings.)
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I think that too many people that read this are going to immediately draw a comparison to Islam and the Magi. Everyone must remember that Islam did not begin to exist for another 700 years.


10 posted on 01/06/2024 4:23:34 AM PST by know.your.why (<>)
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Technically they were Parthians.

CC


11 posted on 01/06/2024 4:35:55 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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All I know is that the wise men were not from Alabama


12 posted on 01/06/2024 4:43:12 AM PST by 2nd Amendment
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To: know.your.why

And it is a death cult and not of God.


13 posted on 01/06/2024 4:45:31 AM PST by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: Cronos

A blessed Feast of Epiphany to you.


14 posted on 01/06/2024 4:58:52 AM PST by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

The names were made up in the 6th Century.

Great. What else did man add or change in the Bible. I hate hearing this. So much for God authoring the entire Bible.


15 posted on 01/06/2024 5:05:40 AM PST by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: 2nd Amendment

They were from Brooklyn. Their name was actually “Weissman”.

CC


16 posted on 01/06/2024 5:15:51 AM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Cronos

Don’t forget the fourth wise man who was thrown out for bringing fruitcake.


17 posted on 01/06/2024 5:30:14 AM PST by Samurai_Jack (This is not about hypocrisy, this is about hierarchy!)
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To: Cronos

They came from the East - And East from Judea was then Persia. There were no Arabs in today’s Iraq then.


18 posted on 01/06/2024 5:42:43 AM PST by AZJeep
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To: Cronos

The gifts were stuff which sold well in Egypt! They were basically financing the Holly Family trip to Egypt! Willingly of not, by God’s guidance.

And, BTW, traveling from Persia (Parthia, Arsacid Empire) capital of Ctesiphon (near todays Baghdad), did not take years!
If they traveled in leisurely 10mi/day speed, it would take them less than two months.


19 posted on 01/06/2024 5:57:02 AM PST by AZJeep
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To: Celtic Conservative
They were from Brooklyn

Pitkin Ave to be exact.

20 posted on 01/06/2024 5:58:54 AM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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