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1 posted on 12/02/2019 2:35:58 AM PST by paladinkc
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start with the internet. proverbs 26:4, 29:9, 2 timothy 2:23-24.. And psalms 37:7..


24 posted on 12/02/2019 4:37:52 AM PST by Ikeon (Oops.. did I say that?)
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Several points.

Don’t confuse “sin” with “good and evil”.
Sin is missing the marl of His Plan.
Good and evil are value judgments, which tend to distract us from fellowship with Him.

Salvation is only as difficult as we make it.
After the sacrifice on the Cross, all the work for salvation has been performed.

Our only chore is to follow His Plan and perform the Great Commission.


25 posted on 12/02/2019 4:49:28 AM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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Read your Bible for your self. Don’t let anyone tell you what it says.


29 posted on 12/02/2019 5:51:18 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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Matthew 11:29-30 Take my yoke upon you- What is Jesus’ yoke, and what does it look like

From Life Application Bible that I often use:

“A yoke is a heavy wooden harness that fits over the shoulders of an ox or oxen. It is attached to a piece of equipment the oxen are to pull. A ‘heavy laden’ animal has a big load to pull. A ‘heavy laden’ person may be burdened with 1) sin, 2) excessive demands of religious leaders (23:4; Acts 15:10), 3) oppression and persecution, or 4) weariness the search of God.”

“Jesus frees people from all these burdens. The rest that Jesus promises is love, healing, and peace with God, not the end of all labor. A relationship with God changes meaningless toil into spiritual productivity and purpose.”

God bless you as you grow closer in your walk with the Lord.


30 posted on 12/02/2019 5:55:33 AM PST by LoL_lady (Traitors inside the walls are always worse than the barbarians at the gates.)
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The Yoke Yeshua is talking about is the Torah. The Sages called it the yoke of Heaven. Read Psalm 1. It’s plain and simple that the man who loves God loves His Law. That’s why the Master told us in Matthew 5: “Think not that I have come to abolish the Torah, for I tell you that until Heaven and Earth pass away not one jot or tittle shall pass from the Torah.” So it’s simple; we study it, meditate on it, and observe it. That’s the Yoke of Heaven. The big difference, according to Yeshua is WHY you observe the commandments. It must not be a proud display of righteousness, but the sincere expression of a grateful heart. That’s why John said: “He who says that he abides in him ought to walk as He walked. Jesus walked out the Torah with a perfect observance. He says “Come, follow me!” May we draw near and walk close to him every day.


32 posted on 12/02/2019 6:27:33 AM PST by Torahman (Remember the Maccabees)
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I guess mine would be a more literal interpretation... if two oxen are not equally yoked, it can cause a lot of pain to both of them and the effort far outweighs the gain because they constantly work against each other. With Jesus, we are equally yoked. He shares our pains and we feel his joy. We work better together rather than alone.


34 posted on 12/02/2019 6:54:17 AM PST by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV), Luke 22:36 (NIV))
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First, let’s define ‘yoke’:

A device that is used to connect two animals, such as oxen, together to allow them to do the same work, like pulling a load, at half the effort.

Then, let’s analyze what Jesus meant by that.

Jesus wants you to put all the load on Him...............


36 posted on 12/02/2019 7:09:17 AM PST by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
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Have you ever read "The Road Less Traveled" By M.Scott Peck?

The Road Less Traveled,[7] published in 1978, It is, in short, a description of the attributes that make for a fulfilled human being, based largely on his experiences as a psychiatrist treating patients.

in the end he discusses God and religion, He acknowledges that Grace can only come from a higher power.

the book was a life changer

37 posted on 12/02/2019 7:49:54 AM PST by Ikeon (Oops.. did I say that?)
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John 6:29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent.”
38 posted on 12/02/2019 8:05:00 AM PST by MAAG (For the LORD will vindicate his people and have compassion on his servants.)
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We were created in the image of God. That means 3 parts, Body, Soul or mind, and spirit. Today, we are born with a dead spirit. God is Spirit, so we must be "born again" of the Spirit to be One with God, (married). We have been relying on our "souls" or our mind, to react with the world since physical birth of our bodies. Your soul tells your body when it's hungry, or frightened, or wants sex. An unsaved person is basically an animal seeking it's own needs no matter how "good" you think you are.

When you are born again of the Spirit, you now are complete to commune with God again. The problem now arises that the soul doesn't want to give up control to the Spirit. Fasting and prayer is just a demonstration that your Spirit has overruled your soul. Your soul says" I'm hungry", but you Spirit says "I will live on the Bread of God's Word". The war inside of us is due to the soul not wanting to do what God wants you to do. The Bible shows Gods plan for us and His character. As hard as it is to "Love your enemies", that is what He requires of His children. As Children being weened from breast milk, we will mistake God's "meat" as someone starving us so we fight back. If we find it difficult to live like Jesus did, we are still in rebellion and need further training to get off of "soulish" thinking. A soul is mind, will, and emotions. We must be trained to know that God is NOT interested in what we think or feel, but are to follow the Scriptures instructions. I've heard people brag that they follow their heart. God says our hearts are dark and desperately evil.

Jesus was so different from the worlds thinking that they killed Him. A Christian is maturing when we hear the world saying we are "different". Living the Christian life will get you noticed if you are doing it right. If you have been redeemed from sin, then you will look redeemed and stand out from the lost.

Living in sin is actually destructive and will end in disaster and pain. When a depressed, self destructive, person comes to the Lord, He/she, will find Joy and meaning for their life. But it will become plain that the world doesn't like that person because the world is following Satan.

The "yoke" Jesus is speaking of is just taking on His similitude in Love for God. "What would Jesus do" is more than a slogan. Paul said "Death is gain". Can you live in a manor that you would give your life for God? Most cannot even attend church regularly or give money to the poor. Many will skip church to watch the Cowboys loose again. He's proven His love for you. We must decide that we prefer to live forever with God than live for less than 100 years down here. What is coming is more important than anything we have down here. When you no longer find living on earth a heavy load, even a death sentence means nothing to you because you are about to meet the love of your life in eternity. The world will crush you if you let it. Our hope is in God.

39 posted on 12/02/2019 8:53:23 AM PST by chuckles
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Matthew 11:29-30 Take my yoke upon you- What is Jesus' yoke, and what does it look like,

As you have seen already many people get different things from this passage...So I'll take this opportunity to tell you what I see...And what I see is what it says...No need to interpret...But a little bible study is required...

Mat 11:28  Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 

First off, it is one of the most profound verses of scripture in the bible...There's not a human on the earth that can provide rest, for your soul...That statement has some doctrinal reference (for the Nation of Israel); it has some spiritual reference for the Christian and some practical application for ALL...

The bible is an amazing book...You'll not find another like it in existence...

Mat 11:29  Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 
Mat 11:30  For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. 

What is the yoke, and how do you find it???

2Ti 2:15  Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 

What is Jesus yoke??? What other yoke is there???

Act 15:10  Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear? 

And what is that yoke??? That yoke is the 613 or so oracles of the Law given to Moses by God that his people must obey...And of course they were not successful so were required to provide blood sacrifices to atone for their failures, with no guarantee that that would be successful either...

Mat 23:2  Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
  Mat 23:3  All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. 
Mat 23:4  For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

That was the yoke of bondage...The Pharisees demanded that everyone follow those oracles to a T while they themselves wouldn't even try...

Jesus has a new yoke...

Gal 5:1  Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. 

Rom_13:8  Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.
Rom 13:10  Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. 
Gal_5:14  For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Gal 3:13  Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: 

The yoke is no longer the fear of hell for not living the law...Jesus removed that curse...Jesus' yoke is Love...If you love fully, you have fullfilled all that is in the law...That's why Jesus' yoke is easy...Jesus says to love your neighbor, love yourself, love your enemies, love God...The idea is you will not sin against those things you love...Therefore, the law is fulfilled in love...

40 posted on 12/02/2019 9:59:43 AM PST by Iscool
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but find myself continually frustrated at how easy it is to get back into old habits that are unhealty

^This!^

With or without Jesus, the inner battle, the dying to oneself, mastering the ego’s and the body’s wants and desires and hungers is a constant struggle all of life.

Remembering to ask Him for strength and peace, remembering to consult with Him about all things, especially that which distresses me most, keeping that inner conversation going with Him always ... it all has become a daily conscious evolution of my thoughts and habits, with His Sayings and Scripture’s references helping to shape my clay.

Jesus and Scripture makes me more mindful of my integrity, or lack of integrity, in the many small things that the life I’ve chosen requires of me each day.

I have become more aware of the inner argument I have with my ego’s preferences for laziness and lethargy and Scripture makes me more aware of what/who encourages my ego in these battles and the techniques being used against me. Satan’s stuff is fascinatingly simple, yet devastatingly effective.

I don’t feel His Yoke as being light ... yet ... but Yoke lifting is good exercise for my good.

42 posted on 12/02/2019 10:38:30 AM PST by GBA (Here in the matrix, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.)
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God bless you! Here's Jase Robertson addressing your question: watch from 36:30 - 40:50 (or, for a real treat, watch the whole sermon).
43 posted on 12/02/2019 10:39:43 AM PST by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God IS, and (2) God IS GOOD?)
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"The key is "learn from me"; that is, this is not an invitation to salvation, as many suppose." A saying worthy of acceptation indeed! But wait, there's more!

Matured Christ ians are called to discipleship as a natural out growth of 'learning of Him', 'taking His yoke' upon them. The Word tells us to be transformed by the renewing of our minds.

The teaching from Jesus was first to a personal level, then when matured, onto a discipleship level. The way to grow in Christ is to be completely open to HIS voice calling us away from the worldly, to activate and keep the sanctification process going. When I sin, I short circuit the growth process, putting my 'renewing of my mind' -moving away from the world and the urgings of the flesh- to walk daily in the humility of knowing just how sin prone our inherited-from-Adam flesh is.

The world will recognize a different walk as we walk with Him. Those who GOD calls when they see the difference are to be disciple: faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. As we mature the essential meat we need comes from being in the Word as much as possible and for renewing of our minds. THEN we will be sharing the natural blossoming of the Word in us, and fruit results.

44 posted on 12/02/2019 11:17:43 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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IF you are born again, then there is an aspect of you that cannot sin because it has been separated from the soul unto the Glory of The Son. [1 John 3:9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God.]

The soul/flesh sins, but the sinless spirit within, come alive with eternal LIFE, cannot sin. That is the real basis of OSAS, His Life abides in our before-dead-spirit which He has brought to LIFE. [Hebrews 4:12]

And of all these born again, we are destined to have a new flesh -a new body and new soul (behavior mechanism)- created for us at the moment of the Rapture. We are destined to be transformed to incorruptible beings fit to carry the eternal Life God's seed gave u at the born again moment. [1 John 3:2 Beloved, we are God’s children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is.]

In the natural man state it is impossible to see Jesus as He really is now. At the snatching away of ALL in Him, we shall be transformed to a state like Him and so we will then be able to see Him as He is.

Jesus did not die om that cross to save our sinfil flesh. He died to bring eternal life to the dead spirit within us (justification by faith in The Promise of God in Christ Jesus). Once the new life is in the alive now spirit, He beckons us to be renewed in the mind of our flesh so that the astonishing new Life shows in our walk, thus causing us to be disciples by our mere living in the world but not of the world. If matured, we then have the obligation of His family members to share the Word which can separate new life spirit from old man flesh/soul.

45 posted on 12/02/2019 11:41:17 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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What is Jesus' yoke, and what does it look like, ...

Definition of yoke
a wooden bar or frame by which two draft animals (such as oxen) are joined at the heads or necks for working together
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  • Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
  • And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
  • And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
  • Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
  • And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.


Second Corinthians, Catholic chapter six, Protestant verses fourteen to eighteen,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James


  1. Jesus is the Master.
  2. He is asking for volunteers to take his yoke upon them willingly.
  3. The yoke is to do all his commandments.
  4. One is not yoked alone, but in partnership to do the work set before them by the Master.
  5. It is significant who one is yoked to.


Yoke
60 posted on 12/02/2019 6:32:27 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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I find the ‘yoke’ as an implied promise of help in this world.

So many of us try to do it on our own strengths and abilities; thereby becoming tired, exhausted and finally plain worn out; ground down by the toils of this world.

“Take MY yoke upon you...”; not “Let me get in your yoke with you.”


69 posted on 12/03/2019 4:52:56 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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