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1 posted on 11/25/2023 4:22:12 AM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

See tagline.


2 posted on 11/25/2023 4:35:55 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

I am going to go out on a limb and say that penitent homosexuals may get caught up in weakness, but they never try to promote or justify the practice.


5 posted on 11/25/2023 4:58:13 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew (May I please have a government shutdown?)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Truth, (God’s word), will always be truth. To most, truth is what they make it. I don’t debate “Christians” that try to add between the lines of scripture. I believe God as His holy Spirit directs me, through His holy word.


6 posted on 11/25/2023 5:00:17 AM PST by stuckinloozeeana
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

God called it an abomination. What more needs to be said?


8 posted on 11/25/2023 5:04:25 AM PST by imabadboy99
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Here is a link to a radio podcast James White did. Vines had spoken at a church on “gay Christianity” and James White took apart his talk and examined it logically and then exegeted the “clobber passages” Vines brought up. The whole thing is very good. And prescient, even being 5 hrs in total length

https://www.aomin.org/aoblog/the-dividing-line/gay-christianity-refuted/


9 posted on 11/25/2023 5:23:41 AM PST by polishprince
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

And that is done by determining a doctrine you want to believe, and then taking verses or parts of verses out of context to support that doctrine.


11 posted on 11/25/2023 5:33:10 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

“Abomination” is pretty clear to me.


14 posted on 11/25/2023 5:47:07 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal; .45 Long Colt; Apple Pan Dowdy; BDParrish; Big Red Badger; BlueDragon; ...
People can use the bible to justify any position they want when they take words out of context, or read into the text what is not there.

Indeed. A manifest cultic example from just yesterday exposed.

On April 22, 2014, a new attack on the reliability and perspicuity of Scripture was released. “God and the Gay Christian” was a book that sought to teach readers that the Bible condones living a monogamous homosexual lifestyle. That attack continues today in the church.

It is the reading of Scripture that stands in the way of the LGBTA world, and thus the inordinate amount of labor prohomosexual polemicists expend attempting to negate its condemnation of sodomy. HOMOSEXUAL RELATIONS and the BIBLE (extensive, by the grace of God).

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Another among the minority of pro homosexuals who affirm that the Bible does condemn homosexual relations while seeking to reject such is Walter Wink, who states "I have long insisted that the issue is one of hermeneutics, and that efforts to twist the text to mean what it clearly does not say are deplorable. Simply put, the Bible is negative toward same-sex behavior, and there is no getting around it." And that "Paul wouldn't accept a loving homosexual relationship for a minute." However, he joins similar revisionists who disallow that the Bible offers a coherent sexual morality ''for today'', especially as regards homoeroticism, which teaching Wink terms “interpretative quicksand”. Instead, he joins others in asserting that people possess a right to sex that can supercede Biblical laws, and essentially proposes that sexual ethics are best determined by one's own subjective understanding of Christian love. (Walter Wink, "To hell with gays" and "the Bible and homosexuality") Daniel Helminiak's theory of ethics is similar, which Olliff and Hodges notes "is, at its very foundation, self-refuting. While he professes Christianity, he has adopted the autonomous man's position for the basis of his ethics." A Further Look at Pro-Homosexual Theology, Derrick K. Olliff and Dewey H. Hodges
Likewise, pro-homosexual author Daniel Via states, "that Scripture gives no explicit approval to same-sex intercourse. I maintain, however, that the absolute prohibition can be overridden, regardless of how many times it is stated, for there are good reasons to override it." (Dan Otto Via, Robert A. J. Gagnon, "Homosexuality and the Bible: two views," pp. 38,94) This requires the same type of discredited reasoning as Wink, and Via's opposing co-author Robert Gagnon responds by noting that Via is an absolutist about no absolutes," and while Scripture clearly manifests otherwise, by arguing that nothing is intrinsically immoral no sexual act can be categorically considered as immoral, including the consensual incestuous relationship of a man with his mother, which was so sinful that it required severe spiritual discipline. (1Cor. 5) (http://www.robgagnon.net/2vrejoinder.htm) (Homosexuality and the Bible: A Real Debate)
While few pro homosexual writers concede that the Bible is contrary to same sex behavior, virtually all reject any Biblical censure of it. Author Robin Scroggs states, “Biblical judgments against homosexuality are not relevant to today’s debate.”(Robin Scroggs, The New Testament and Homosexuality (Philadelphia: Fortress, l983) p. 127.) William M. Kent, a member of the committee assigned by United Methodists to study homosexuality, explicitly denied the inspiration of any anti-homosex passages in the Bible, and their application today. John Boswell stated, regarding the Bible, that "one must first relinquish the concept of a single book containing a uniform corpus of writings accepted as morally authoritative." (John Boswell, Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality (Chicago: The University of Chicago Press, 1980), 92) John Barton states that the Bible is "a big baggy compendium of a book, full of variety and inconsistency, sometimes mistaken on matters of fact and theology alike." (John Barton, "The Place of the Bible in Moral Debate," Theology 88 (May 1985), 206) Gary David Comstock, Protestant chaplain at Wesleyan University, termed it "dangerous" to fail to condemn the apostle Paul's condemnation of homosexual relations, and advocated removing such from the canon. (Gary David Comstock, Gay Theology Without Apology (Cleveland, OH: Pilgrim Press, 1993), p. 43. http://www.albertmohler.com/article_read.php?cid7) Episcopalian professor L. William Countryman contends, “The gospel allows no rule against the following, in and of themselves: . .. bestiality, polygamy, homosexual acts,” or “pornography.” (Dirt, Greed, and Sex (Fortress, 1988) Christine E. Gudorf flatly denies that the Bible is the primary authority for Christian ethics. (Balch, Homosexuality, Science, and the "plain Sense" of Scripture p. 121) Bishop (Ret.) John Shelby Spong denies all miracles, including the virgin conception and literal bodily resurrection of Christ, as well as the Divine inspiration of Scripture, and denies that there are any moral absolutes (Michael Bott and Jonathan Sarfati, "What’s Wrong With (Former) Bishop Spong?") and relegates the clear condemnation of homosexual relations in Romans 1 to being the product of the apostle Paul's “ill-informed, culturally biased prejudices.” (Spong, Living in Sin? A Bishop Rethinks Human Sexuality, 149-52)

17 posted on 11/25/2023 6:01:26 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

If that ain’t good’nuff; then an apparition will come alongside to help out.


25 posted on 11/25/2023 8:57:45 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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One can use the Bible to mislead even if the intent is not to mislead; because a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.


27 posted on 11/25/2023 8:59:51 AM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative)
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45 posted on 11/26/2023 3:39:33 AM PST by Bratch
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