Good point. The “Immaculate Conception” refers to Mary. Because she was completely free of sin — immaculate — she was deemed worthy of carrying and giving (virgin) birth to Jesus. In Spanish she’s “La Immaculata.” But yeah, it’s probably pointless even to discuss such niceties.
It is Rome that generated confusion.
The Book Rome assembled so long ago says ALL have sinned...
Trying to move the goalposts AFTER this was published kinda gives away the game!
Two sinners (Marys parents) got it on and produced Mary (a sinner herself).
She then 'knew no man' when the Holy Spirit overshadowed her.
The Son of GOD took on human flesh (the nasty stuff) and was laid in a manger after being born.
Eight days later a chunk of that flesh was cut off; as it counted for nothing.
Add or subtract from this story at your own peril.
Yes, something we CAN NEVER KNOW deserves hours and hours of discussion, instead of - oh, let’s say... helping the poor, and guiding those in need.
While we argue impossibilities among ourselves evil is taking over the world.