Marjorie Taylor Greene: I Was Raised Catholic, but Wicked Bishops Have ‘Driven Me Away’ from the Church

LifeSite News ^ | 5/4/22 | Claire Chretien

[marshmallow]

‘Mrs. Greene's statement about leaving the Church is as enlightening as it is saddening,’ commented Michael Hichborn, president of the Lepanto Institute.

(LifeSiteNews) – Following criticism of comments she made about the U.S. Catholic bishops, conservative firebrand U.S. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene revealed that she was raised Catholic but left the Church “with great sorrow” when she had kids because she had concerns about the left-wing hierarchy protecting abusive priests.

“With great sorrow, and unwavering faith in Jesus Christ, I stopped attending Catholic Mass when I became a mother, because I realized that I could not trust the Church’s leadership to protect my children from pedophiles, and that they harbored monsters even in their own ranks,” the now-evangelical said in a lengthy statement.

The Georgia Republican was responding to the Catholic League’s Bill Donahue, who slammed her for suggesting in an interview with Church Militant’s Michael Voris that “Satan is controlling the Church.”

“The Church is not doing its job. And it’s not adhering to the teachings of Christ,” she added.

“It’s the Church leadership I was referring to when I invoked the Devil,” Greene clarified on Twitter. “Just so we’re clear, bishops, when I said ‘controlled by Satan,’ I wasn’t talking about the Catholic Church. I was talking about you.”

“The Catholic Church must throw out these monsters instead of lecturing the people its own bishops have driven away,” she continued, blasting the U.S. Catholic bishops as “some of the worst in the world” and “scheming bureaucrats in miters.” It was the “bishops’ wickedness” that drove her out of the Church, Greene said, and her own refusal to “submit the spiritual and physical livelihood of my children to these monsters.”

Greene, who is sometimes referred to as “MTG” (à la “AOC”), went on to say what many faithful Catholics who.......

[Mark17]

Dude...we'll just have to respectfully disagree...

Yes we will. You are a Catholic, I am not. I am comfortable with that. I hope you make it.

[Texas_Guy]

Judas did. Peter did and Repented.

Why is it that Protestants don’t know any history?

Everything true you got from us. You didn’t exist before Mad Marty began his rebellion.

[stanne]

I am finished with this conversation. It is not logical and it wastes my time

MTG said she quit the church because of bad people. Period

[aMorePerfectUnion]

Everything true you got from us. You didn’t exist before Mad Marty began his rebellion.

Everything authoritative came from God, via the Holy Spirit inspiring men to write Scripture.

2/3 of Scripture was written before the birth of Christ.

Doing some envelope math, God's Truth existed before blessed saint Father Martin Luther.

[metmom]

I have challenged FRoman FReepers in the past to focus only on Jesus for a whole month. No Mary, no saints, no angels. Just Jesus only.

You’d have thought I was asking them to sacrifice their firstborn to Molech, they were so mortified at even the thought of such an action.

That speaks volumes about what Catholics really think about Mary.

[MHGinTN]

You are 'technically' correct in that Agustine was extending the teaching by Origen and Philo. Cairn puts it this way: " There was no place in his (Augustine's) eschatology for the Jews or a future earthly kingdom. He (Augustine) can be credited with the final shattering of the premillennial system of the ante-Nicene church, and his views (the allegorical approach) on eschatology became the accepted view until the Reformation"

With Augusxtine's 'City of God', the allegorizing methodology gradually became entrenched, in my opinion and that of not a few scholars. The amellenial perspective endures to this day in Catholicism.

[MHGinTN]

The History of the early Ekklesia did not begin post Nicea.

[NorthStarOkie]

As always, you are spot on.
I learn so much from your comments.

It is interesting to discern the nature of the Lord’s church in the Bible.
Were we to visit one, we would find that
...each congregation was independent; no hierarchy.
...each congregation was lead by elders.
...the elders were men, as were the deacons and preachers.
...members of the congregation led prayers
...preachers were not necessarily clergy, just souls who know the Word.
...members were believers who confessed their faith, who repented and who were immersed [baptized] as adults.
...the congregation met for worship on Sunday.
...the Lord’s Supper was celebrated each Sunday.
...worship in Spirit and truth (truth being congruent with scripture.)

What we would not find...
...altars.
...clergy.
...man-made tradition as doctrine.
...instrumental musical instruments.
...celebration of Christmas and Easter.
...a scripted worship service.
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There were four “denominations” in Corinth: Paul’s, Peter’s; Apollos’ and the Lord’s church. Paul condemns three of them. He teaches that the human founder of a denomination must be the one who is crucified for the sins of the members. The implication is that any Christian congregation that was founded by a man is a counterfeit and impotent to save.

[StAnDeliver]

Dude, her eyes are this far <-><-> apart. She could use another chromosome...

[delchiante]

Quote
‘Take Mary out of the picture and YOU HAVE NO CHRIST.

Promise 1 from Mary. Whoever shall faithfully serve me by the recitation of the Rosary shall receive signal graces.

Jesus
“Hence from me Satan. It is written You shall worship YHWH your Elohim, and only Him shall you serve’..

Maybe this Mary of Rome is a counterfeit sent by Satan.
To point to Satan’s counterfeit Jesus..

That’s not a pleasant thought for Mother Church or her harlot daughters..

Take this Mary out and this Mary’s Jesus goes away too..

And so does Rome’s teachings about this Mary and this Jesus..

That’s the path the world needs to be on.
Path to Truth that Satan’s lies can’t overcome

The Passover Lamb path.
The Unleavened Bread path
The First Fruits path

Not the December 25 path
Nor the false goddess frigg day path
Nor the false goddess saturn path
Not the false god sun path

That’s a path that leaves Rome in the dust. And the Mother Church. And her harlot daughters. And leaves Islam and Judaism in the dust too..
That’s the path to the Way,Truth and Life. That’s the path to the first chief importance of the gospel

In accordance with the scriptures path.
The Word Made Flesh path.

Murphs, you ready to go down that path to Truth?

[fishtank]

I use the NT definition.

Rome never seems to have heeded Paul’s letter to them (Romans), or Galatians, anyway.

[fishtank]

They don’t have a “power”.

Their attitude is sufficient.

Rome hates the Bible, always seeking to supplant it.

[Albion Wilde]

Judas did. Peter did and Repented. Why is it that Protestants don’t know any history? Everything true you got from us. You didn’t exist before Mad Marty began his rebellion.

You are plain out of your mind. And your depth.

I was pointing out the other poster's false equivalence of bishops and priests being tempted by Satan as being the same as Jesus being tempted. Surely you do not equate Judas or even Peter with Jesus Christ.

Or do you? Catholics rate last in Biblical knowledge, according to statistical surveys.

[Albion Wilde]

MTG said she quit the church because of bad people. Period

On that we do agree.

[metmom]

You’ve been thoroughly brainwashed.

Scripture existed outside the existence of Roman Catholicism for thousands of years.

The Jews had it, and most of Scripture, including the NT was written by Jews.

Catholicism has zero legitimate claim for giving the world the Word of God.

[Texas_Guy]

Yep lots and lots and lots of writings. The Church picked which ones were scripture based on her teachings. You can see these so called lost books of the Bible at any bookstore. You need an authority to choose which ones are scripture.

Check out the first printed Bible. It’s a Catholic Bible.

So why did Mad Marty cut the ones he disagreed with?

Sounds like you may be a little brainwashed. Look up the history of the canon of the Bible for yourself.

[MurphsLaw]

I use the NT definition

Well Fishy...
The Catholic definition used is different-
and, The Council of Trent uses a Catholic definition-
Regardless however someone would want to interpret it.

From the Catholic Encyclopedia:

In the New Testament anathema no longer entails death, but the loss of goods or exclusion from the society of the faithful. St. Paul frequently uses this word in the latter sense.
In the Epistle to the Romans (9:3) he says: "For I wished myself to be an anathema from Christ, for my brethren, who are my kinsmen according to the flesh",
i.e. "I should wish to be separated and rejected of Christ, if by that means I would procure the salvation of my brethren." And again, using the word in the same sense, he says
(Galatians 1:9): "If any one preach to you a gospel besides that which you have received, let him be anathema."
But he who is separated from God is united to the devil, which explains why St. Paul, instead of anathematizing,
sometimes delivers a person over to Satan (1 Timothy 1:20; 1 Corinthians 5:5).

Anathema signifies also to be overwhelmed with maledictions, as in
1 Corinthians 16:22: "If any man love not our Lord Jesus Christ, let him be anathema." At an early date the Church adopted the word anathema to signify the exclusion of a sinner from the society of the faithful; but the anathema was pronounced chiefly against heretics. All the councils, from the Council of Nicæa to that of the Vatican, have worded their dogmatic canons: "If any one says . . .
let him be anathema".
Nevertheless, although during the first centuries the anathema did not seem to differ from the sentence of excommunication,
beginning with the sixth century a distinction was made between the two. A Council of Tours desires that after three warnings there be recited in chorus Psalm cviii against the usurper of the goods of the Church,
that he may fall into the curse of Judas, and "that he may be not only excommunicated, but anathematized, and that he may be stricken by the sword of Heaven".
This distinction was introduced into the canons of the Church, as is proved by the letter of John VIII (872-82) found in the Decree of Gratian (c. III, q. V, c. XII):
"Know that Engeltrude is not only under the ban of excommunication, which separates her from the society of the brethren,
but under the anathema, which separates from the body of Christ, which is the Church."
This distinction is found in the earliest Decretals, in the chapter Cum non ab homine. In the same chapter, the tenth of Decretals II, tit. i, Celestine III (1191-98), speaking of the measures it is necessary to take in proceeding against a cleric guilty of theft, homicide, perjury, or other crimes, says:
"If, after having been deposed from office, he is incorrigible, he should first be excommunicated; but if he perseveres in his contumacy he should be stricken with the sword of anathema; but if plunging to the depths of the abyss, he reaches the point where he despises these penalties, he should be given over to the secular arm."
At a late period, Gregory IX (1227-41), bk. V, tit. xxxix, ch. lix, Si quem, distinguishes minor excommunication, or that implying exclusion only from the sacraments, from major excommunication,
implying exclusion from the society of the faithful. He declares that it is major excommunication which is meant in all texts in which mention is made of excommunication.
Since that time there has been no difference between major excommunication and anathema, except the greater or less degree of ceremony in pronouncing the sentence of excommunication.

Anathema remains a major excommunication which is to be promulgated with great solemnity.
A formula for this ceremony was drawn up by Pope Zachary (741-52) in the chapter Debent duodecim sacerdotes, Cause xi, quest. iii. The Roman Pontifical reproduces it in the chapter Ordo excommunicandi et absolvendi,
distinguishing three sorts of excommunication: minor excommunication, formerly incurred by a person holding communication with anyone under the ban of excommunication;
major excommunication, pronounced by the Pope in reading a sentence; and anathema,
or the penalty incurred by crimes of the gravest order, and solemnly promulgated by the Pope. In passing this sentence, the pontiff is vested in amice, stole, and a violet cope,
wearing his mitre, and assisted by twelve priests clad in their surplices and holding lighted candles. He takes his seat in front of the altar or in some other suitable place, amid pronounces the formula of anathema which ends with these words:
"Wherefore in the name of God the All-powerful, Father, Son, and Holy Ghost,
of the Blessed Peter, Prince of the Apostles,
and of all the saints, in virtue of the power which has been given us of binding and loosing in Heaven and on earth,
we deprive N-- himself and all his accomplices and all his abettors of the Communion of the Body and Blood of Our Lord, we separate him from the society of all Christians,
we exclude him from the bosom of our Holy Mother the Church in Heaven and on earth,
we declare him excommunicated and anathematized and we judge him condemned to eternal fire with Satan and his angels and all the reprobate, so long as he will not burst the fetters of the demon, do penance and satisfy the Church; we deliver him to Satan to mortify his body, that his soul may be saved on the day of judgment." Whereupon all the assistants respond:
"Fiat, fiat, fiat." The pontiff and the twelve priests then cast to the ground the lighted candles they have been carrying, and notice is sent in writing to the priests and neighbouring bishops of the name of the one who has been excommunicated and the cause of his excommunication, in order that they may have no communication with him.
Although he is delivered to Satan and his angels, he can still, and is even bound to repent. The Pontifical gives the form for absolving him and reconciling him with the Church.
The promulgation of the anathema with such solemnity is well calculated to strike terror to the criminal and bring him to a state of repentance, especially if the Church adds to it the ceremony of the Maranatha.

At the end of the first Epistle to the Corinthians, xvi, 22, St. Paul says,
"If any man love not our Lord Jesus Christ, let him be anathema, maranatha," which means, "The Lord is come."
But commentators have regarded this expression as a formula of excommunication very severe among the Jews.
This opinion, however, is not sustained by Vigouroux, "Dict. de la Bible" (s.v. Anathème). In the Western Church, Maranatha has become a very solemn formula as anathema, by which the criminal is excommunicated, abandoned to the judgment of God, and rejected from the bosom of the Church until the coming of the Lord.
An example of such an anathema is found in these words of Pope Silverius (536-38): "If anyone henceforth deceives a bishop in such a manner, let him be anathema maranatha before God and his holy angels."
Benedict XIV (1740-58--De Synodo dioecesana X, i) cites the anathema maranatha formulated by the Fathers of the Fourth Council of Toledo against those who were guilty of the crime of high treason:
"He who dares to despise our decision, let him be stricken with anathema maranatha, i.e. may he be damned at the coming of the Lord, may he have his place with Judas Iscariot, he and his companions. Amen."
There is frequent mention of this anathema maranatha in the Bulls of erection for abbeys and other establishments. Still the anathema maranatha is a censure from which the criminal may be absolved;
although he is delivered to Satan and his angels, the Church, in virtue of the Power of the Keys, can receive him once more into the communion of the faithful. More than that, it is with this purpose in view that she takes such rigorous measures against him, in order that by the mortification of his body his soul may be saved on the last day. The Church, animated by the spirit of God, does not wish the death of the sinner, but rather that he be converted and live. This explains why the most severe and terrifying formulas of
excommunication, containing all the rigours of the Maranatha have, as a rule, clauses like this:
Unless he becomes repentant, or gives satisfaction, or is corrected.

[mdmathis6]

“Any Catholic or Orthodox Christian who knows his faith recognizes that assumption for what it is, and rejects it immediately.”

So you bring in the Orthodox in support of your defense of uniquely Catholic practises and beliefs? Weren’t we discussing the presumed failures of the Catholic church and not the Orthodox?

It’s interesting that given the points of dissention between Catholics and Protestants that the Orthodox don’t jump in on the Catholics’ side nor do Orthodox or Protestants argue very much with each other. Oh I’m sure there are disagreements between P’s and O’s but both are “P-O’ed” with catholics of late.

[Luircin]

Catholicism didn’t even have an imfallible canon until after Luther.

Look it up; that’s historical fact.

Credit Martin Luther for the canon of Scripture; he’s the one who assembled the Bible.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

—> Catholicism didn’t even have an imfallible canon until after Luther.

Look it up; that’s historical fact.

Credit Martin Luther for the canon of Scripture; he’s the one who assembled the Bible.

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