Posted on 10/24/2020 10:27:39 PM PDT by robowombat
Your thoughts on forgiving Donald Trump
Oct 23, 2020 by NCR Staff Opinion
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In the latest Soul Seeing column, Mike Leach talks about how he need to forgive President Donald Trump, even though it's hard to do so. "How do I forgive someone I don't even know but who drives me nuts every time I see him boast and lie and cheat?" he writes. Following are letters to the editor responding to the column. The letters have been edited for length and clarity. You can join the conversation by following the guidelines below.
I have a few thoughts for Michael Leach about forgiving President Donald Trump.
Try walking in the shoes of the president of the United States. When he supposedly heard news of the pandemic and didn't immediately report it, don't you believe it may have been a prudent decision considering the millions of people that would have gone into sheer panic? It was new news that needed to be discerned and researched further before making a widespread announcement. And there still would have been those that didn't believe it and kept doing what they were doing. It was inevitable that many people would have died either way.
mail-2237468.jpgLetters to the Editor As of this date, numbers are spiking like crazy. Everyone knows about COVID-19 and they're out partying anyway. I suppose that's Trump's fault too? How is that? The opposite side wants to and erroneously prove that everything wrong in the world is because of the current president. God knows the man is not perfect and neither are you, me and everyone. As for dissension in our country, that started way before Trump had an inkling of becoming president. The president's job is to protect this country.
How has Trump ignited violence? It is the cities and states that have allowed their cities to be torn down and have allowed violent groups to literally get away with murder at the expense of the lives of many good people and law enforcement. Again, this violence was brewing and active way before Trump became president.
I have heard my Christian liberal friends say, "I hate Donald Trump. I hate him, I hate him, I hate him." These are the very people who proudly display the sign in their front lawns stating, "Hate has no home here." Really? That is so hypocritical. Who has room for that?
So the president has a controversial personality. Live with it. Probably some don't like your personality. Who are we to cast a stone on anyone? Chew on that and peace be with you.
MAUREEN O'NEILL-LASZLO Valley City, Ohio
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I am voting for President Donald Trump because he supports school choice, congressional term limits, strong military, limited government and ending excessive regulation.
He supports, more than any other president, the rights of the unborn and to tell the world America is a land of good people.
HERB HARKINS Palm City, Florida
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Michael Leach challenges all rational beings to have the need to forgive President Donald Trump. In his confession he urges us to be more God-like. That's a tall order, indeed, when the object of that forgiveness tells one and all that he doesn't need our forgiveness because his sins are at best venial — so minor that he doesn't see why he could possibly need to ask for our mercy.
I, like so many others, struggle perpetually with the two-edged sword of forgiveness: an ardent wish to be able to "forgive those who have trespassed against us" while at the same time desperately needing absolution for the "things I have done and failed to do."
The Code of Canon Law 987 tells us one "must reject sins committed and have a purpose of amendment." Trump neither acknowledges his sins nor has any inclination of correcting his behavior. It would therefore seem he does not meet the requirements for reconciliation.
JOHN C. TUFFY Endwell, New York
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Jesus said to forgive 70 times 7 times. President Donald Trump gives me this opportunity every day. I know I will be judged as I judge.
Between my country and the organizational church, I pray God will be merciful to me a sinner. I have voted and I have closed the door on this. I pray God spare me from doing this with my church since birth.
JANE FRANCISCO Charlotte, North Carolina
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The 20th century German martyr Dietrich Bonhoeffer wrote about forgiveness in this manner: "Cheap grace is the preaching of forgiveness without requiring repentance, baptism without church discipline, Communion without confession, absolution without personal confession. Cheap grace is grace without discipleship, grace without the cross, grace without Jesus Christ, living and incarnate."
The theological question then becomes: How can one forgive someone who claims to have no need for it?
LOUIS J. REITH Seward, Nebraska
“””””””I certainly would not want my own child to be like Trump”””””””””””
Successful?
Hard working?
Gave up everything to work free for the people of the USA?
Yeah, who would want to be like that?
Me either
Wasn’t my point
NCRporter is purely not worth looking at here.
“CAN WE STOP POSTING ALL THIS NEVER TRUMP CRAP.....”
I understand your frustration, as in we know this is all foolishness. But a reality is that these attitudes exist, in a lot of places, with spouses, friends , families, and neighbors, and articles like this can reveal a simple phrase, perhaps, that can be used to turn someone Else’s heart and mind.
Kinda like talking about the best hammers and nails, when you’re not actually building anything.
It’s not our place to forgive him. That’s between Him and God.
Thank you.
National Catholic Reporter! It’s a publications for Catholics in name only who don’t believe the church’s teachings. The National Catholic Register is a great publication for Catholics who actually go to church. The Reporter is for Biden Catholics in name only. It’s trash.
Thanks for the correction.
I have a much harder time forgiving Democrats who murder babies in the womb, who want to destroy the family structure that God ordained, who seek to oppress men with silly laws, who want to erase God from society removing His name and attempting to infiltrate religious institutions with their godlessness.
I certainly do forgive them but I pray that God would judge them according to their blasphemous, evil and wicked actions.
Donald Trump...I don’t need to forgive him for his boasting. Paul, after all, boasted.
Forgive him? They should be washing and kissing his feet and thanking him with everything they have.
I still struggle with the idea of forgiving my church.
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I want and therefore seek God’s forgiveness and if I ever need to remind myself why I have to forgive those who commit the sin of slandering PDJT, I read this.....
Matthew 6:15
But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.
they sound real similar, but are polar opposites. Have a great day
Forgiveness requires repentance, true enough. I make no statement on Trump’s state of grace, how would I know?
But what has Trump done to these Pharisees, that he needs forgiveness from these self-righteous fools? Perhaps,they need to ask forgiveness from Trump for their relentless lies and attacks.
Paul, David, Cyrus, even Constantine were used by God at different point in history
God requires repentance for forgiveness. Is forgiving them unrepentant a higher form of forgiveness than God’s?
EXACTLY. I can’t forgive for others. Not that I have anything to forgive Trump for.
Is forgiving the unrepentant even Scriptural?
I am not God
The Lird’s prayer is VERY clear
I am to forgive if I am to be forgiven
OK. I will forgiveness involves the restoration of a relationship, not just ceasing to be be angry. And I can’t forgive for wrongs done to others. That’s their prerogative.
And some people don’t want your forgiveness. But you might be right I’m not God, either
I don’t think so
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