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Marjorie Taylor Greene: I Was Raised Catholic, but Wicked Bishops Have ‘Driven Me Away’ from the Church
LifeSite News ^ | 5/4/22 | Claire Chretien

Posted on 05/13/2022 6:01:41 PM PDT by marshmallow

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To: Luircin

That’s it, brother. Anything else is going beyond Scripture, and surely sets up one to be duped. Also, as cults tend to do, when a person is discouraged from asking questions about the cult’s beliefs, they should run. Immediately.


2,621 posted on 06/19/2022 6:54:51 AM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Help America!)
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To: SouthernClaire

I am watching Phil Johnson, on Ellen G White. Not everything she said was bad, but she essentially claimed to write scripture. That is utter hogwash. That’s false doctrine, and it’s blasphemy. No wonder the people leave the SDA all the time. The problem is, when they leave, usually, they leave anything spiritual and become agnostic. Not good.


2,622 posted on 06/19/2022 7:36:43 AM PDT by Mark17 (Retired USAF air traffic controller. Father of USAF pilot. USAF aviation runs in the family )
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To: Mark17

Yeah, the part about becoming agnostic was also in the other video I watched yesterday. Speaker said they were already set up to do that very thing should they leave the SDA. I thought about it a while and came to the conclusion that it’s almost certainly proof they were never saved to begin with. You can walk away from a cult, but you can’t just walk away from Our Heavenly Father if you’re in Christ Jesus. Doesn’t wash.

About Ellen G. White. She put her writings above the writings of Paul, for certain, is all I know on that particular note at this time. That’s putting one’s self above the person GOD chose and thereby above God’s own words. I wouldn’t dare.

Also, since Paul was the Apostle to the Gentiles, it makes sense if your EGW to attack his epistles and not the Hebrew epistles which are the ones she uses to fool the gullible who don’t know the difference between Israel, Spiritual Israel and the Church. Notice the heavy leaning on the Book of Hebrews, for instance, for the con to work.


2,623 posted on 06/19/2022 7:44:43 AM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Help America!)
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To: Philsworld

—-> People who believe in OSAS, can’t sin after Grace

Absolutely a false statement


2,624 posted on 06/19/2022 8:52:41 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Nowhere have I ever heard of a person who believes in the security of the believer state that they cannot sin after being saved.

Cultists love to misrepresent what Christians believe as a reason for rejecting it.

That isn’t the first time I’ve seen that happen and doubt it will be the last.


2,625 posted on 06/19/2022 9:47:59 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: Philsworld

Happened upon your post. I have not used foul language, just told the truth about your cult and your blindness to the Gospel of Grace. Not surprising you would lie about that since the spirit directing your soul is source int he father of lies.


2,626 posted on 06/19/2022 9:54:14 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: metmom

1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.


2,627 posted on 06/19/2022 9:57:24 AM PDT by Seven_0 (You cannot fool all of the people, ever!)
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To: metmom

—> Cultists love to misrepresent

I corrected him once before.

He continues to distort the truth…


2,628 posted on 06/19/2022 10:11:31 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: Seven_0

Actually 1 John 3:9 says…..

No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.

The Greek says it’s continuing to sin or practicing sinning.

https://biblehub.com/text/1_john/3-9.htm

1 John 1:7-10 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin. If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

In the flesh, we still all sin. The reborn spirit of the believer is the part that does not and cannot sin. But the believers will not continue to sin wantonly. Someone with the Spirit of Christ dwelling in them desires to live a holy life and will struggle with sin.

So do you think you never sin any more?


2,629 posted on 06/19/2022 10:12:52 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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To: metmom; Seven_0

The seeming disjunction centers upon distinguishing between soul and spirit. Before being born again the spirit is sequestered in/with the soul, the behavior mechanism. Once one is born again, born from above, God has separated the soul and spirit so that His Spirit can abide in the newborn spirit in the righteousness of Christ. The flesh continues to sin, hopefully less and less as the Christian matures, but the spirit which God has separated from the flesh has The Spirit of God abiding therein and cannot sin because the seed of GOD is abiding therein and God cannot sin or hold His Presence among sin. And God is not a yoyo that comes and goes and comes again into the spirit. Cults focus upon the soul not the spirit. Seven_0 is not a cultist.


2,630 posted on 06/19/2022 10:34:24 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Seven_0

Literal Greek

1 John 3:10 ():

“Everyone who has been born out of God with the present result that he is a born-one of God does not habitually commit sin because His seed remains in him. And he is not able habitually to sin, because out of God he has been born with the present result that he is a born-one of God.

“In this is apparent who are the born-ones of God and the born-ones of the devil. Everyone who is not habitually doing righteousness is not of God, also the one who is not habitually loving his brother [Christian] with a divine and self-sacrificial love.


2,631 posted on 06/19/2022 11:06:36 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: Philsworld

People who believe in OSAS, can’t sin after Grace, and the PTR, by definition, do not know how to interpret the Word of God (only one sentence from me, Bro, easy to read).

***

Mister strawman, give me a break.
Just shut your piehole, for goodness’ sake.
Are you just stupid or have you been drinking?
No one is convinced by this; what are you thinking?

Strawman, I can’t stand it when
You spew it over and over again
How much can a person take?
Mister strawman, give me a break!


2,632 posted on 06/19/2022 11:38:20 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: Luircin

Mr. Luircin, dear brother of mine
While I appreciate your effort and time,
I see you’re asking a cultist to cease lying,
Know that the cultist will not be obliging

He has well been trained to stay on track
The SDAer repeating their smack
To keep Miss Ellen’s tricks covered up
He must oft repeat the lies of his cult

We pray and we pray for him and the rest
To get themselves a Bible and take the test
To see once and for all just who is right,
Will they choose God or stay with Miss White?


2,633 posted on 06/19/2022 12:01:21 PM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Help America!)
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To: antceecee

Back atcha!

Matthew 7:2
For with the same judgment you pronounce, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.


2,634 posted on 06/19/2022 12:06:52 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

I think there may be a subject, unspoken of just yet, that may be in a certain person’s life.

When we finally get around to that, I think the response will be, “Who are you to judge me?”


2,635 posted on 06/19/2022 12:12:08 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Luircin

No mirrors at home.


2,636 posted on 06/19/2022 12:13:11 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

Ain’t pig-wrestling FUN!!


2,637 posted on 06/19/2022 12:14:40 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SouthernClaire; metmom
That’s my thinking on it also, Metmom.

There is really no need to do much thinking - if you can READ!


 2 Corinthians 1:13 niv

For we do not write you anything you cannot read or understand.

2,638 posted on 06/19/2022 12:19:03 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Luircin

I’ll stick with what Scripture actually says instead of an ‘interpretation’ that claims that it means the exact opposite of what it actually says.
 
 
I'll bet you don't...
 
 
 


Galatians 3

Faith or Works of the Law
1 You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. 2 I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by believing what you heard? 3 Are you so foolish? After beginning by means of the Spirit, are you now trying to finish by means of the flesh? 4 Have you experienced so much in vain—if it really was in vain? 5 So again I ask, does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you by the works of the law, or by your believing what you heard? 6 So also Abraham “believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.”

7 Understand, then, that those who have faith are children of Abraham. 8 Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: “All nations will be blessed through you.” 9 So those who rely on faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

10 For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.” 11 Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.” 12 The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, “The person who does these things will live by them.” 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.” 14 He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.

2,639 posted on 06/19/2022 12:22:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

And there we have it.

Very good, Elsie.


2,640 posted on 06/19/2022 12:25:29 PM PDT by SouthernClaire (God Help America!)
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