[Cronos]

The author says - this pre-Trib rap teaching is from Satan

[Big Red Badger]

Yup.

[aberaussie]

bttt

[fatboy]

I don’t know about you but I get all of my personal theology from the interwebs. Who needs the Bible?

[fwdude]

There are at least two types of “falling away.” The ones who were pretenders and “believers of convenience” were likely never effectively born again to begin with. The falling away of those who professed a convincing commitment to the gospel is a completely different animal, and is the one referred to by scripture.

These are the Evangelical pastors who later “come out as ‘gay’” and are now ardent apostles of Satan. We are seeing that more and more now.

It is our great error to confuse the two.

[Karliner]

Well, I’d like to see people validating Jesus pouring out the vials and all His wrath on His own who have HIS Holy Spirit...seems to be cruel and unusual punishment for those who have come to Jesus. If you think Jesus is that cruel as to kill His own when Lucifer reigns on earth, I’m sure you have a very joyful church and a very sadistic Jesus.

[P-Marlowe]

There is going to be a pre-trib rapture. The way things are going now, with all the churches falling into apostasy, no one who is left behind will notice and most people will rejoice that all those fundamentalist Christians are gone.

The biggest danger to Christians today is the crap being spewed from apostate pulpits.

[efs111]

There’s gonna be a lot of things that will surprise Christians when Yeshua (Jesus) returns. For one thing, he’s going to be a lot more Jewish than most people currently believe. Unfortunately, out of anti-Semitism, or just plain ignorance, the Jewish holidays that are described in Leviticus chapter 23 were all but eliminated from holidays Christians currently celebrate. As stated in the Bible, when the children of Israel left Egypt, they weren’t the only ones who left. “And the children of Israel journeyed from Rameses to Succoth, about six hundred thousand on foot that were men, beside children. And a mixed multitude went up also with them; and flocks, and herds, even very much cattle.” ‭‭Exodus‬ ‭12:37-38‬ ‭KJV‬‬ https://www.bible.com/1/exo.12.37-38.kjv That mixed multitude was also expected to celebrate the same holidays and take up the same practices as the children of Israel. “One law and one manner shall be for you, and for the stranger that sojourneth with you.” ‭‭Numbers‬ ‭15:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬ https://www.bible.com/1/num.15.16.kjv Yeshua celebrated all of the high holidays and feasts described in the Torah. Additionally, He said He did not come to destroy the Torah but to fulfill it. Also, there was very little, if any, discussion about a Pre-tribulation rapture for the first 1800 years after Yeshua’s crucifixion. It would also be a real slap in the face to those early believers who are fed to the lions, crucified, burned at the stake, or whatever else they had to endure if today’s believers got a pass and were raptured out of here prior to the Tribulation. You know, we Americans really have had it fairly easy with persecution as compared to the rest of the world. We have not suffered like believers have in countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran, or Communist China. There may come a time when we too will have to endure as believers in those countries have had to do. If or when that time comes, I believe the Lord will equip us to triumph under those conditions.

[zerosix]

I only answer this question for those folks here who might wind up going down the wrong path (not for the author of the piece, for if he knows the truth chooses not to believe anyway).

Yes, the Holy Bible does not use our current English word “rapture;” the Bible also does not use our word, “trinity” nor does it use the word “homosexual” but it surely does mention all three words in more than one place with actual descriptions of all three; homosexual - Leviticus 20:13; Trinity- Matthew 28:19, 2 Corinthians; Rapture - 1 Thessalonians 4:17!

The Bible is a book of word pictures and concepts, which to the “wise of this world” are mere folly. “He catches the wise in their craftiness.”

[MayflowerMadam]

“Threat” is a bit much. It’s a different take on a doctrine, but hardly a threat.

[David]

There are several points that one can draw from the scripture.

First, it is not possible to know the timing of the rapture, either relative to other events which we can understand and may be able to see or on the overall timeline.

Two, there are several timeline points which are impossible to reconcile to a specific point in the developments. Those points are:

The rapture does not happen until the man of sin is revealed.

We who remain can believe that the rapture will occur prior to the day of Wrath. The last verse in Revelation chapter six, 6:17 says that the day of wrath is at hand—presumably a reasonable reading that it hasn’t started yet a that point but is about to start following the events described earlier in chapter six.

There is no tie between the day of wrath and the Abomination of Desolation event at which the Great Tribulation starts—thus we are not able to determine conclusively when the rapture occurs relative to the beginning of the Great Tribulation period.

So in faith we proceed knowing the truth of what God has told us and recognizing that there are things which He does not think we need to understand but must accept in faith.

[TRY ONE]

The Bible Plainly Teaches A Pre-tribulation Rapture

The Church will be removed from the earth BEFORE the appearing of the Antichrist (2nd Thessalonians 2:7,8). There isn’t one verse in the entire Bible which indicates that the Church will go through the Tribulation period.

God will not put His Children (Believers) through the Tribulation Period.

[Linda Frances]

My church teaches maybe, hopefully pre-trib, but be prepared to go through it all.

[_Jim]

re: “The biggest threat to Christians is the teaching of a pre-tribulation rapture”

Not if you’re Catholic.

[MuttTheHoople]

I’m pan-trib... In the end, it all pans out!

[ealgeone]

No...the biggest threat to Christianity is the false teaching that there are things you have to do besides have faith in Christ, and only Christ, for your salvation.

Many of these are found in Roman Catholicism.

We can start with the false idol of the Brown Scapular which wrongly promises the wearer they will avoid the eternal fire IF they wear the idol correctly and do certain things.

Do you wear one of these?

[nralife]

This already long and indecisive thread is a perfect argument against the reformation and sola scriptura In general.