Why Heretics Hate Mary and We Should Love Her More

One Peter Five ^ | August 5, 2019 | Timothy Flanders

[gcparent]

Are you kidding? No one prays to Joseph. What the neck is March 19th every year?

[A strike]

“Se has been praying for us for a few thousand years.”

Where is that in the Bible?

[Mom MD]

i have no hate except for false doctrine that dishonors my Lord.

[Drago]

So it is Mary vs. The Pope? Rooting for Mary.

[ebb tide]

Let me get this straight: You claim you're a Catholic but will not pray a Rosary or even a single Hail Mary?

Very interesting.

[moonhawk]

” Mary is dead. “

Really? She’s not alive in heaven? There’s no life after death? No Resurrection? Jesus is a liar? What an odd statement!

[Mom MD]

you seem to equate not worshipping someone with hating them. I do. of hate Mary at all and look forward to meeting her. I just don’t worship her.

[Mom MD]

She is u doubtably alive in Heaven. Able to hear prayers and grant petitions? Not so much. Nowhere in scripture are we told to pray to anyone but God

[grey_whiskers]

I don’t know official teaching, but the line in Hebrews about you have come to the assembly of the firstborn ...and the spirits of just men made perfect”
Hebrews 12:23 but cut-n-paste isn’t working in my phone.
Try BibleHub and the King James Version.

He conquered death, and they are made perfect (therefore their prayers are listened to, as it says in 1 John “if we ask anything according to His Will He hears us”.

Seems to me it kinda follows, at that point.

[Sirius Lee]

You claim you're a Catholic but will not pray a Rosary or even a single Hail Mary?

Nope. "Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

If praying to Mary is the way to heaven, then why did Jesus have to die on the cross?

Show me where, in the Bible, we are to pray "through" her to get God's attention. Go ahead. I'll wait.

[ebb tide]

...and look forward to meeting her.

Highly doubtful, in my opinion.

[gcparent]

Why do non Catholic Christians feel the need to insult Catholics Faith. I don’t see Catholics doing that to other Christian denominations. We don’t care how you practice your faith.

[ebb tide]

Now I’m convinced you are not a Catholic. Thanks for proving so.

[CharlesOConnell]

Jesus is the Life Preserver. Mary is the Rope He Chose To Reel Us In.

In Captains Courageous, with Spencer Tracey, Freddy Batholomew is a blowhard millionaire's son who is socially, poorly adjusted. He uses his father's incredible wealth, to bully his classmates and even his teacher, but he's roundly disliked, and ostracized. While on an ocean liner, he unsuccessfully tries to impress some other boys by eating 5 ice cream sodas. When he has to throw up, to escape the mocking boys, he runs into a lifeboat area to evade their ridicule while purging his overindulgence, and manages to fall overboard into the ocean.

Instances of people falling overboard into the open ocean are rather commonly reported in the news. Usually they are lost, but if by chance their accidents are observed and a life-preserver is thrown to them, is that the end of the story, do we just say, "oh, well, you have a floatation device, you're okay now"?

No, we have to pull them in. The life-preserver, the lifesaver, is only part of the formula for saving their lives. There is also a rope, which must be attached to the life-preserver, and must be used to finally accomplish their salvation.

Jesus Christ is the one mediator between God and man. But on the man side of the equation, unlike the radical individuality most typified by J.J. Rousseau, we who life the life of Christians do so in communities. But even then, we do not abide as atomistic individualists. We live our Jesus-oriented life in relation to our fellows. "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching." – Hebrews 10:25.

Jesus' first disciple was his mother, who gave us the total account of his early life and who "treasured these things up in her heart". "A sword will pierce your own soul too, so that the secret thoughts of many hearts might be revealed". On the cross, he gave his mother to John to take in his home, but when you take your master's mother, she takes care of you.

Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple; and there were flashes of lightning, voices, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail. And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; she was with child and she cried out in her pangs of birth, in anguish for delivery.

And another portent appeared in heaven; behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems upon his heads. His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to bear a child, that he might devour her child when she brought it forth; she brought forth a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne, and the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, in which to be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days. …

And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown down to the earth, he pursued the woman who had borne the male child. But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle that she might fly from the serpent into the wilderness, to the place where she is to be nourished for a time, and times, and half a time. The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with the flood. But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed the river which the dragon had poured from his mouth. Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus. - Rev 11:19 -- 12:17

She forms the body of Christ. She schools her son's disciples. Those who won't attend her school, remain ignorant.

We are in a time when any merely human institution would be washed away. Our churches are going under the shadow of a new Heresy of Ba'al of Peor, as when the Hebrew people were successfully attacked and overwhelmed through human sexuality. Our churches are now pro-gay and as soon as the civil authority authorizes child sex, they will be indistinguishable from the denizens of the town of Sodom: "Bring them out that we may know them".

Jesus' mother forms the few of the elect who will resist being fooled by the great apostasy. Those who will not avail themselves of the lifeline of Mary, will be lost.

[grey_whiskers]

Delegated, not intrinsic.
As ultimately, all power and authority is.

[Mom MD]

So now you are a mind reader and calling me a liar?

[A strike]

Thank you, but I’m not drawing that line.
Especially asking the departed to pray for the living. That Biblical to you?

[ebb tide]

I have heard protestants on this forum claim:

Mary is not a virgin.

Mary had pre-marital sex

Mary slept with several men.

Mary sinned.

None of the above is in scripture.

[deks]

To: ebb tide

"Nowhere is Mary worshiped; She is only asked to pray for us, both Catholics and non-Catholics."

So you're saying Mary has the attributes of God (omniscient and omnipresent), in order to hear everyone's prayers?

[#24 Old Yeller]
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Hey Old Yeller, how ya doin'

I clicked on "View Replies" to see if Ebb Tide or anyone answered your question, although I can often guess when the result will be "No Replies".

Ebb tide did reply to another question: "How can Mary pray for us?" ...answering, "When we ask Her; that's all you need to do." So it appears that he/she does believe that Mary has the attributes of God (omniscient and omnipresent), to be able to hear everyone's prayers.

[ebb tide]

Neither.