Posted on 12/23/2019 11:22:12 AM PST by Gamecock
So I've heard.
Preying on the grief of those praying is blasphemy. There will be a steep price to pay when it counts.
I detest these charlatans.
Please just bury the child and know she is happy and playing at the feet of Jesus, she will never be sick again, hurt or cry. And you will see her again if you believe.
Legit...
OK, can you please explain to me why they need a $100,000 GoFundMe account to pray for their daughter???
I did not see the monetary need...Did I miss something?
Far be it from me to denigrate some else’s religion but this is so awful and so sad. Let us pray that this little one’s parents find strength and solace in God’s love and find themselves a church that will not try to profit from their grief.
All prayers are answered...sometimes the answer is No. God has a reason for all things.
For my thoughts are not your thoughts,
neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord.
Isaiah 55:8.
Don't worry. It was.
What exactly is the definition of a ‘megachurch’? Which member puts the growing, biblical church over the allowable member limit?
We never got to see his wife from the front, but from the back she had VERY long black hair, wore 5" heels and an ermine fur coat. She was wearing the donations.
Didn't call off the fundraiser, though:https://www.gofundme.com/f/heilifund
Unless it's changed, the fundraiser itself looks innocuous:
Early on December 14th, Kalley and Andrew Heiligenthals beautiful little girl, Olive Alayne, unexpectedly stopped breathing in her sleep. She was 2 years old, vivacious, full of wonder, full of life.Through all this, our desire is to bless, honor and support the family in the coming days. Please join us with your prayer, your solidarity, and your financial support.
We dont want the parents to have any concerns over finances throughout this situation, nor do we want to limit the generosity of those who want to support the family. GoFundMe requires a goal however any amount for the family will be a blessing to them. All funds will go directly to the Heiligenthal family.
What exactly is the definition of a megachurch? Which member puts the growing, biblical church over the allowable member limit?
Two thousand attenders, I think, is the usual number considered to be a "mega"church.
Actually, now that you mention it, I don’t mind that. But if a guy named Hank Williams or Buck Owens tried to sell me something, I’d be skeptical!
Thank you for the accepted definition. Why are churches derided simply because of their attendance? After Peter’s first sermon, the church in Jerusalem was a ‘megachurch’. It is the adherence (or lack thereof) to the gospel and scripture that matters. Not the size.
Sounds a lot like an Oral Roberts shake-down threat. Donate or Ill die.
we are told to pray”Thy will be done” not selfish our will be done. I guess these folks mossed that in Jesus prayer?
God does work all things for good for those who love Him and called according to HIS purposes.
I see this little girls passing as a time the family and congregation and all should see all the good God could do through the passing of this girl, instead this couple and others want to try to supercede God with their wants instead of His???
Mega Bump!
Praying for you. I can relate to some of your story and pain of loss. As other commentor said “unanswered prayer” or as I see it, some times the answer is different than what we wanted.
God’s glory is what every happening is supposed to be all about, not my wants. Some times God’s glory comes through a way that is in line with my wants and prayers to God and some times He reveals His glory through opposite what I prayed and wanted, by the growth He does in and through me and those around.
The lives touched through the person’s passing and even after the person is gone.(doctor’s, caregivers, friends, etc etc lots of people see and experience a portion of the events around a person’s illness and passing and maybe we never get to see big changes in other people God makes?) It’s amazing all the chain of events that God can use and string together from prayers answered as we want and those answered different than we wanted.
mayny years ago I grieved the loss of a loved one and could not bear to speak their name for 5 years without bursting into tears. more recent I lost an even coser loved one and by then I had grown to realize God does reveal His glory even our pain, God does work allthings - even the most tortuous happenings in our lives - for good.
Prov 3:5-6 Trust in the LORD with ALL your heart, and lean NOT on YOUR OWN understanding.....
He knows our pain. God had to deal with the death of His only begotten son. Thank God we believer’s know we will be reunited and have eternity together.
YES - there are those who believe answers to prayer should always be as they want. They are not following Jesus in my opinion.
God be with you always :)
See my post 26.
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