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Why Heretics Hate Mary and We Should Love Her More
One Peter Five ^ | August 5, 2019 | Timothy Flanders

Posted on 08/07/2019 3:20:08 PM PDT by ebb tide

Why Heretics Hate Mary and We Should Love Her More

Marian devotion is the cure for heresy and the healing of all heretics. We must turn to her for refuge from the heretical depravity now consuming the Church. Marian devotion is the destruction of error, the fount of humility, and a potent safeguard for orthodox faith.

Mary Is the Destroyer of All Heresies

In True Devotion to Mary, St. Louis de Montfort writes:

The most infallible and indubitable sign by which we may distinguish a heretic, a man of bad doctrine, a reprobate, from one of the predestinate, is that the heretic and the reprobate have nothing but contempt and indifference for our Blessed Lady, endeavoring by their words and examples to diminish the veneration and love of her. (30)

In the Tract for the Mass Salve Sancta Parens, the Church sings, “Rejoice, O Virgin Mary, thou alone hast destroyed all heresies.” From this, Pope St. Pius X invoked her as “Destroyer of Heresies” in Pascendi 58. And again, it was in the context of St. Dominic’s war against heresy that the Holy Rosary, Mary’s psalter, was revealed.

Thus, it is manifest that Our Lady holds a special place in the relationship of Holy Church with heresy and heretics. Why is this? It is because the root cause of heresy is not anger, lust, or sloth, but pride. A formal heretic pridefully and obstinately rejects the authority of the Church and the authority of the Fathers. His whole opinion hinges on an imaginary antiquarianism created by his pride. And it is against the sin of pride that Our Lady most perfectly shows her power. This is why St. Louis says in another place:

[Satan] fears her not only more than all Angels and men, but in some sense more than God Himself … because Satan, being proud, suffers infinitely more from being beaten and punished by a little and humble handmaid of God, and her humility humbles him more than the Divine power. (True Devotion, 52)

Demons and heretics fear her because she threatens to humble them. The latter impiously attack her under the pretense that they are safeguarding the honor due to God. In reality, they know that Mary will destroy their prideful opinions. “Humility is an abomination to the proud ” (Ecclus. 13:24).

How Mary Humbles the Proud

When the Holy Spirit exalted Mary by the mouth of St. Elizabeth, Mary said:

He hath shewed might in his arm: he hath scattered the proud in the conceit of their heart. He hath put down the mighty from their seat and hath exalted the humble. (Lk. 1:51)

Devotion to Mary brings humility to the soul. Just as St. John heard her voice and leaped for joy, and St. Elizabeth immediately humbled herself, saying “Who am I that the mother of my Lord should come to me?” (Lk. 1:43), we too know this humility when we exalt Mary.

Mary humbles us because God wills that Jesus Christ be manifested to the world through her. According to nature, any man is her equal. According to grace and merit, she is “more honorable than the cherubim, and beyond compare more glorious than the Seraphim” [1]. In Mary, our humility is truly tested because she is a human, not God.

Humility toward God is presumed by all, and heretics falsely think themselves humble because they say they submit to God. But their pride is revealed when they refuse to submit to man — both legitimate authority and the sayings of the wise. “The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that is wise hearkeneth unto counsels” (Prov. 12:15).

A humble man may even debase himself before wicked men, as our Lord did.  But heretics have no humility toward men. In reality, heretics are attempting to impose their private opinion on all authorities. They have no humility toward any human but are consumed in their own selves. As the history of Protestantism has shown, it is easy to feign humility toward God while exalting yourself over every man. This is the way of all the heretics.

One who is humble toward Mary will be humble toward authority. Mary especially checks the pride of heretics by proclaiming that they cannot have their own private, “personal Jesus,” since our Lord has forever bound Himself to His mother by His incarnation. In the same way that the Incarnation is the foundation of our redemption — without which there can be no Passion or Resurrection — the human person of Jesus Christ cannot exist without the person of Mary [2]. As I have written in another place, true union with Christ will result in love of Mary as our mother, who was also the first natural cause of His appearance to the world.

Marian Devotion is a test for orthodoxy

Since Marian Devotion is the fount of humility, it becomes a powerful test for orthodoxy. For example, when St. John Vianney’s lack of intelligence presented a barrier to his ordination, he was evaluated like this:

The vicar-general asked the superior of the seminary: ‘Is young Vianney pious? Is he devoted to the Blessed Virgin?’ The authorities were able to assure him fully upon these points. ‘Then,’ said the vicar-general, ‘I will receive him. Divine grace will do the rest.’ [3]

And so the Church ordained the future patron of parish priests. Sometimes it is as simple as asking if a man has Marian devotion. If a man is truly devoted to our Lady, he can be no heretic. St. Louis again:

“If you follow her,” says St. Bernard, “you cannot wander from the road.” Fear not, therefore, that a true child of Mary can be deceived by the evil one, or fall into any formal heresy. There where the guidance of Mary is, neither the evil spirit with his illusions, nor the heretics with their subtleties, can ever come — Ipsa tenente, non corruis. (True Devotion, 209) [4]

Thus, it is unsurprising that when we read through Building a Bridge by James Martin, S.J., a book purported to be about mercy and compassion, not a single page mentions the Mother of mercy and compassion. In fact, on page 130, he even erroneously asserts that at the Resurrection, Mary Magdalene was the first Christian, implicitly denying our Lady and the entire tradition of her Saturday memorial in which her sole faithfulness is commemorated. The examples of his warped or deficient Marian piety are only too easy to find [5].

But it is even more disturbing when we read how the Rhine group at Vatican II successfully suppressed the document on the Mother of God, relegating it, by a narrow vote, to the final section in Lumen Gentium (against the protests from Eastern Catholic bishops and others) [6]. When their efforts to suppress Marian devotion were opposed by Paul VI (to his credit), the time became known to them as “Black Week” [7]. Perhaps more alarming, Ratzinger himself admits that his Marian piety was weak in Last Testament and seems to imply the false dichotomy that Marian piety is not Christocentric [8]. Without succumbing to the sin of rash judgment, it is nevertheless suggestive that this lack of Marian piety correlates with an apparent hubris on the part of many Vatican II “reformers.”

Whatever the true state of these and other men with an apparent reluctance to love and honor their own mother, we can be certain that our Blessed Lady is a sure refuge from heresy. As Fr. Ripperger has stated, without a strong intellectual formation, everyone becomes a Modernist in our corrupt society. That is why we must cling to Our Lady for refuge from heretics and heresy in our time.

True devotion to Mary keeps us safe from the excesses of pride. Even more in our day, let us consider: she stood firm, though she witnessed the Passion and death of our Lord. We also must stand firm, even as we are witnessing the passion and death of the Church. Moreover, it seems clear from her frequent apparitions since the 19th century that Our Lord has purposed His mother for a special role in resolving this crisis. Let us pray our daily rosary and make the First Saturdays. Let us abide with Our Lady in the Passion of the Church and never lose hope for the Glorious Resurrection.


[1] Eastern Catholic Marian antiphon

[2] So too the mediation of the Sacraments — through another human — we receive our Lord.

[3] The Life of Saint John Vianney, The Curé of Ars, ch. 1

[4] It should be noted that Marian devotion is not an infallible test for orthodoxy, but merely a general rule against which there can be significant exceptions. Some Protestants, although material heretics, are in fact humble, and some Catholics are orthodox with little or no Marian piety. However, no man can be truly devoted to Our Lady and be a heretic. Moreover, formal heresy is defined as an error in the intellect and an obstinate will. It is particularly the latter from which Mary keeps us safe.

[5] I refuse to expose the reader to any further abuse of Our Lady from James Martin. Suffice it to say I have searched in vain for a substantial treatment or promotion of Marian devotion from Martin, and he admits in My Life with the Saints, p. 345ff., that his Marian devotion, which was shallow in his youth, was formed by the Jesuits as an imitation model, not the traditional, primarily mediatrix role. If his Marian devotion does go beyond sentimentality, let him publicly and explicitly disavow every heresy of which he is accused.

[6] See Rev. Ralph Wiltgen, The Rhine Flows into the Tiber (Augustine, 1979), 90ff.

[7] See Ibid., 234ff. The Rhine group was opposing Paul VI’s honoring of our Lady as “Mother of the Church” as well as his actions regarding collegiality, religious liberty, and ecumenism.

[8] See Benedict XVI, Last Testament, trans. Jacob Phillips (Bloomsbury, 2016), 70ff. As I have read more into Ratzinger, despite his obvious strengths, more of his theology has concerned me. This point was another red flag


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology
KEYWORDS: maryworship; spanishinquisition
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To: Bommer

Are you kidding? No one prays to Joseph. What the neck is March 19th every year?


61 posted on 08/07/2019 4:11:59 PM PDT by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: justa-hairyape

“Se has been praying for us for a few thousand years.”

Where is that in the Bible?


62 posted on 08/07/2019 4:12:12 PM PDT by A strike (Import third world become third world)
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To: moonhawk

i have no hate except for false doctrine that dishonors my Lord.


63 posted on 08/07/2019 4:12:23 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: All

So it is Mary vs. The Pope? Rooting for Mary.


64 posted on 08/07/2019 4:12:57 PM PDT by Drago
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To: Sirius Lee
Let me get this straight: You claim you're a Catholic but will not pray a Rosary or even a single Hail Mary?

Very interesting.

65 posted on 08/07/2019 4:13:21 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: BipolarBob

” Mary is dead. “

Really? She’s not alive in heaven? There’s no life after death? No Resurrection? Jesus is a liar? What an odd statement!


66 posted on 08/07/2019 4:13:35 PM PDT by moonhawk (Excuse me...Did you just presume the gender of the Earth Deity?)
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To: ebb tide

you seem to equate not worshipping someone with hating them. I do. of hate Mary at all and look forward to meeting her. I just don’t worship her.


67 posted on 08/07/2019 4:13:45 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: moonhawk

She is u doubtably alive in Heaven. Able to hear prayers and grant petitions? Not so much. Nowhere in scripture are we told to pray to anyone but God


68 posted on 08/07/2019 4:15:27 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: A strike

I don’t know official teaching, but the line in Hebrews about you have come to the assembly of the firstborn ...and the spirits of just men made perfect”
Hebrews 12:23 but cut-n-paste isn’t working in my phone.
Try BibleHub and the King James Version.

He conquered death, and they are made perfect (therefore their prayers are listened to, as it says in 1 John “if we ask anything according to His Will He hears us”.

Seems to me it kinda follows, at that point.


69 posted on 08/07/2019 4:16:27 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: ebb tide
You claim you're a Catholic but will not pray a Rosary or even a single Hail Mary?

Nope. "Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

If praying to Mary is the way to heaven, then why did Jesus have to die on the cross?

Show me where, in the Bible, we are to pray "through" her to get God's attention. Go ahead. I'll wait.

70 posted on 08/07/2019 4:17:48 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (“They are openly planning to murder you. Have a plan to prevent that.”)
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To: Mom MD
...and look forward to meeting her.

Highly doubtful, in my opinion.

71 posted on 08/07/2019 4:19:02 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: Mom MD

Why do non Catholic Christians feel the need to insult Catholics Faith. I don’t see Catholics doing that to other Christian denominations. We don’t care how you practice your faith.


72 posted on 08/07/2019 4:19:57 PM PDT by gcparent (Justice Brett Kavanaugh)
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To: Sirius Lee

Now I’m convinced you are not a Catholic. Thanks for proving so.


73 posted on 08/07/2019 4:20:11 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

Jesus is the Life Preserver. Mary is the Rope He Chose To Reel Us In.

In Captains Courageous, with Spencer Tracey, Freddy Batholomew is a blowhard millionaire's son who is socially, poorly adjusted. He uses his father's incredible wealth, to bully his classmates and even his teacher, but he's roundly disliked, and ostracized. While on an ocean liner, he unsuccessfully tries to impress some other boys by eating 5 ice cream sodas. When he has to throw up, to escape the mocking boys, he runs into a lifeboat area to evade their ridicule while purging his overindulgence, and manages to fall overboard into the ocean.

Instances of people falling overboard into the open ocean are rather commonly reported in the news. Usually they are lost, but if by chance their accidents are observed and a life-preserver is thrown to them, is that the end of the story, do we just say, "oh, well, you have a floatation device, you're okay now"?

No, we have to pull them in. The life-preserver, the lifesaver, is only part of the formula for saving their lives. There is also a rope, which must be attached to the life-preserver, and must be used to finally accomplish their salvation.

Jesus Christ is the one mediator between God and man. But on the man side of the equation, unlike the radical individuality most typified by J.J. Rousseau, we who life the life of Christians do so in communities. But even then, we do not abide as atomistic individualists. We live our Jesus-oriented life in relation to our fellows. "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching." – Hebrews 10:25.

Jesus' first disciple was his mother, who gave us the total account of his early life and who "treasured these things up in her heart". "A sword will pierce your own soul too, so that the secret thoughts of many hearts might be revealed". On the cross, he gave his mother to John to take in his home, but when you take your master's mother, she takes care of you.

Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple; and there were flashes of lightning, voices, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail. And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; she was with child and she cried out in her pangs of birth, in anguish for delivery.
And another portent appeared in heaven; behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems upon his heads. His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to bear a child, that he might devour her child when she brought it forth; she brought forth a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne, and the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, in which to be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days. …
And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown down to the earth, he pursued the woman who had borne the male child. But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle that she might fly from the serpent into the wilderness, to the place where she is to be nourished for a time, and times, and half a time. The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with the flood. But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed the river which the dragon had poured from his mouth. Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus. - Rev 11:19 -- 12:17

She forms the body of Christ. She schools her son's disciples. Those who won't attend her school, remain ignorant.

We are in a time when any merely human institution would be washed away. Our churches are going under the shadow of a new Heresy of Ba'al of Peor, as when the Hebrew people were successfully attacked and overwhelmed through human sexuality. Our churches are now pro-gay and as soon as the civil authority authorizes child sex, they will be indistinguishable from the denizens of the town of Sodom: "Bring them out that we may know them".

Jesus' mother forms the few of the elect who will resist being fooled by the great apostasy. Those who will not avail themselves of the lifeline of Mary, will be lost.

74 posted on 08/07/2019 4:21:33 PM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: Mom MD

Delegated, not intrinsic.
As ultimately, all power and authority is.


75 posted on 08/07/2019 4:22:08 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: ebb tide

So now you are a mind reader and calling me a liar?


76 posted on 08/07/2019 4:22:29 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: grey_whiskers

Thank you, but I’m not drawing that line.
Especially asking the departed to pray for the living. That Biblical to you?


77 posted on 08/07/2019 4:22:58 PM PDT by A strike (Import third world become third world)
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To: Mom MD

I have heard protestants on this forum claim:

Mary is not a virgin.

Mary had pre-marital sex

Mary slept with several men.

Mary sinned.

None of the above is in scripture.


78 posted on 08/07/2019 4:23:03 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: Old Yeller; ebb tide
To: ebb tide

"Nowhere is Mary worshiped; She is only asked to pray for us, both Catholics and non-Catholics."

So you're saying Mary has the attributes of God (omniscient and omnipresent), in order to hear everyone's prayers?

[#24 Old Yeller]
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Hey Old Yeller, how ya doin'

I clicked on "View Replies" to see if Ebb Tide or anyone answered your question, although I can often guess when the result will be "No Replies".

Ebb tide did reply to another question: "How can Mary pray for us?" ...answering, "When we ask Her; that's all you need to do." So it appears that he/she does believe that Mary has the attributes of God (omniscient and omnipresent), to be able to hear everyone's prayers.

79 posted on 08/07/2019 4:23:11 PM PDT by deks
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To: Mom MD

Neither.


80 posted on 08/07/2019 4:23:40 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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