Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Why Heretics Hate Mary and We Should Love Her More
One Peter Five ^ | August 5, 2019 | Timothy Flanders

Posted on 08/07/2019 3:20:08 PM PDT by ebb tide

Why Heretics Hate Mary and We Should Love Her More

Marian devotion is the cure for heresy and the healing of all heretics. We must turn to her for refuge from the heretical depravity now consuming the Church. Marian devotion is the destruction of error, the fount of humility, and a potent safeguard for orthodox faith.

Mary Is the Destroyer of All Heresies

In True Devotion to Mary, St. Louis de Montfort writes:

The most infallible and indubitable sign by which we may distinguish a heretic, a man of bad doctrine, a reprobate, from one of the predestinate, is that the heretic and the reprobate have nothing but contempt and indifference for our Blessed Lady, endeavoring by their words and examples to diminish the veneration and love of her. (30)

In the Tract for the Mass Salve Sancta Parens, the Church sings, “Rejoice, O Virgin Mary, thou alone hast destroyed all heresies.” From this, Pope St. Pius X invoked her as “Destroyer of Heresies” in Pascendi 58. And again, it was in the context of St. Dominic’s war against heresy that the Holy Rosary, Mary’s psalter, was revealed.

Thus, it is manifest that Our Lady holds a special place in the relationship of Holy Church with heresy and heretics. Why is this? It is because the root cause of heresy is not anger, lust, or sloth, but pride. A formal heretic pridefully and obstinately rejects the authority of the Church and the authority of the Fathers. His whole opinion hinges on an imaginary antiquarianism created by his pride. And it is against the sin of pride that Our Lady most perfectly shows her power. This is why St. Louis says in another place:

[Satan] fears her not only more than all Angels and men, but in some sense more than God Himself … because Satan, being proud, suffers infinitely more from being beaten and punished by a little and humble handmaid of God, and her humility humbles him more than the Divine power. (True Devotion, 52)

Demons and heretics fear her because she threatens to humble them. The latter impiously attack her under the pretense that they are safeguarding the honor due to God. In reality, they know that Mary will destroy their prideful opinions. “Humility is an abomination to the proud ” (Ecclus. 13:24).

How Mary Humbles the Proud

When the Holy Spirit exalted Mary by the mouth of St. Elizabeth, Mary said:

He hath shewed might in his arm: he hath scattered the proud in the conceit of their heart. He hath put down the mighty from their seat and hath exalted the humble. (Lk. 1:51)

Devotion to Mary brings humility to the soul. Just as St. John heard her voice and leaped for joy, and St. Elizabeth immediately humbled herself, saying “Who am I that the mother of my Lord should come to me?” (Lk. 1:43), we too know this humility when we exalt Mary.

Mary humbles us because God wills that Jesus Christ be manifested to the world through her. According to nature, any man is her equal. According to grace and merit, she is “more honorable than the cherubim, and beyond compare more glorious than the Seraphim” [1]. In Mary, our humility is truly tested because she is a human, not God.

Humility toward God is presumed by all, and heretics falsely think themselves humble because they say they submit to God. But their pride is revealed when they refuse to submit to man — both legitimate authority and the sayings of the wise. “The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that is wise hearkeneth unto counsels” (Prov. 12:15).

A humble man may even debase himself before wicked men, as our Lord did.  But heretics have no humility toward men. In reality, heretics are attempting to impose their private opinion on all authorities. They have no humility toward any human but are consumed in their own selves. As the history of Protestantism has shown, it is easy to feign humility toward God while exalting yourself over every man. This is the way of all the heretics.

One who is humble toward Mary will be humble toward authority. Mary especially checks the pride of heretics by proclaiming that they cannot have their own private, “personal Jesus,” since our Lord has forever bound Himself to His mother by His incarnation. In the same way that the Incarnation is the foundation of our redemption — without which there can be no Passion or Resurrection — the human person of Jesus Christ cannot exist without the person of Mary [2]. As I have written in another place, true union with Christ will result in love of Mary as our mother, who was also the first natural cause of His appearance to the world.

Marian Devotion is a test for orthodoxy

Since Marian Devotion is the fount of humility, it becomes a powerful test for orthodoxy. For example, when St. John Vianney’s lack of intelligence presented a barrier to his ordination, he was evaluated like this:

The vicar-general asked the superior of the seminary: ‘Is young Vianney pious? Is he devoted to the Blessed Virgin?’ The authorities were able to assure him fully upon these points. ‘Then,’ said the vicar-general, ‘I will receive him. Divine grace will do the rest.’ [3]

And so the Church ordained the future patron of parish priests. Sometimes it is as simple as asking if a man has Marian devotion. If a man is truly devoted to our Lady, he can be no heretic. St. Louis again:

“If you follow her,” says St. Bernard, “you cannot wander from the road.” Fear not, therefore, that a true child of Mary can be deceived by the evil one, or fall into any formal heresy. There where the guidance of Mary is, neither the evil spirit with his illusions, nor the heretics with their subtleties, can ever come — Ipsa tenente, non corruis. (True Devotion, 209) [4]

Thus, it is unsurprising that when we read through Building a Bridge by James Martin, S.J., a book purported to be about mercy and compassion, not a single page mentions the Mother of mercy and compassion. In fact, on page 130, he even erroneously asserts that at the Resurrection, Mary Magdalene was the first Christian, implicitly denying our Lady and the entire tradition of her Saturday memorial in which her sole faithfulness is commemorated. The examples of his warped or deficient Marian piety are only too easy to find [5].

But it is even more disturbing when we read how the Rhine group at Vatican II successfully suppressed the document on the Mother of God, relegating it, by a narrow vote, to the final section in Lumen Gentium (against the protests from Eastern Catholic bishops and others) [6]. When their efforts to suppress Marian devotion were opposed by Paul VI (to his credit), the time became known to them as “Black Week” [7]. Perhaps more alarming, Ratzinger himself admits that his Marian piety was weak in Last Testament and seems to imply the false dichotomy that Marian piety is not Christocentric [8]. Without succumbing to the sin of rash judgment, it is nevertheless suggestive that this lack of Marian piety correlates with an apparent hubris on the part of many Vatican II “reformers.”

Whatever the true state of these and other men with an apparent reluctance to love and honor their own mother, we can be certain that our Blessed Lady is a sure refuge from heresy. As Fr. Ripperger has stated, without a strong intellectual formation, everyone becomes a Modernist in our corrupt society. That is why we must cling to Our Lady for refuge from heretics and heresy in our time.

True devotion to Mary keeps us safe from the excesses of pride. Even more in our day, let us consider: she stood firm, though she witnessed the Passion and death of our Lord. We also must stand firm, even as we are witnessing the passion and death of the Church. Moreover, it seems clear from her frequent apparitions since the 19th century that Our Lord has purposed His mother for a special role in resolving this crisis. Let us pray our daily rosary and make the First Saturdays. Let us abide with Our Lady in the Passion of the Church and never lose hope for the Glorious Resurrection.


[1] Eastern Catholic Marian antiphon

[2] So too the mediation of the Sacraments — through another human — we receive our Lord.

[3] The Life of Saint John Vianney, The Curé of Ars, ch. 1

[4] It should be noted that Marian devotion is not an infallible test for orthodoxy, but merely a general rule against which there can be significant exceptions. Some Protestants, although material heretics, are in fact humble, and some Catholics are orthodox with little or no Marian piety. However, no man can be truly devoted to Our Lady and be a heretic. Moreover, formal heresy is defined as an error in the intellect and an obstinate will. It is particularly the latter from which Mary keeps us safe.

[5] I refuse to expose the reader to any further abuse of Our Lady from James Martin. Suffice it to say I have searched in vain for a substantial treatment or promotion of Marian devotion from Martin, and he admits in My Life with the Saints, p. 345ff., that his Marian devotion, which was shallow in his youth, was formed by the Jesuits as an imitation model, not the traditional, primarily mediatrix role. If his Marian devotion does go beyond sentimentality, let him publicly and explicitly disavow every heresy of which he is accused.

[6] See Rev. Ralph Wiltgen, The Rhine Flows into the Tiber (Augustine, 1979), 90ff.

[7] See Ibid., 234ff. The Rhine group was opposing Paul VI’s honoring of our Lady as “Mother of the Church” as well as his actions regarding collegiality, religious liberty, and ecumenism.

[8] See Benedict XVI, Last Testament, trans. Jacob Phillips (Bloomsbury, 2016), 70ff. As I have read more into Ratzinger, despite his obvious strengths, more of his theology has concerned me. This point was another red flag


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology
KEYWORDS: maryworship; spanishinquisition
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 981-1,0001,001-1,0201,021-1,0401,041-1,047 next last
To: Elsie
BTW Els meister, did you know the USAF now has enlisted pilots again, for the first time since that last MAJOR unpleasantry, more commonly called Workd War 2. So far, it’s only Global Hawk, since enlisted people are not allowed to fly armed aircraft. I would have been in 7th Heaven. 😁😆🙃👊
1,021 posted on 08/17/2019 7:18:32 PM PDT by Mark17 (Once saved, always saved. I am an Ephesians 2:8-9 kind of guy. It is a beautiful thing. Enjoy it)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1009 | View Replies]

To: ealgeone
👊
1,022 posted on 08/17/2019 7:19:51 PM PDT by Mark17 (Once saved, always saved. I am an Ephesians 2:8-9 kind of guy. It is a beautiful thing. Enjoy it)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1019 | View Replies]

To: ealgeone

The thing is that there’s a world of difference between *Paul is my father* and *Father Paul*.

It’s staggering the lengths people will go to to justify disobeying Jesus clear command.


1,023 posted on 08/17/2019 8:49:24 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1020 | View Replies]

To: metmom

Borderline ridiculous...


1,024 posted on 08/17/2019 10:25:59 PM PDT by northislander
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1014 | View Replies]

To: ealgeone

Paul calls himself the father of his converts. Whether he titled himself “Father Paul” is a distinction without a difference. Jesus never specified titles or official forms of address


1,025 posted on 08/18/2019 4:46:49 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (I bow my knees before the Father, from whom every family on earth derives its name. - Eph 3:14-15)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1020 | View Replies]

To: metmom

“So tell me, is THIS the One True church, body of Christ which is supposed to be the only way thorough which salvation MAY BE attained, but not guaranteed?”

You and I both can say a resounding “NO” to that question.


1,026 posted on 08/18/2019 5:21:06 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1013 | View Replies]

To: Mrs. Don-o; ealgeone
Jesus never specified titles or official forms of address

Matthew 23:1-12 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses' seat, so do and observe whatever they tell you, but not the works they do. For they preach, but do not practice.

They tie up heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on people's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to move them with their finger. They do all their deeds to be seen by others. For they make their phylacteries broad and their fringes long, and they love the place of honor at feasts and the best seats in the synagogues and greetings in the marketplaces and being called rabbi by others.

But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all brothers. And call no man your father on earth, for you have one Father, who is in heaven. Neither be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Christ. The greatest among you shall be your servant. Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.

It cannot be much clearer.

I can only conclude that people don't see what Jesus meant because they don't want to see. There can be no other reason.

1,027 posted on 08/18/2019 5:32:57 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1025 | View Replies]

To: Roman_War_Criminal

AMEN!!!!!


1,028 posted on 08/18/2019 5:33:36 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1026 | View Replies]

To: af_vet_1981; metmom; Mark17; Elsie

When you can figure out what it means to be BORN AGAIN, get back to me. Until then, this merry-go-round conversation with you of behavior driven works with in exchange for ‘salvation’ is adolescent.
-
The Self-Flagellation of Roman Catholics (as if their dirty filthy deeds can help them approach The Lord) is about as fruitless of a work as “holy water”, confession to a sin-filled priest, and constant repetitive prayers that mock Jesus (Matthew 6:7) and shows paganism.


1,029 posted on 08/18/2019 6:28:39 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 982 | View Replies]

To: Mark17

When you try to lift Mary higher than her Creator, King, Savior, and LORD - you project any argument against placing deity status on her as ‘HATE’.

The real Mary is appalled and mortified that billions have replaced worship of The Lord of the Universe with the golden calf worship of her.

She was sinful and needed salvation just like everybody else - except for ONE. (Romans 3:23)


1,030 posted on 08/18/2019 6:37:07 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Like Enoch, Noah, & Lot, the True Church will soon be removed & then destruction comes forth.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 989 | View Replies]

To: metmom
You'll have to explain, then, why U.S. Protestants called their senior clergy, founders and missionaries "Father" for over 200 years, and nobody raised a fuss about this until the 1840's. (I've heard it argued by some polemicists on this very forum that the Holy Spirit was effectively silenced until 1517, but --- until 1840? --- Seriously...)

The (non-Irish) Catholics, at the time, were calling their diocesan clergy (the typical parish priests) "Mister" or the vernacular equivalent (Monsieur, Senor) or Don/Dom.

This all switched around when Irish refugees --- who called both monastic and ordinary parish clergy "Father" ----started pouring into the U.S. during the Great Hunger (1840's).

This IS interesting (LINK).

`

VERY interesting (LINK)

`

I do ask you to read it and comment.

I find it rather telling, that when the most literal of the Fundamentalidts were getting organized in the U.S., they called their pastors "Father," and read Jesus' words about "father,""master," and "teacher" as injunctions against the Pharisees' vainglory, not a ban on applying those words to "any man on earth."

What changed that? Read the history: Irish immigration.

As the author says,

In a class by itself is "Reverend." The most common designation for contemporary Protestant clergy, it also seems the most objectionable. To be sure, "Reverend" is gender-free. But it possesses neither a biblical nor a patristic lineage. The King James Version employs the word only once (for God, in Psalms 111:9)..."

And the Protestant fondness for "Doctor" really clinches the case. "Doctor" is, of course, directly and explicitly "teacher," --- found in verses 9 and 10, almost never quoted in these discussions of Matthew 2:8, 9, and 10.

Strong's

doctor, master, teacher.

From didasko; an instructor (genitive case or specially) -- doctor, master, teacher.

See GREEK didasko

Shall we ban the vainglorious M.Div? Or erase "Doctor" from all those learned Protestant, Fundamentalist and Evangelical clergy??

You tell me.

1,031 posted on 08/18/2019 7:56:45 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (I bow my knees before the Father, from whom every family on earth derives its name. - Eph 3:14-15)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1027 | View Replies]

To: metmom
`

`` + ┏┓
┃┃╱╲ in
┃╱╱╲╲ this
╱╱╭╮╲╲ house
▔▏┗┛▕▔ we
╱▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔▔╲
protect pre-born babies
╱╱┏┳┓╭╮┏┳┓ ╲╲
▔▏┗┻┛┃┃┗┻┛▕▔

`

1,032 posted on 08/18/2019 8:07:17 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (I bow my knees before the Father, from whom every family on earth derives its name. - Eph 3:14-15)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1027 | View Replies]

To: Mrs. Don-o

I rest my case.


1,033 posted on 08/18/2019 9:11:28 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1031 | View Replies]

To: Mrs. Don-o

If most people are wrong about something, do you follow them anyways?

Sometimes error takes time to weed out.

That does NOT justify blatant disobedience to commands of Jesus and the tsunami of excuse making for doing so.

When confronted with the truth of Scripture, we change our behavior to fit that. We don’t change Scripture to fit our behavior.


1,034 posted on 08/18/2019 9:14:09 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1031 | View Replies]

To: metmom
Hey metsister---

I'm not going for that "mom" part-- the feminine equivaIent of father.

It's curious to reflect that every single Christian was in the dark from St. Paul (ca. 50 AD) to some American in 1840 --- on the question of whether you can call a man "father," "teacher", or "master."

It suggests that the Holy Spirit --- guaranteed to enlighten and inform the People of God --- and Christ, the Head of His Body the Church --- were dormant until the 1840's, and only woke up with a start, as soon as Irish Catholics hit the American Protestant shores. Thus arrived the enlightening news --- 1800 years after the Gospel was written --- about what Jesus really meant.

And St. Paul, Stephen the first Martyr, and even John the Beloved Disciple, didn't even know!!

I'm just now making contact lists of local Christian Churches. to send them info. about 40 Days for Life. Just now I typed up the following Baptist pastor contact:

Dr. W. Alexander Johnson, B.A., B.D., M Div Thm., L.H.D.DD - Pastor

Serious question: should these Baptists eliminate the "Dr" because it means, literally, "teacher," -- as being contrary to the Gospel?

How about the academic degrees? A modern-day equivalent of "Rabbi" and more!

I think you have, in effect, abandoned the principle of using Scripture to interpret Scripture, and de-classified St. Paul as an example to follow, and that is the most concerning thing of all.

1,035 posted on 08/18/2019 10:04:05 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("In Christ Jesus I became your father through the gospel." -Paul - in 1 Cor. 4:15)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1034 | View Replies]

To: metmom

Some will twist their minds into Gordian knots to defend the religion of Catholicism, which is not Christianity but an Org which tries to look like CHRIST ianity. Jesus spoke of their destiny ...


1,036 posted on 08/18/2019 10:12:06 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1027 | View Replies]

To: Mrs. Don-o

No, no one needs to explain/justify anything to your closed mind. This childish ‘well they were doing it so I do too’ is quite telling of the Catholic/ Roman Catholic mind.


1,037 posted on 08/18/2019 10:15:15 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1031 | View Replies]

placemarker


1,038 posted on 08/18/2019 4:12:14 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama (Self Defense is a Basic Human Right!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1037 | View Replies]

To: Roman_War_Criminal; metmom; MHGinTN
The Self-Flagellation of Roman Catholics (as if their dirty filthy deeds can help them approach The Lord) is about as fruitless of a work as “holy water”, confession to a sin-filled priest, and constant repetitive prayers that mock Jesus (Matthew 6:7) and shows paganism.

When I was a catholic, I tried hard to let my dirty, filthy deeds get me to Heaven. Eventually, I realized I didn’t measure up, so I left the Catholic Church. I figured, since I wasn’t going to Heaven, I might as well eat, drink and be merry.
In confession, I told the priest about my racy peccadilloes, till he started asking me personal questions about my sins. I think he was getting his jollies, so I just lied to him. I didn’t care if I was committing a mortal sin of sacrilege. I wasn’t going to tell that dude the truth about my sins. 👎 I think I mentioned before, that a snow ball could survive a trillion eons in Hell, before I swim the Tiber. By the way, Mary was a sinner, in need of a savior. 👍🤣

1,039 posted on 08/18/2019 5:43:45 PM PDT by Mark17 (Once saved, always saved. I am an Ephesians 2:8-9 kind of guy. It is a beautiful thing. Enjoy it)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1029 | View Replies]

To: MHGinTN; metmom; Roman_War_Criminal
Some will twist their minds into Gordian knots to defend the religion of Catholicism, which is not Christianity but an Org which tries to look like CHRIST ianity. Jesus spoke of their destiny ...

I didn’t even do this, when I was a catholic. I was actually embarrassed to be a catholic. Many things embarrassed me, but the thing that embarrassed me most, was holy water. Holy water? Are you kidding me?
You are right about one thing. It will all sorted out at the great white throne. No innocent pleas will be allowed. I believe it is ONLY about determining amount of punishment, not guilt or innocence. I don’t plan on being there, except as a witness against those in the docket. My favorite Bible Character, is the Queen or Sheba. I hope to sit next to her, as she rises in judgment over this generation, and condemns it. 😁👍

1,040 posted on 08/19/2019 2:41:10 AM PDT by Mark17 (Once saved, always saved. I am an Ephesians 2:8-9 kind of guy. It is a beautiful thing. Enjoy it)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1036 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 981-1,0001,001-1,0201,021-1,0401,041-1,047 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson