That is absurd! For forgiveness is clearly stated - as shown you twice - to be by believing in the Lord Jesus, and thus washing of regeneration was realized BEFORE baptism, in which this faith was expressed (besides praising God)! Thus you have provided another example of either rank ignorance or how Catholics must compel Scripture to conform to what they want it to say in order to support their false church.
Our personal Salvation is based on Christ’s judgment when we die and not based on man-made protestant theory, Yes, Christ’s death atoned for our sins and reconciled mankind with God. However as indicated in Scripture, everyone will be judged by Jesus upon our death. Which is another example of ignorance of Scripture, for salvation is not based on Christ’s judgment for they are already saved or lost before any judgment, and instead salvation is based upon heart-purifying regenerating effectual living faith, (Acts 10:43-47; 17:7-9) being counted/imputed for righteousness. (Rm. 4:5) Saved souls are vindicated in this as being believers, and if they dies in the faith, or are here when Christ returns, then as shown you more than once and blatantly ignored as you parrot Catholic prevarications, that wherever Scripture clearly speak of the next conscious reality for believers then it is with the Lord, (Lk. 23:43 [cf. 2Cor. 12:4; Rv. 2:7]; Phil 1:23; 2Cor. 5:8 [“we”]; 1Cor. 15:51ff'; 1Thess. 4:17) Note in the latter case all believers were assured that if the Lord returned, which they expected in their lifetime, so would they “ever be with the Lord,” though they were still undergoing growth in grace, as was Paul. (Phil. 3:7f)
And the next transformative experience that is manifestly taught is that of being like Christ in the "first resurrection." (1Jn. 3:2; Rm. 8:23; 1Co 15:53,54; 2Co. 2-4; (Revelation 20:6)) At which time is the judgment seat of Christ, which is the only suffering after this life, which does not begin at death, but awaits the Lord's return, (1 Corinthians 4:5; 2 Timothy. 4:1,8; Revelation 11:18; Matthew 25:31-46; 1 Peter 1:7; 5:4) and is the suffering of the loss of rewards (and the Lord's displeasure) due to the manner of material one built the church with, which one is saved despite the loss of such, not because of. (1 Corinthians 3:8ff)
The other judgment after this life is only for the lost, after the second resurrection (Revelation 20:5) in which the wicked are shown their evil and the actual sentences meted out according to their level of sin and accountability. (Revelation 20:11-15; Mt. 11:2-20)
Accordingly, there is no absolute assurance of a guaranty of salvation.
To claim a believer can never fall away from the faith - fall from grace, draw back unto perdition, make Christ of no salvific effect, to not profit for them - is wrong, (Gal. 5:1-4; Heb. 3:12; 10:25-39) and which I nowhere defended. But it is also wrong to state that a soul cannot know that they presently are saved (having examined themselves if they are in the faith, and to which the Spirit witnesses: 2 Co. 13:5; 1 Thessalonians 1:4; Romans 8:14-16), possessing eternal life (1 Jn. 5:13) and would go directly to forever be with the Lord at death or at His coming (see above), and which a Catholic cannot say.
so let us not lose heart when we stumble in sinning, but rather repent and reconcile with Christ and his Church.
Actually it is impenitent recalcitrant Rome that itself needs repentance, as do all who are in it and defend it, who are accursed if they preach her false gospel. (Gal. 1:8)
Jesus established the Sacraments and His Catholic Church so that we could receive His forgiveness of our sins through the Sacrament of Confession with an ordained priest. So after I showed you from the Scriptures that what the CC does is not what the NT manifestly did, you just ignore and parrot your perversion. Do Catholics think they obtain some sort of indulgence by such cultic responses?
I tell you, on the day of judgment men will render account for every careless word they utter; for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned (Matt. 12:36-37). “Truly, truly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now us, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son Of God, and those who hear will live. ... and has given him authority to execute judgement. .... those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of judgement.Matthew 5;25-29
The second quote is actually from John, and "the day of judgment" refers to the time period after this life, "the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.' (Revelation 11:18) In which there are two judgments, as shown, the resurrection of life and the resurrection of damnation, each separated by the 1,000 year reign of Christ (regardless if Rome denies it) with words and works formally justifying souls as being believers and rewarded accordingly for their effectual faith, while unbelievers - beginning with the devil - are shown to be so in the light of their works, and with them receiving the fitting punishment for their unbelieving deeds.
But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. (Revelation 20:5)
And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. (John 5:29)
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years. (Revelation 20:6)
And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years, (Revelation 20:2)
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. (Revelation 20:4)
During which time there will be unregenerate souls (which the elect rule over) and temple sacrifices and forgiveness, as Ezekiel 34-46 extensively details.
For he will render to every man according to his works: ...but for those that are factious (selfish) and do not obey the truth, but obey wickedness, there will be wrath and fury. Romans 2:5-8 It is the Lord who judges me. Therefore do not pronounce judgement before the time, before the Lord comes 1 Corinthians 4: 4-5 Indeed, after the first resurrection, all believers shall stand before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. (2 Corinthians 5:10) For "every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour...Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is. If any man’s work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man’s work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. (1 Corinthians 3:8, 13-15) (1 Corinthians 3:8)
After which first resurrection and the judgment seat of Christ "they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years." (Revelation 20:6) Which is followed by the great white throne judgment of the lost in which God will render to every man according to his works, with believers acting as kind of jury, providing testimony to the evil the lost did. Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? (1 Corinthians 6:2) .
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:10-15)
The above is what Scripture teaches, but since mere men are the supreme authority for devout Catholics, they dismiss the true Scriptural word of God and follow falsehoods.
I realize that Christ forewarned us that the catholic faith would antagonize the world and the world will hate us.
Rather, your church has a history of antagonizing true believers, while today your great leader that RCS are supposed to look to is antagonizing the conservative sects of your false church, while the liberal world looks to Catholics for votes, with many calling it their home, while it remains that the NT church was not the Catholic system.
The rest of your post is simply more recourse to parroting propaganda in lie of an actual argument.
To add the word "free" to the word "gift" is redundant. My KJV concordance does not have "free gift".
New International Version For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--
Berean Literal Bible For by grace you are saved through faith, and this not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
New King James Version For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God,
King James Bible For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
nternational Standard Version For by such grace you have been saved through faith. This does not come from you; it is the gift of God
John 4:10 Jesus answered, "If you knew the gift of God and who is asking you for a drink, you would have asked Him, and He would have given you living water."
Study Bible Alive with Christ …7in order that in the coming ages He might display the surpassing riches of His grace, demonstrated by His kindness to us in Christ Jesus. 8For it is by grace you have been saved through faith, and this not from yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9not by works, so that no one can boast.…
And so on and so on.
Approximately one third of the angels followed Satan into Hell.
While, I do know the exact quantity of mankind that will follow Satan, it is probably as high as 75% which include most heretics and those that reject God’s Word.
You attempt to quote the Bible to support you protestant theory, but does the opposite; For example:
Acts 10:43-47 refers to the forgiveness of sins by Baptism, not future sins “And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ.” FYI one sentence or phrase is not sufficient proof of Christ’s teachings, one should understand the whole.
Your comment: “for salvation is not based on Christ’s judgment for they are already saved or lost before any judgment, and instead salvation is based upon heart-purifying regenerating effectual living faith,’
I see your comments as your ignorance of God’s Truth. “For judgement, I came into this world, that those who do not see may see, and those who see may become blind.” John 9:39
Your comment: “ But it is also wrong to state that a soul cannot know that they presently are saved (having examined themselves if they are in the faith, and to which the Spirit witnesses: 2 Co. 13:5; 1 Thessalonians 1:4; Romans 8:14-16), possessing eternal life (1 Jn. 5:13) and would go directly to forever be with the Lord at death or at His coming (see above), and which a Catholic cannot say.
There is no promise of absolute assurance of salvation anywhere in God’s Truth. “once saved, always saved” is a protestant theory that is false that probably comes from Satan. All can have hope until the end. Heb 6:11
Why does one need to repent if there is assurance of salvation (if Christ’s death forgave all future sins)? Acts 8:22
Your comment: “Actually it is impenitent recalcitrant Rome that itself needs repentance, as do all who are in it and defend it, who are accursed if they preach her false gospel. (Gal. 1:8) “
Again, you rely on false teaching and not God’s Truth. Yes, Satan is accursed and you seem to support protestant theories. Yes, there may be some Catholics that provide false teaching and support evil, like abortion, etc.(but not the Church as a whole), and God will deal with them on judgement day. The truth of the Catholic faith is strong and Jesus promises to be with us until the end of time.
Repent and accept God’s Truth and reject protestant theories and multiple versions that dispute God’s Truth.