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John Wesley on the Ten Commandments including the Sabbath. (sorry folks, he believed in the Sabbath none of this new stuff)
Ten Commandemnts.org ^ | 1700s | John Wesley

Posted on 06/22/2023 5:52:17 PM PDT by vespa300

The sabbath begun in the finishing of the work of creation; so will the everlasting sabbath in the finishing of the work of providence and redemption; and we observe the weekly sabbath in expectation of that, as well as in remembrance of the former, in both conforming ourselves to him we worship. He hath himself blessed the sabbath day and sanctified it. He hath put an honour upon it; it is holy to the Lord, and honourable; and he hath put blessings into it which he hath encouraged us to expect from him in the religious observation of that day. Let us not profane, dishonour, and level that with common time, which God's blessing hath thus dignified and distinguished.

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TOPICS: Apologetics
KEYWORDS: commandments; pharisees; wesley
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To: vespa300

Don’t make it too complicated. Just read Romans 14.


21 posted on 06/22/2023 7:46:00 PM PDT by lurk (u)
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To: vespa300
Well for what it's worth in 1970, I heard a roaming Evangelical preacher with his family standing in front of a small town Baptist Church congregation one Sunday, pray to God to send all the Africans back to Africa.

Our family was visiting there for the first time as a gesture to the family of her thankfully now ex-husband, soon after my sister was married.   If I hadn't just turned 17, I like to think I would have walked out.   My sister's ex later on spent years in prison for raping his stepdaughter.   Her marriage didn't last but a couple of years after her ex got hooked on heroin in Viet Nam.

I don't have a very high regard for so called Evangelical preachers.

I also see your point.

22 posted on 06/22/2023 7:51:01 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: vespa300

And, The whole world observing the same day for Sabbath would fulfill -

“The whole earth is at rest”


23 posted on 06/22/2023 7:52:40 PM PDT by conserv8
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To: vespa300

Not to be blunt but Gentiles aren’t part of the covenant. So there is no obligation for you to follow the law.

Now, is it a good idea? Probably. It’s valuable to all.

But the laws required of gentiles are the Noahdic laws, which exclude Shabbos as a requirement. (In general, they are otherwise largely overlapping on moral issues.)


24 posted on 06/22/2023 8:42:04 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: vespa300

“The Lord’s Day” to which the catechism refers is Sunday, not Saturday. Christians have no special obligation to observe Saturday; it’s part of the ceremonial Mosaic Law.


25 posted on 06/22/2023 9:31:28 PM PDT by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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To: vespa300

Read Romans 14:5-6.


26 posted on 06/22/2023 10:01:29 PM PDT by TopDog2 (Onward Christian soldiers)
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To: vespa300

Col 2:16
New King James Version
So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths,

I’ll just toss this one into the mixing pot.

Actually, I believe we are in the 7th day (a day is like 1000 years), and every Earth day is part of this continual Sabbath (day of REST).


27 posted on 06/23/2023 12:06:45 PM PDT by Scrambler Bob
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To: madison10
Sabbath is not just a day of the week. It is a state of worship/mind: A day set aside to worship God.

Says who?

"Remember the Sabbath Day to keep it holy" is a directive to corporate worship with the rest of one's faith community. He didn't say, "Any day will do..."

We are of course to pray and be in communion with the Holy Spirit all day, every day. But the Commandment is about one Holy day set aside for one's blood family and faith family, and the Lord's Supper with those gathered—a day different from the rest.

28 posted on 06/23/2023 3:27:47 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (“There is no good government at all & none possible.”--Mark Twain)
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To: Campion

——>Saturday; it’s part of the ceremonial Mosaic Law.

No, it’s part of the Moral 10 commandment law, of which Christ specifically said to REMEMBER.


29 posted on 06/23/2023 5:36:09 PM PDT by Philsworld (Saints are saints and angels are angels, except when they're called saints. )
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To: Albion Wilde

The problem is when is THE Sabbath?


30 posted on 06/23/2023 5:36:31 PM PDT by madison10
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To: madison10
The problem is when is THE Sabbath?

If you have researched the fundamental beliefs of your denomination and have accepted and affirmed those tenets, then follow what your denomination (or your strain of Catholicism or Orthodox) does, since the family/congregaton aspect is a key part of a Sabbath whenever possible, especially if you are a faith leader for your children.

If you are still a “cafeteria Christian”, try studying the New Testament chapters that make references to the Sabbath. It hass become easier to do now that the Bible and keywords are widely available free online. Doing so may lead you to on your path to feeling assurance in a denominational home. Find a Statement of Beliefs or a catechism that you believe is most worthy not because of personalities or amenities but because of doctrine.

31 posted on 06/23/2023 6:14:27 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (“There is no good government at all & none possible.”--Mark Twain)
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To: montag813
Ok...then no tattoos either for Christians.

I thought that was obvious.
32 posted on 06/23/2023 6:17:39 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: madison10
Sabbath is not just a day of the week. It is a state of worship/mind: A day set aside to worship God.

That’s an easy, convenient cop-out. Defining your own “Sabbath” is like defining your own “gender.”

33 posted on 06/23/2023 7:16:42 PM PDT by fwdude (Conservatism isn't just an ingredient you can add to a sh*t stew & call it good. It's comprehensive.)
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To: fwdude

Hardly. Worlds apart. Better to have a midweek Sabbath than none at all. Everyone cannot get off of work Saturday and Sunday.


34 posted on 06/23/2023 7:31:42 PM PDT by madison10
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