Posted on 08/02/2020 4:43:58 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal
To answer this question, we invited Billy Crone, the senior pastor of Sunrise Baptist Church in Las Vegas, Nevada, and founder of Get A Life! Ministries, to our television program Christ in Prophecy. Billy covered a number of sensationalist Bible prophecy topics such as UFOs and the Nephilim.
Aliens Unmasked
Nathan Jones: Billy, when it comes to sensationalist Bible prophecy, often we’re talking about UFOs. You’ve done a lot of research into UFOs. Can you explain why you approach UFOs so often in your teachings?
Billy Crone: UFOs were part of my background when I was involved in the occult and New Age before I became saved. In the New Age, one of the big subjects is UFOs and the lie that is going on about them. Quite a lot of sensationalism and deception has been going on with that topic. It’s a topic that we the Church do need to get equipped on because the Scriptures, I believe, give us the answer.
Whether we accept it or not, our world is enthralled with the topic of UFOs and aliens. Right now, just looking at current statistics in the United States of America, more people believe in the existence of UFOs and aliens than they do in the existence of God. More people in the United States of America believe that aliens have visited planet Earth than Jesus is the Son of God.
So many people are obsessed with UFO-ology, because Hollywood has been promoting it. The lie of Evolution sets the foundation for this study. UFO-ology has become the new religion of the 21st Century in our own country. Its adherents believe that aliens are going to save them, not God.
We need to deal with this new religion because our world is being led astray. Plus, the Scriptures say we are to give a defense for the hope that lies within us.
From a biblical perspective, number one, you know that there is something deceptive going on because the very nature and the whole premise of UFOs is built on a lie. It is called the lie of Evolution. When these aliens are supposedly going to show up, they’re expected to say, “We’re a higher, evolved race.”
Stop right there! Evolved? Wait a second. Evolved equals Evolution. Well, Evolution is not true. We were created by God! We didn’t come from the goo, to the zoo, to me and you. No, we came from God, right?
But, the whole alien premise, their whole identity when they supposedly show up on the scene, is a lie. Now, go back to the Scriptures. In John 8, what does Jesus say? “Satan is not only a murderer, and he’s been one since the beginning, he’s a liar, and he’s the father of all lies.” The alien’s claim to evolutionary superiority tells you right out of the gate that you are being deceived.
The other lie aliens are supposed to make, too, is they’ll claim, “We are here to give you some incredible messages, and we’ve come all the way across the universe to give you this important information.” When you look at what they are “sharing,” it’s all about debunking Jesus, the Bible, God, and salvation. These supposed alien visitors claim there is no such thing as sin. They say that we need to combine into a one-world religion and a one-world government. I kid you not! They claim humanity needs to follow a one-world ruler, or we are going to be destroyed. They say that we need to worship Mother Earth.
These alien visitors actually have the audacity to say that Satan is a good guy who has come to free us! Now, excuse me, that is demonic, that is a deception, that is a lie.
Then they say, in order to receive these messages, you have to let them take over a person’s vocal cords, and speak through people with their messages. Stop right there! These aliens are supposed to be this highly evolved, technologically advanced race, much more scientific than we are, for that’s how they supposedly traveled here across the cosmos, right? But then, they cannot communicate to us by just sending a text message or calling us on the phone? I’ll even take an old handwritten letter. Why do they have to take over people’s vocal cords and speak through them?
Folks, that’s demonic possession. That’s exactly what demons do!
I believe the bulk of UFO sightings can be explained by natural experiences. But then, there’s an element that we need to take a look at closely to see what is going on there. Secular guys are confirming that there is one way to get rid of these aliens 100% of the time. When you command them in the name of Jesus Christ to flee, they flee instantly!
One lady I interviewed in Oregon who had this encounter said when she did that, not only did the “aliens” flee out of there, they fled out of there so fast they were tripping over each other. Now, wait a second; who flees in the name of Jesus? That’d be a demon. They didn’t flee due to the name of Mohammed, or Buddha, or Confucius. No, just the name of Jesus Christ.
UFOs to Explain the Rapture
Billy Crone: UFO-ology is leading to the last day’s deception. In order to fall for the lie of UFOs, you first have to fall for the lie of Evolution. This tells you how slowly and methodically the Enemy has been setting up the planet for this great deception. He started back in the 1850’s with Charles Darwin who has now permeated the planet with his Theory of Evolution.
Secondly, Evolution gets some help from Hollywood. They glamorize aliens and UFOs. Everybody then “knows” there must be real live aliens out there. As a matter of fact, you’re considered a wacko for not believing that aliens must be real. Folks, science fiction is leading society to somewhere.
I remember back before I was saved and was immersed in the New Age. I received these so-called “channeled messages” from supposed space aliens. Now that I’m saved, I know that was all demonic. In my documentary, I actually quote these demons who are continually preparing the way to explain away the Rapture of the Church.
The Rapture of the Church is true. The Bible teaches about that soon- coming event. Put yourself, if you will, in the Enemy’s shoes. Soon there will be an event that will occur around the globe where millions of people from all across the planet instantaneously disappear, and they’ll specifically only be Christians. You just can’t spin that baby. You can’t hide that event. So, you better come up with some good excuse.
Think about how slowly and methodically the Enemy has been preparing their lie to explain away the Rapture. It started with Evolution back in the 1850s, and Hollywood has perpetuated it today. All somebody has to do right after the Rapture is stand up on the world scene, maybe somebody even like the pope, and try to reassure people. He may say, “Hey, people! I just want you to know you were right all along. The government has been hiding this truth from you. UFOs and aliens are real. See, that’s why all of these people have disappeared. It was aliens. They beamed all of those Christians up to their ships.”
Nathan Jones: Isn’t that a central tenant of New Age teaching, that when Maitreya returns, after Christians have been taken off this planet, that humanity can at last evolve to their true states without those accursed Christians holding people back?
Billy Crone: That is another one of Satan’s lies. It’s very convenient, I dare say. Think about how much UFOs have permeated the mindset of people. They are going to fall for that excuse for the Rapture lickety-split.
They’ll actually spin the fact that the world has been left behind into a seemingly good thing. Jesus said the seven-year Tribulation will be the worse time in the history of mankind. But, no, these deceivers will spin that being left behind was a blessing. “You are a chosen one. Now you get to be a part of the Age of Utopia as we rebuild the planet in a wonderful time of peace.”
How crazy! After all, the event that starts the seven-year Tribulation will be the Antichrist. As Daniel 9:27 and Revelation 6:1 reveal, this White Horse Rider initiates a false peace. The people will go, “This is true. Look! He made a deal in the Middle East that nobody could do. How amazing! We’ve at last got peace on our planet. Everybody has come together, even religion and government. How amazing! How wonderful!” Nope! You just found yourself left behind in the seven-year Tribulation. It wasn’t UFOs that sucked those people up. That was Jesus Christ coming back to collect His Bride.
Especially in a time of crisis and on such a massive scale, human nature gravitates toward any lame excuse just to maintain one’s sanity. Aliens are not a lame excuse for the Rapture because, with this one, the world is ripe to fall for it.
Nathan Jones: Some people theorize that the Antichrist might arrive claiming that he is an alien, sort of like Superman. I don’t know where they get that, but do you think they may be correct?
Billy Crone: Well, sure. Why not? You’ve got some people who say the Antichrist will be a Muslim. Where in the Bible are they reading that one? The origins of the Antichrist, unfortunately, is often a topic people sensationalize. In doing so, they lead people astray from the biblical teaching. Such a theory may warrant our attention, but stick purely with the Bible.
I’m convinced this fascination with UFOs provides us a great opportunity to witness to the lost. The lost are enthralled with UFOs and aliens, and to me, it provides a fantastic opportunity to share the Gospel with them.
You can view the full interview titled “Sensationalism in Bible Prophecy with Billy Crone” at this link.
Read this garbage!
you mean post 138?
How exactly was Paul saved from his tribulation? The answer is that he wasn’t. He suffered more than any apostle, even more than John. No, God was with him through “his” tribulation, his service to the Lord. That’s the promise Jesus makes us, that He will be with us even to the ends of the earth.
If you think Noah’s Flood, Lot & his family, Philip, Paul, Jesus, John, Enoch, Elijah and all that happened to them are all “fantasies” - then you’ve got more problems than I get throw darts at.
Enoch went through tribulation? chapter and verse please.
Lie #7:
7. The church will leave in the rapture prior to the antichrist, plagues and mark of the beast.
In each case, scriptural evidence can be presented which proves each of their points to be incorrect. Here I have dealt mostly with point #7, but do you notice there is a trend of ignorance and lack of concern advocated by pre-tribbers? They say that since the righteous will leave this earth before most of the events of the end times, you need not be concerned with any of it. Interesting stuff they say, but not really relevant to today’s believer. Besides, according to them, what you do now does not matter anyway, you will get a second chance in the millennium. Nothing could be farther from the truth - it is a satanic lie. If your church advocates the pre-tribulation rapture, I submit that you are being misled and need to study the matter closely for yourself, and perhaps find a new church that teaches the truth.
Please note it is not my intention to offend anyone. I do not question the integrity or sincerity of those who believe in a secret rapture, but they ARE deceived - in no uncertain terms. I have tried to offer the foundation built on the true rock of the testimony of Jesus as found in the Bible. A knowledge of the truth is my only goal.
http://aloha.net/~mikesch/psttrib.htm
NO TAKEN, NO CHOP, NO PRE TRIB RAPTURE
Nah, I just skip the SDA cultist’s posts. No sense reading stuff from a clueless cultist after the first dozen postings.
> Do you belive abductions are real?
Years ago I read all of the stuff on abductions, even books like “Missing Time” by Whitely Striber (I think that was his name). I have to admit that I found that book a little more than frightening and it weighed heavy on my mind for years.
However, I do not think there is life anywhere else in the entire existence of everything other than on this very planet. I think this abduction stuff is demonic in nature. I could be wrong, but it wouldn’t destroy my faith.
What you really mean is:
Nah, these guys are presenting fierce logic and I’ve got nothing to refute it with. If hate, anger, or name calling doesn’t work, I’ll just ignore them.
As to whether there is life beyond our beautiful blue ball, I believe there is and in our 4D coordinate system. I spent some time as a field investigator for MUFON a few years back. I have also experienced a sighting back in 1972. But who or from where, I do not know. I am convinced, however, that there are good and bad Angels, and that Angels use technology, but GOD does miracles. The biggest miracle next to the creation of the Universe is about to occur in the departure of all those in the Body of Christ, dead or alive.
Interesting. I heard it said like this. Imagine we live in two dimensions, essentially we live on a piece of paper, we can see the two dimensional drawings on it. Then a three dimensional being pokes his finger through our a piece of paper, it’s other worldly too us?
“In your opinion, what does Day of The Lord / Day of Christ mean? Do you believe it is the period of The Lamb opening the seals thus the seven years of Jacob’s Troubles? Paul had taught the believers in Thessalonika about the coming Day of the Lord. He had also taught them about the ‘gathering together to Him’. The believers were worried that the Day of the Lord seal judgments had arrived and they were not yet gathered to Him.”
The final dispensation/time period before the Millennial Kingdom has several names:
Day of the Lord (term used by Joel and apostles in their writings; it is a time in which the Lord alone will be exalted)
Day of Wrath (refers to the same time period from the perspective of those who experience God’s wrath)
Day of Christ (refers to the same time period from the perspective of believers who are rescued)
Day of God (Peter also calls the Day of the Lord the Day of God)
The End (term used by disciples and Christ at Olivet discourse, and in the book of Daniel)
The Second Coming
But it is not the same as Daniel’s seventieth week. Rather, Daniel’s seventieth week contains the Day of the Lord (the final part of the seven years).
“The phrase a falling away is a later translation, following the DR translation which changed the passage from The Departure to the rebellion. Prior to the DR Catholic Bible the English translations translated ‘apostasia’ as The Departure. We even get our word rapture from what Jerome gave in the Latin for the Greek ‘apostasia’.”
Apostasia is only used in the Bible here and in Acts 21:21, where both times it means apostasy, i.e. a departure or defection from orthodoxy. By orthodoxy I am not referring to a denominational affiliation but to the received doctrines of a faith (in this case Christian). Apostasia is also used 3 times in the Old Testament translation of scriptures into Greek, called the Septuagint. This is significant because about half of the New Testament quotations of the Old Testament rely on a direct quotation of the Septuagint. Paul would have used it in his in-person instructions on this subject to the Thessalonians.
Here is a resource with a more detailed explanation:
I will add one point to the above by citing an extra-biblical passage in 1 Maccabees 2:15-29 which can be read here:
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Maccabees%202%3A15-29&version=DRA
Pay particular attention to the first verse:
1 Maccabees 2:15 (DRA)
And they that were sent from king Antiochus came thither, to compel them that were fled into the city of Modin, to sacrifice, and to burn incense, and to depart from the law of God.
(No, I am not Roman Catholic and do not consider this to be scripture. It is however a historically accurate book with which Paul was familiar as it was part of the Greek version of the Old Testament called the Septuagint.)
Here, Antiochus Epiphanes committed the prototype of the abomination of desolation (which Christ and the apostles said was yet to come). And here it uses the same Greek word to describe the associated apostasy.
It is very likely that Paul taught the Thessalonians about the events described in 1 Maccabees, which also is in harmony with the idea that the spirit of antichrist/lawlessness was not something new or novel that was merely in the distant future. It has been around for a long time. The passage, for a correct understanding of the meaning of the apostasia, is very relevant because it is about an abomination of desolation that had already occurred.
“The Olivet Discourse was given to Jews in answer to their question regarding the end times, end times that had not included the Body of Christ which would be established outside of Judaism.”
This is what I meant earlier when I said that “our eschatological views can and do influence our dispensational views”. There is nothing specifically in the Olivet discourse that points to the message being for the Jews and not for the Church. The Gospels contain many other teachings of Christ which could easily be dismissed as being for Jews and not the Church unless there is some clear demarcation to indicate otherwise. Such an approach would allow any reader to arbitrarily and capriciously dismiss any teaching of Christ out of hand and claim it simply does not apply. But there are many reasons to believe it does include the Church. For example, the persecutions Christ mentions in it are not targeted toward Jewishness specifically but toward those who identify as followers of Christ. Why are they (Christians or Jews?) going to be hated? For Christ’s name. (See Matthew 24:9.) Further, the Gospel (Great Commission of the Church) must be taken to all the world before the End comes. (See Matthew 24:14.)
“The antichrist cannot come to power until the Body of Christ is removed from this Earth, because it is the Presence of The Holy Spirit in the spirit of His Believers which restrains the lawlessness.”
I disagree on several points. The Holy Spirit convicts of sin to bring repentance. However, this conviction does not “restrain” sin/iniquity/lawlessness. If anything, it causes those who are convicted but who remain in their unrepentant state to become more lawless, not less.
Acts 7:54 (NKJV)
When they heard these things they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed at him with their teeth.
John 15:22 (NKJV)
If I had not come and spoken to them, they would have no sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin.
Further, the function of the “restrainer” in 2 Thessalonians 2 is not to restrain the general lawlessness of the world, but to restrain the lawless one from being revealed until the proper time. This event must happen at the precise time God has ordained.
“The wrath of God begins when the Body of Christ is removed”
On this we agree. What we disagree about is what God’s wrath constitutes. God can and will allow His elect to go through times of great deception and delusion, times of war, times of disease, times of famine, and times of persecution. He does not take us out of this world but keeps us from the evil one. However, when God pours out His fiery wrath on the world, at the hands of His holy angels, He will first remove the Church.
One of the major problems the Thessalonians were experiencing is having trouble distinguishing between the trials, tribulations, and persecutions they were experiencing with the terrifying nature of God’s wrath being poured out on the earth in the Day of Wrath. I believe the pre-tribulational rapture view presents the same difficulty.
Something MHGinTN will never share with you (the truth)
Early Church Fathers
on the Timing of the Rise of Antichrist
The restrainer of the Antichrist
http://aloha.net/~mikesch/fathers-on-antichrist.htm
Hint, it’s not the Holy Spirit.
Your garbage is pure nonsense.
And before GOD you will stand one day to answer on account of calling me and others who follow SCRIPTURE liars.
Keep heaping up sins upon yourself.
Every post of yours is Garbage.
Pretty telling that a so-called “christian” (IN NAME ONLY) would continue to badger others who look to the Blessed Hope in Christ.
You are a sick and demented individual.
Enoch was Raptured - as were most of the others.
If you think Noah’s Flood, Lot & his family, Philip, Paul, Jesus, John, Enoch, Elijah and all that happened to them are all “fantasies” - then you’ve got more problems than I get throw darts at.
Enoch was Raptured - as were most of the others.
Enoch and Elijah (and Jesus) were taken to heaven. The others on your list above are dead and buried, waiting for the resurection. chapter and verse for the others please.
You are repeating the lies of Satan.
Thank you for the work you put in to fashion this post.I will agree to disagree with the several points regarding Matthew 24.
“Something MHGinTN will never share with you (the truth) Early Church Fathers on the Timing of the Rise of Antichrist”
In saying this I hope the truth you are referring to is merely on the issue of the identity of the restrainer. While I do not support the idea that everyone should come up with his or her own idea about everything, there are some areas of Bible interpretation that leave room for disagreement.
Though I can break bread with those who think the restrainer is the Roman government or the Holy Spirit, I am confident that it is Michael the archangel. I also see value in debating issues like this because it forces us to challenge our own assumptions and learn the scriptures more thoroughly. There are certainly things that are settled and nonnegotiable. There are others which require careful study, and over which sometimes even very gifted and godly Bible scholars disagree. This matter seems to be one of them.
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