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A Masterpiece on the Immaculate Conception
The Catholic Thing ^ | December 8th, 2021 | Michael Pakaluk

Posted on 12/08/2021 2:19:08 PM PST by MurphsLaw

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“No one can add to revelation. That was given once for all; – but as time goes on,
what was given once for all is understood more and more clearly.”


St. Cdl. John Henry Newman
1 posted on 12/08/2021 2:19:08 PM PST by MurphsLaw
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To: MurphsLaw

Yes we should spend hours and hours and hours discussing whether or not Mary was a virgin. And then more hours, and then more hours.

Because this will solve all the worlds problems. There is Nothing More important to discuss.


2 posted on 12/08/2021 2:23:39 PM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: MurphsLaw

A person who believes Immaculate Conception is a dunce.


3 posted on 12/08/2021 2:29:35 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Mr. K
Today is not about the Virgin Birth as you may think, rather when the Virgin was conceived as an infant.
This confusion alone, warrants discussion.
4 posted on 12/08/2021 2:36:47 PM PST by MurphsLaw ("Behold a virgin shall be with child, and bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel")
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Happily wearing my dunce cap here....


5 posted on 12/08/2021 2:49:48 PM PST by moonhawk (Biden: Not my President. Fauci: not my doctor. Me: not their bitch. You:???)
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To: MurphsLaw

The girls of my generation got pregnant from the toilet seat.


6 posted on 12/08/2021 2:59:35 PM PST by ryderann
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To: MurphsLaw

Good point. The “Immaculate Conception” refers to Mary. Because she was completely free of sin — immaculate — she was deemed worthy of carrying and giving (virgin) birth to Jesus. In Spanish she’s “La Immaculata.” But yeah, it’s probably pointless even to discuss such niceties.


7 posted on 12/08/2021 3:22:46 PM PST by Blurb2350 (posted from my 1500-watt blow dryer)
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To: MurphsLaw
If there is no difficulty in saying that Eve was created without sin – if there is no risk of turning her into a deity – what is the great difficulty in saying that Mary was created without sin?

I was thinking about this today. Maybe our Protestant friends choose not to believe all Catholicism teaches about Mary but I do not understand the hostility. Won't we all be without sin in heaven? Why couldn't God create a human without original sin to bear His Son? Why wouldn't He? It is in fact appropriate for Him to do so.

8 posted on 12/08/2021 3:28:41 PM PST by viewfromthefrontier
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To: ryderann

That was boys and syphilis. Always the toilet seat.


9 posted on 12/08/2021 3:34:33 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (OUT of Facebook Jail! But for how long?)
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To: moonhawk

Me too.

Deplorably duncing my way through life...


10 posted on 12/08/2021 3:36:21 PM PST by one guy in new jersey
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To: Jan_Sobieski

“A person who believes Immaculate Conception is a dunce.”

Is any faith an act of stupidity? Or only the things you don’t believe.


11 posted on 12/08/2021 3:53:39 PM PST by PTBAA
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To: viewfromthefrontier
Maybe our Protestant friends choose not to believe all Catholicism teaches about Mary but I do not understand the hostility

Other than the fact that catholicism and all that it professes is a perversion and heresy of Christianity, and that it's filled with paganism and it turns all it's petitioners into lazy mislead sheep, we're fine with it.

12 posted on 12/08/2021 4:00:44 PM PST by Bullish (This is the most bloated and most inept govt in history.)
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To: PTBAA

Duns Scotus wrote the defense of “Immaculate Conception.” For his illogic, he earned the term “Dunce”


13 posted on 12/08/2021 4:25:43 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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Hail Mary,
Full of grace
The Lord is with thee
Blessed art thou amongst women
And blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus
Holy Mary, Mother of God
Pray for us sinners
Now and at the hour of our death

Amen

https://www.catholic.com/tract/immaculate-conception-and-assumption


14 posted on 12/08/2021 6:04:14 PM PST by Texas_Guy
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To: Mr. K

If Mary remained a virgin, then that means poor Joseph her husband was too.


15 posted on 12/08/2021 6:12:48 PM PST by Old Yeller (1776 em all. Let God sort it out.)
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To: viewfromthefrontier

Because Mary is so associated with the Holy Catholic Church, and the only thing Protestants agree on is that they think the church is wrong.


16 posted on 12/08/2021 6:14:37 PM PST by Texas_Guy
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Who’s the woman that embittered your heart?


17 posted on 12/08/2021 6:35:25 PM PST by Grey182 (Trump won, Benedict is still Pope & Jeffery Epstein didn't kill himself.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
A person who believes Immaculate Conception is a dunce.

Well, I don't believe that Immaculate Conception is a dunce. I believe it's a traditional understanding of Our Lady's nature that was defined as dogma in I think 1854.

But your excellent handle has me wondering: Jan Sobieski is renowned as a Catholic King who saved Europe. By his time, the feast of the Immaculate Conception was widely celebrated as a feast day. Do you have reason to think he was a dunce? Or that he didn't believe that Our Lady was conceived without original sin?

18 posted on 12/08/2021 6:40:39 PM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Were you in D.C. this past Sunday night?

Man Attacks DC Basilica’s Our Lady of Fatima Statue by Cutting Off Hands, Hammering Face

19 posted on 12/08/2021 6:45:08 PM PST by ebb tide (Where are the good fruits of the Second Vatican Council? Anyone?)
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To: MurphsLaw

Do you spend a lot of time searching for articles to stir the pot with “Protestants”?


20 posted on 12/08/2021 7:41:37 PM PST by boatbums (Lord, make my life a testimony to the value of knowing you.)
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