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To: Mom MD

I have heard protestants on this forum claim:

Mary is not a virgin.

Mary had pre-marital sex

Mary slept with several men.

Mary sinned.

None of the above is in scripture.


78 posted on 08/07/2019 4:23:03 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide
I have heard protestants on this forum claim: Mary is not a virgin. Mary had pre-marital sex Mary slept with several men. Mary sinned. None of the above is in scripture.

Mary was a sinner - she said she needed a Savior.

Mary was a virgin until after Christ was born. They waited.

The rest, I've never seen on the Religion forum in the past 20 years.

Post some links please.

87 posted on 08/07/2019 4:29:33 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ebb tide

Close but no cigar. first of all I have not said most of those things so you are addressing the wrong person

The two I agree with and are is scripture: Mary did not remain a virgin after Jesus. His siblings are named in Scripture. And she was not sinless. She calls Christ her savior. A sinless woman has no need of a savior.


88 posted on 08/07/2019 4:29:57 PM PDT by Mom MD
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To: ebb tide

All correct except your repudiation of “Mary sinned.”

“For ALL have sinned ...”
“The soul that sinneth , it shall die.”

If Mary was sinless, she would be alive right?


189 posted on 08/07/2019 6:39:19 PM PDT by A strike (Import third world become third world)
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To: ebb tide
Three outta four you got right.

Mary sinned; you missed.


 
 
 
Luke 2:22-24
 
When the time came for the purification rites required by the Law of Moses, Joseph and Mary took him to Jerusalem to present him to the Lord  (as it is written in the Law of the Lord, “Every firstborn male is to be consecrated to the Lord”),  and to offer a sacrifice in keeping with what is said in the Law of the Lord: “a pair of doves or two young pigeons.”
 

Leviticus 12:7-8
 
Then he shall offer it before the LORD and make atonement for her, and she shall be cleansed from the flow of her blood. This is the law for her who bears a child, whether a male or a female.
'But if she cannot afford a lamb, then she shall take two turtledoves or two young pigeons, the one for a burnt offering and the other for a sin offering; and the priest shall make atonement for her, and she will be clean.'"
 
 
 
 
Sinless Mary??
  Not according to Rome's Book;    1 John 1:8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
 
That's the way it is WRITTEN.
 
THIS is the way it is TAUGHT:  1 John 1:8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us; the only exception being Mary, Mother of GOD, of course.
 Rome has made IT's 'Mary' into a HYPOCRIT, by painting her as SINLESS, yet writing of her going into the temple to make a SIN offering.

206 posted on 08/07/2019 7:04:15 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide; Mom MD
I have heard protestants on this forum claim: Mary is not a virgin. Mary had pre-marital sex Mary slept with several men.

Links, please.

Mary sinned

And yes, that IS in Scripture by her own admission of needing a Savior.

276 posted on 08/07/2019 8:08:56 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: ebb tide
I have heard protestants on this forum claim:.Mary is not a virgin; Mary sinned..

Claiming Mary was not a virgin is heresy; claiming Mary's marriage to Joseph was consummated as is purposed is not heresy.

And insisting that she remained a virgin, while Scripture nowhere states that, and the evidence weighs toward consummation, and the Holy Spirit characteristically notes exceptions to the norm even among lesser figures, is presumption.

And asserting that those who deny perpetual Marian virginity (PMV) since that is what Scripture at least infers, is arrogant false teaching.

444 posted on 08/09/2019 4:39:43 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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