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Why Heretics Hate Mary and We Should Love Her More
One Peter Five ^ | August 5, 2019 | Timothy Flanders

Posted on 08/07/2019 3:20:08 PM PDT by ebb tide

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To: grey_whiskers

where in Scripture do i find this delegation to Mary?


81 posted on 08/07/2019 4:24:18 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Salvation
Was she the mother of Jesus? Doesn’t that make her special to you?

Per what Luke wrote,

48“For He has had regard for the humble state of His bondslave; For behold, from this time on all generations will count me blessed.

Luke 1:48 NASB

Nothing more, nothing less.

82 posted on 08/07/2019 4:25:15 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: gcparent
Here we go with the anti Catholic stuff again.

Something is either true or it is false.

Scripture either says something or it does not.

If it isn't found in Scripture, but it is presented as true, it is right to ask on what basis it would be true.

And Mary is called "blessed" everywhere as was foretold.

But she has been made into a demigoddess, which is false.

83 posted on 08/07/2019 4:26:28 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: deks
So it appears that he/she does believe that Mary has the attributes of God (omniscient and omnipresent), to be able to hear everyone's prayers.

What appears to you is just your imagination. You don't speak for me.

84 posted on 08/07/2019 4:26:34 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: moonhawk

How? Easy. SHE WAS FULL OF GRACE BECAUSE JESUS WAS INCARNATE IN HER.


85 posted on 08/07/2019 4:26:52 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Sirius Lee
Show me where, in the Bible, we are to pray "through" her to get God's attention.

"BIBLE! We don't need no bible!!"

- Catholic Dude


86 posted on 08/07/2019 4:27:55 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ebb tide
I have heard protestants on this forum claim: Mary is not a virgin. Mary had pre-marital sex Mary slept with several men. Mary sinned. None of the above is in scripture.

Mary was a sinner - she said she needed a Savior.

Mary was a virgin until after Christ was born. They waited.

The rest, I've never seen on the Religion forum in the past 20 years.

Post some links please.

87 posted on 08/07/2019 4:29:33 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ebb tide

Close but no cigar. first of all I have not said most of those things so you are addressing the wrong person

The two I agree with and are is scripture: Mary did not remain a virgin after Jesus. His siblings are named in Scripture. And she was not sinless. She calls Christ her savior. A sinless woman has no need of a savior.


88 posted on 08/07/2019 4:29:57 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: Mom MD
It's one of the truths the disciples weren't ready yet to hear. Duh. I don't accept the entirety of Sola Scriptura. Appealing to it is not a Trump card with me;not as most Protestants on these threads apply it.
89 posted on 08/07/2019 4:30:32 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Exactly. The RCC teaches that the Church the Body of Christ is composed of 1. Christ is the head. 2. We are the Body, 3. Mary is the throat that connects the Head to the Body.
Tell me with a straight face AND Scripture where that belief came from.
Words mean SOMETHING
Not


90 posted on 08/07/2019 4:30:44 PM PDT by smvoice (I WILL NOT WEAR THE RIBBON. I'm. AN ANTI DEMITE)
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To: Freeborn
Scripture says the Angel proclaimed her “full of grace”. That is sinless. That certainly is above me.

No. The vulgate translation is not correct.

Luke 1:28 is more properly rendered, "28And coming in, he said to her, “Greetings, favored one! The Lord is with you.”"

The NABRE renders the passage as: 28 And coming to her, he said, “Hail, favored one! The Lord is with you.”

The NRSV renders the passage as:

28 And he came to her and said, “Greetings, favored one! The Lord is with you.”[a]

The Greek word used here does not connatate sinlessness.

No where in Scripture is Mary, or any other created being, ever accorded being sinless. Only Christ is.

91 posted on 08/07/2019 4:31:40 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

That isn’t what they’re saying.


92 posted on 08/07/2019 4:31:40 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: smvoice
Tell me with a straight face AND Scripture where that belief came from.

Greek paganism.

93 posted on 08/07/2019 4:32:00 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ebb tide
Now I’m convinced you are not a Catholic.

Show me where I am wrong. I stated: ""Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

If praying to Mary is the way to heaven, then why did Jesus have to die on the cross?

Show me where, in the Bible, we are to pray "through" her to get God's attention. Go ahead. I'll wait."

With what do you disagree? Prove me wrong. I suspect you may be a brother or sister in Christ, but if you're going to through accusations around, have the spiritual and intellectual grace to back it up. Refute me/correct me. I have not shaken the dust from my sandals in regard to you. Are you so hard of heart that you have no regard for a fellow Christian?

94 posted on 08/07/2019 4:32:03 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (“They are openly planning to murder you. Have a plan to prevent that.”)
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To: grey_whiskers
That isn’t what they’re saying.

Hey, better talk to Catholic Dude. He said it.

95 posted on 08/07/2019 4:32:35 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: gcparent; aMorePerfectUnion
Here we go with the anti Catholic stuff again.

Here we go with Scripture contradicting Catholic stuff....again.

96 posted on 08/07/2019 4:33:26 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: gcparent; Mom MD; Elsie
Why do non Catholic Christians feel the need to insult Catholics Faith. I don’t see Catholics doing that to other Christian denominations. We don’t care how you practice your faith.

Hey, Elsie....got any artwork tonight?

97 posted on 08/07/2019 4:34:47 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

*snerk*


98 posted on 08/07/2019 4:35:40 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: Mom MD
And she was not sinless.

What was/were Mary's sin(s)?

If you can't name them, why defame the Mother of God?

I call that hatred. Thanks again for proving the article's point. You've been a great help.

99 posted on 08/07/2019 4:36:12 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: Mom MD
A comparison of Roman Catholic writings on this with Scripture.

The contradictions are crystal clear.

The Glories of Mary Scripture
Lady in heaven, we have but one advocate, and that is thyself, and thou alone art truly loving and solicitous for our salvation. 5For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 1 Tim 2:5

But that she is so, is evident from the fact, that whatever the Mother asks for, the Son never denies her; and this was revealed to Saint Bridget. 14This is the confidence which we have before Him, that, if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us. 1 Jn 5:14

Saint Anselm says, ‘that as it is impossible for one who is not devout to Mary, and consequently not protected by her, to be saved,. 28and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. Jn 10:27-28

St. Bonaventure notes: In thee, O Lady, have I placed all my hopes; and thus I confidently trust that I shall never be lost, but praise and love thee for ever in heaven 9that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; Rm 10:9

Saint Andrew of Crete, calls Mary, ‘a pledge, a security for our reconciliation with God.’, who is given as a pledge of our inheritance, … Eph 1:13-14

Alphonsus de Liguori, The Glories of Mary, (Tucker, London, 1868), 249. Liguori, 190. Ibid, 146. Ibid, 84. Ibid, 170.

100 posted on 08/07/2019 4:36:42 PM PDT by ealgeone
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