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CCC 172 Through the centuries, in so many languages, culture, peoples, and nations, the Church has constantly confessed this one faith, received from the one Lord, transmitted by one Baptism, and grounded in the conviction that all people have only one God and Father.

CCC 177 Faith is adherence of the whole man to God who reveals himself.

CCC 18 “To believe” has thus a twofold reference to the person and to the truth: to the truth, by trust in the person who bears witness to it.

CCC 182 We believe all “that which is contained in the word of God, written or handed down, and which the Church proposes for belief as divinely revealed”.

God nor His Church forces one to believe in God’s revealed truths. If individuals or groups of Catholics believe in something contrary to God’s truths, then that is not the Deposit of Faith. We choose to believe or not to believe in God’s whole truth, whether we fully understand it.

There is a range of Catholics from saints to sinners. They are in a process to learn God’s truth. Some of the worst sinners become saints as they seek God’s Truth and learn to live it. (St Augustine for example)

The Eucharist (”Take and eat; This is My Body” and “Drink of it, all of you for this is my Blood of the covenant”) is either Jesus Christ (or not) as God and man, as He told us and the Apostles believed and offered the Eucharist at Mass and passed this down as part of the Catholic faith.


338 posted on 10/09/2023 10:21:23 AM PDT by ADSUM ( )
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To: ADSUM; metmom; daniel1212; Mark17; Elsie; boatbums
Some feedback on your post Adsum...

--> Instead of going to the authority of God's inspired Word, you are basing your eternal destiny on CCC quotes.

-->CCC 182 - We believe all that which is contained in the word of God, written or handed down, and which the Church proposes for belief as divinely revealed

Totally false. Romanism believes parts of the Scripture. If you attend Mass every time for a year, you will not even be exposed to all the Scripture. Much is left out. Much is explained away to neuter it's meaning.

--> the Church has constantly confessed this one faith, received from the one Lord

Totally false. Most key beliefs of Romanism were added multiple centuries later.

This will get you started.

300 AD - Prayers for the dead
300 AD - Making sign of the cross
320 AD - Special dress code of the clergy in worship
379 AD - Praying to Mary & Saints
416 AD - Infant baptism by immersion commanded of all infants 
​526 AD - Extreme Unction (last rites)
607 AD - First Pope: Boniface III is the first person to take the title of 
"universal Bishop" by decree of Emperor Phocas
850 AD - Burning of Holy Candles
995 AD - Canonization of dead saints, first by Pope John XV
1009 AD - Holy water
1022 AD - Penance
1215 AD - Transubstantiation by Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council
1268 AD - Priestly power of absolution- CONFESSION of sin to a priest
1414 AD - Laity no longer offered Lord's cup at communion (Council of Constance)
1439 AD - Doctrine of Seven Sacraments affirmed
1545 AD - Man-made traditions of church made equal to Bible (Council of Trent)
1546 AD - Justification by human works of merit
1854 AD - Immaculate conception of Mary
1870 AD - Infallibility of Pope (Vatican council)
1950 AD - Assumption of the body of the Virgin Mary into heaven shortly 
after her death. (Pope Pius XII)

[we don't have a written record of when Rome decided to allow homosexuality in the church as a practice]

None of this practiced by an Apostle, never appeared in practice by Christians before 100 AD when the Apostles were alive, never appears in Scripture, never taught, modeled, participated in by the first century church.

And again, we come full circle.

Do you really want to be saved??

344 posted on 10/09/2023 3:06:58 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything)
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