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To: Mom MD

Paul’s view is not pre-trib rap


136 posted on 11/12/2019 7:49:27 AM PST by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Cronos

I didn’t know you knew him personally! That is so cool!


184 posted on 11/12/2019 8:37:19 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: Cronos

Satan lied to Eve in the Garden, too. So your lying is transparent.


187 posted on 11/12/2019 8:43:28 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Cronos

“Paul’s view”??? You mean the book of 1 Thes is “Paul’s “view””?

I thought 1 Thes was the inspired Word (Logos) of God Almighty.

Having met ME Christians in wartime, they indeed thought they were going through the tribulation. And, were very happy to see US forces rescuing them from the grip of the devil himself... Yeah, Saddam H. It was not the end ( for all of the folks there).

Christians throughout history endured tribulation, death, torture on a wide scale during regional and almost world wide proportions, but that was not the end. It WAS their tribulation. However, THE tribulation is a specific, described series of events over a period of time wherein Gods Wrath is poured out over all those who refused to accept Christs propitionary sacrifice of HIS life for theirs, the bearing of their unrighteousness in exchange for HIS righteousness and therefore acceptance by God the Father.

That ends with the Second coming of Christ physically on the Mount of Olives to put all things right on the earth until the end. At which time the Judgment occurs ( of all flesh, those unsaved and alive to damnation for failing to take Christ, and those found written in the book of LIFE to eternal acceptance and bliss, and then the remanufacture of the earth and the new Jerusalem marching on into eternity.

The Catching away of the Saints ( Harpazdo/Rapture etc) is clearly written . Not sure how one can reject that scripture without rejecting it all.

Comparing suffering of saints through the age with the end of days is not logical nor described in scripture.

My Heavenly Father redeemed me ( bought me back) and while I am unworthy but for Christs reflection, I know my Redeemer lives and He will not punish me with the ungodly, however, the world will hate me in the meantime.

Worldly tribulation at the hands of ungodly men sure, but unfair punishment ( mass punishment if you will) of believers ( Righteous in Gods eyes because of Christ) and unbeliever alike is seemingly uncharacteristic of God the Father.

Let scripture interpret scripture. First, literal, then contextual and finally in toto....

In the end, the only real question needing an answer is “Have you personally accepted Christ as your personal savior? His life for yours? All else is just details....which will work out for the good of the Believer, for the worst for the unbeliever.


193 posted on 11/12/2019 8:48:08 AM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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