Posted on 02/25/2021 8:31:53 PM PST by GardenerForLife
You have to consider all of scripture. If those were the only references I’d think you have a point.
But from genesis 1 on we see the trinity. The Father is God. The Son is God. The Holy Spirit is God. Yet there is only one God. The trinity is the word we use to express this rather than using 20 words, that’s all.
The article says they don’t know much about Linus at all.
Christ is the leader of the church. Period. It is His church. He is it’s head. At no time was Peter, or any man the head of the church. At no time.
Hmmm, I guess my old-fashioned inner pedant needs an update. :-)
That's not what it means at all. The seventh day, the sabbath, was part of the ONLY written record they had.
God made the 7th day holy and rested as an example to his people:
Gen 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished.
Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done.
Gen 2:3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.
And Exodus 20 tells us why it was created for man:
Exo 20:8 "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work,
Exo 20:10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates.
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
It wasn't changed. It was the same holy 7th day.
Mark chapter 2 concerns extra rigid rules imposed on the Sabbath by the Pharisees...so strict that a hungry man couldn't eat grain off the bush because it was like "work". A whole bunch goes into it...hypocrisy, judgementalism, etc etc..
He then makes his point:
Mar 2:27 And He said to them, "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.
The sabbath was made for man to enjoy and relax...NOT to get in trouble for following hypocritical rules.
And THEN he puts the final stamp on it:
Mar 2:28 Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath."
He tells them he IS the Lord who MADE the sabbath so it's God's authority over the sabbath and not the Pharisees.
However he NEVER denigrates, puts down, or alters the sabbath. Your viewpoint is simply a viewpoint used by modern Christianity to get away from observing God's sabbath.
I posted two scriptures as representative examples. There are certainly more that prove the point....much more so than any points about the modern trinity theory. We can even extend that into the natural world...2 sexes....2 people make 1....two halves of the body make one....etc etc.
>> "That statement of course begs the question on which the entire Congress and the state legislatures and the Supreme Court have been stalled for years,.." -William F. Buckley
> In an article about John Kerry's pro choice remarks, William F. Buckley used "begs the question" in the same context that I do.
Actually, I'll disagree and say that a careful reading of WFB's sentence shows that he is using it in the original "logical fallacy" sense.
He's saying that "That statement" assumes the answer to a question that has stalled (and therefore is not answered), so that's the logical error of the original meaning.
Yes, that's how I've always understood it, and that's its original and first meaning.
But as GardenerForLife pointed out later ($47), the phrase has been misapplied to mean "suggesting the question" so often in modern usage, that even Merriam-Webster has thrown in the towel and allowed the "incorrect" usage as a legit alternate.
So I guess I'll broaden my horizon and accept that the definition has changed to be more "inclusive".
It still sets my teeth on edge to read it or hear it, but now that's my problem. :-)
Thanks to GardenerForLife for the update in #47, although on careful reading, the WFB quote does in fact use the phrase in its original "logical fallacy" sense.
You said you were using logic, and you used a very specific term of logic incorrectly.
If what you meant was a bastardized and non-sensical meaning for a logical term, then you were not getting to the point as you promised, but creating confusion.
Merriam-Webster is not the rest of the literary world, and it is a very poor reference, because it gets the term just as wrong as you, as it does with other words.
The Syriac version of the Book of Revelation begins by stating that it was “written in Patmos, to which John was sent by Nero Caesar.” Also, another Syriac work, The History of John, the Son of Zebedee, asserts that Nero exiled John.
John was imprisoned on the island of Patmos, writing the book of Revelation at that timr
The scriptures you posted and may post will reflect that The Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are each unique Persons. The doctrine of the trinity affirms this.
It just further affirms that they are all God and yet God is one, which is a mystery, but undeniable.
The father is given the attributes of God. Jesus is given the attributes of God. The Holy Spirit is given the attributes of God. We are baptized into the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit for this reason as He directs. How blasphemous if we were baptized in the name of someone not God!
Also note that the bishop of Rome, like Peter was, is the primus inter pares. First among equals. He would be called upon to be the tie breaker in a dispute. But for a community under persecution from the Sanhedrin Sadduccees (so “beaten in the synagogues”), from the Pharisees and, from nero6onwards by the civil authorities, this community worked like churches in North Korea, not with daily day to day micro management.
The significance of the two prophets in Rev 11
Rev. 11:3–6. 3 And I will grant my two witnesses power to prophesy for one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth.” 4 These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands which stand before the Lord of the earth. 5 And if any one would harm them, fire pours out from their mouth and consumes their foes; if any one would harm them, thus he is doomed to be killed. 6 They have power to shut the sky, that no rain may fall during the days of their prophesying, and they have power over the waters to turn them into blood, and to smite the earth with every plague, as often as they desire.
The two witnesses are likened to two “olive trees” and two “lamps.” This is probably a reference to Zechariah 4. There, two olive trees continually provide oil for the lamps in the temple. The meaning of the passage is explained to Zechariah: the temple in Jerusalem will be built despite the resistance of those who oppose it because it has God’s anointing (Zech. 4:1–6). These two witnesses, therefore, come to warn of the destruction of the earthly temple. Anyone who clings to it instead of following Christ, refuses to admit that the Spirit has left the earthly temple and anointed a better temple namely Jesus.
The image of the two witnesses who “stand before the Lord” is also taken from Zechariah (4:14). The two witnesses are those who have power to “stop the rain,” “turn water into blood,” and bring forth “plagues.” These images are associated with Moses and Elijah. Moses was able to turn water into blood through the plagues. Fire also came down and consumed Moses’ and Elijah’s enemies (Num. 16:35; 2 Kings 1:12)
Together, Moses and Elijah symbolize the two major parts of the Old Testament—the Law and the Prophets like
Moses and Elijah at the Transfiguration of Jesus
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