Posted on 08/28/2019 8:31:47 AM PDT by Olog-hai
Isn’t it enough that we believe in the same God, and that Jews have owned that land longer than anyone else claiming it, and therefore have a right to it?
I NEVER thought of Christian Zionism in such dark terms.
But I know almost nothing about them or how the majority thinks.
Anyone who does care to elucidate?
That’s my 25 cent word of the week :)
Ping.
This is a common conspiracy theory about Christian Zionism among liberal Jews, and of course liberals at large (who would include antisemites).
Kinda remarkable that this rebuttal appears in the Forward, which is itself socialistic.
Perhaps Christian Zionism is less about Jews and more about Protestants refuting the Replacement Theology of the Catholic Church.
In Christian terms, the whole idea of having some kind of special relationship with a country or people whose defining characteristic for two thousand years has been their rejection of Jesus Christ is bizarre, to say the least.
Gotcha.
Yeah I never heard of it described this way before.
I thought Christian Zionists believed Israelis to be the chosen people and Israel to be a fulfillment that the Jews would have their own land again.
And I might be way off on this.
I’m not well read on this topic.
This article is all over the map, especially with respect to John Hagee. The man does not preach the “prosperity gospel”. He does have a heavy emphasis on his eschatological views, which revolve around Israel. Any sense of blessing of a nation or individual by being kindly disposed toward Israel reflects back to God’s original covenant with Abraham, including “I will bless them that bless thee and curse him that curseth thee.”
Secondly, no serious proponent of dispensational eschatology would ever teach that any of our tenets can ever do anything to hasten or retard the apocalypse. Nor would he ever overlook the fact that God has His own special end-times agenda vis a vis Israel which none of us can affect one way or the other.
No, you’re not way off.
The liberal Jews and the other liberals are who are way off.
Gotcha.
The rejection was prophesied, and the writings of Paul make it clear that this is a means of their salvation.
Having read the article, it appears that the Israelis don’t understand much how little authority and how small the followings preachers in the United States generally have.
They try to look a a smattering of megachurch pastors and authors whose appeal sells to secular audiences enough to get them on bestsellers lists, and then assume that those sources which have already been prescreened to appeal to secular culture somewhat represent the bulk of Christians.
As "bizarre" as the biblical command that the Good News is to be proclaimed "to the Jew first."
Rejection or no rejection, the command stands.
I agree that the article is scatter-brained even if it makes a couple valid points. It is from the socialist Forward, after all.
Evangelical support for the nation of Israel is well beyond a smattering.
Well worth reading by Zionist Jews and Zionist Christians.
Then the other things don’t matter? Being God’s chosen people, being given that land by God himself, all the prophets and the Bible, that Jesus was Jewish, or that Christianity itself is only a branch of the original tree of Judaism, albeit one they generally reject? There’s no cultural connection from all that?
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