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Why Heretics Hate Mary and We Should Love Her More
One Peter Five ^ | August 5, 2019 | Timothy Flanders

Posted on 08/07/2019 3:20:08 PM PDT by ebb tide

Why Heretics Hate Mary and We Should Love Her More

Marian devotion is the cure for heresy and the healing of all heretics. We must turn to her for refuge from the heretical depravity now consuming the Church. Marian devotion is the destruction of error, the fount of humility, and a potent safeguard for orthodox faith.

Mary Is the Destroyer of All Heresies

In True Devotion to Mary, St. Louis de Montfort writes:

The most infallible and indubitable sign by which we may distinguish a heretic, a man of bad doctrine, a reprobate, from one of the predestinate, is that the heretic and the reprobate have nothing but contempt and indifference for our Blessed Lady, endeavoring by their words and examples to diminish the veneration and love of her. (30)

In the Tract for the Mass Salve Sancta Parens, the Church sings, “Rejoice, O Virgin Mary, thou alone hast destroyed all heresies.” From this, Pope St. Pius X invoked her as “Destroyer of Heresies” in Pascendi 58. And again, it was in the context of St. Dominic’s war against heresy that the Holy Rosary, Mary’s psalter, was revealed.

Thus, it is manifest that Our Lady holds a special place in the relationship of Holy Church with heresy and heretics. Why is this? It is because the root cause of heresy is not anger, lust, or sloth, but pride. A formal heretic pridefully and obstinately rejects the authority of the Church and the authority of the Fathers. His whole opinion hinges on an imaginary antiquarianism created by his pride. And it is against the sin of pride that Our Lady most perfectly shows her power. This is why St. Louis says in another place:

[Satan] fears her not only more than all Angels and men, but in some sense more than God Himself … because Satan, being proud, suffers infinitely more from being beaten and punished by a little and humble handmaid of God, and her humility humbles him more than the Divine power. (True Devotion, 52)

Demons and heretics fear her because she threatens to humble them. The latter impiously attack her under the pretense that they are safeguarding the honor due to God. In reality, they know that Mary will destroy their prideful opinions. “Humility is an abomination to the proud ” (Ecclus. 13:24).

How Mary Humbles the Proud

When the Holy Spirit exalted Mary by the mouth of St. Elizabeth, Mary said:

He hath shewed might in his arm: he hath scattered the proud in the conceit of their heart. He hath put down the mighty from their seat and hath exalted the humble. (Lk. 1:51)

Devotion to Mary brings humility to the soul. Just as St. John heard her voice and leaped for joy, and St. Elizabeth immediately humbled herself, saying “Who am I that the mother of my Lord should come to me?” (Lk. 1:43), we too know this humility when we exalt Mary.

Mary humbles us because God wills that Jesus Christ be manifested to the world through her. According to nature, any man is her equal. According to grace and merit, she is “more honorable than the cherubim, and beyond compare more glorious than the Seraphim” [1]. In Mary, our humility is truly tested because she is a human, not God.

Humility toward God is presumed by all, and heretics falsely think themselves humble because they say they submit to God. But their pride is revealed when they refuse to submit to man — both legitimate authority and the sayings of the wise. “The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that is wise hearkeneth unto counsels” (Prov. 12:15).

A humble man may even debase himself before wicked men, as our Lord did.  But heretics have no humility toward men. In reality, heretics are attempting to impose their private opinion on all authorities. They have no humility toward any human but are consumed in their own selves. As the history of Protestantism has shown, it is easy to feign humility toward God while exalting yourself over every man. This is the way of all the heretics.

One who is humble toward Mary will be humble toward authority. Mary especially checks the pride of heretics by proclaiming that they cannot have their own private, “personal Jesus,” since our Lord has forever bound Himself to His mother by His incarnation. In the same way that the Incarnation is the foundation of our redemption — without which there can be no Passion or Resurrection — the human person of Jesus Christ cannot exist without the person of Mary [2]. As I have written in another place, true union with Christ will result in love of Mary as our mother, who was also the first natural cause of His appearance to the world.

Marian Devotion is a test for orthodoxy

Since Marian Devotion is the fount of humility, it becomes a powerful test for orthodoxy. For example, when St. John Vianney’s lack of intelligence presented a barrier to his ordination, he was evaluated like this:

The vicar-general asked the superior of the seminary: ‘Is young Vianney pious? Is he devoted to the Blessed Virgin?’ The authorities were able to assure him fully upon these points. ‘Then,’ said the vicar-general, ‘I will receive him. Divine grace will do the rest.’ [3]

And so the Church ordained the future patron of parish priests. Sometimes it is as simple as asking if a man has Marian devotion. If a man is truly devoted to our Lady, he can be no heretic. St. Louis again:

“If you follow her,” says St. Bernard, “you cannot wander from the road.” Fear not, therefore, that a true child of Mary can be deceived by the evil one, or fall into any formal heresy. There where the guidance of Mary is, neither the evil spirit with his illusions, nor the heretics with their subtleties, can ever come — Ipsa tenente, non corruis. (True Devotion, 209) [4]

Thus, it is unsurprising that when we read through Building a Bridge by James Martin, S.J., a book purported to be about mercy and compassion, not a single page mentions the Mother of mercy and compassion. In fact, on page 130, he even erroneously asserts that at the Resurrection, Mary Magdalene was the first Christian, implicitly denying our Lady and the entire tradition of her Saturday memorial in which her sole faithfulness is commemorated. The examples of his warped or deficient Marian piety are only too easy to find [5].

But it is even more disturbing when we read how the Rhine group at Vatican II successfully suppressed the document on the Mother of God, relegating it, by a narrow vote, to the final section in Lumen Gentium (against the protests from Eastern Catholic bishops and others) [6]. When their efforts to suppress Marian devotion were opposed by Paul VI (to his credit), the time became known to them as “Black Week” [7]. Perhaps more alarming, Ratzinger himself admits that his Marian piety was weak in Last Testament and seems to imply the false dichotomy that Marian piety is not Christocentric [8]. Without succumbing to the sin of rash judgment, it is nevertheless suggestive that this lack of Marian piety correlates with an apparent hubris on the part of many Vatican II “reformers.”

Whatever the true state of these and other men with an apparent reluctance to love and honor their own mother, we can be certain that our Blessed Lady is a sure refuge from heresy. As Fr. Ripperger has stated, without a strong intellectual formation, everyone becomes a Modernist in our corrupt society. That is why we must cling to Our Lady for refuge from heretics and heresy in our time.

True devotion to Mary keeps us safe from the excesses of pride. Even more in our day, let us consider: she stood firm, though she witnessed the Passion and death of our Lord. We also must stand firm, even as we are witnessing the passion and death of the Church. Moreover, it seems clear from her frequent apparitions since the 19th century that Our Lord has purposed His mother for a special role in resolving this crisis. Let us pray our daily rosary and make the First Saturdays. Let us abide with Our Lady in the Passion of the Church and never lose hope for the Glorious Resurrection.


[1] Eastern Catholic Marian antiphon

[2] So too the mediation of the Sacraments — through another human — we receive our Lord.

[3] The Life of Saint John Vianney, The Curé of Ars, ch. 1

[4] It should be noted that Marian devotion is not an infallible test for orthodoxy, but merely a general rule against which there can be significant exceptions. Some Protestants, although material heretics, are in fact humble, and some Catholics are orthodox with little or no Marian piety. However, no man can be truly devoted to Our Lady and be a heretic. Moreover, formal heresy is defined as an error in the intellect and an obstinate will. It is particularly the latter from which Mary keeps us safe.

[5] I refuse to expose the reader to any further abuse of Our Lady from James Martin. Suffice it to say I have searched in vain for a substantial treatment or promotion of Marian devotion from Martin, and he admits in My Life with the Saints, p. 345ff., that his Marian devotion, which was shallow in his youth, was formed by the Jesuits as an imitation model, not the traditional, primarily mediatrix role. If his Marian devotion does go beyond sentimentality, let him publicly and explicitly disavow every heresy of which he is accused.

[6] See Rev. Ralph Wiltgen, The Rhine Flows into the Tiber (Augustine, 1979), 90ff.

[7] See Ibid., 234ff. The Rhine group was opposing Paul VI’s honoring of our Lady as “Mother of the Church” as well as his actions regarding collegiality, religious liberty, and ecumenism.

[8] See Benedict XVI, Last Testament, trans. Jacob Phillips (Bloomsbury, 2016), 70ff. As I have read more into Ratzinger, despite his obvious strengths, more of his theology has concerned me. This point was another red flag


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To: af_vet_1981

I didn’t expect your Catholic Org mind to get the points of the lesson, but someone has taught you a few of them.


1,001 posted on 08/17/2019 1:27:05 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: metmom
Jesus does not specify the word "title" or "official form of address" at all. You introduced that distinction into the discussion.

The actual phrase was, "Call no man on earth father" --- or master or teacher, in the next two phrases of the quote. Paul calls men on earth "fathers," "teachers," and "masters" quite freely.

And he calls himself father in the spiritual sense (1 Cor 4:15: "For I became your father in Jesus Christ through the Gospel") which is really even more germane.

Historically, American Protestant opposition to this is somehow both modern and quaint. According to studies done by Protestant historian David Holmes (LINK), American Protestants of all sorts called their clergy "Father" for over 200 years--- a practice that waned only when large numbers of Irish came into the U.S. after the Great Hunger of the late 1840's.

According to Holmes, (as cited above),

"Father" and "Mother" do not violate biblical nomenclature, and they have the sanction of Protestant tradition. Neither sacerdotal nor conventual, they have been employed by fervent Baptists as well as by biblicist Disciples of Christ. Not terms of self-exaltation, they were used voluntarily by congregations and colleagues to express affection and respect. More than "Mr.," "Mrs ," "Ms.," "Dame" or "Dr.," "Father" and "Mother" portray the strong familial nature of Christ’s church."

Historically, it was an anti-Irish polemical spirit that spurred American Protestants to refuse the term "Father," which before they had used.

Interestingly, "Father" was NOT used for secular (diocesan) Catholic priests --- outside of Ireland --- before this time, either. Secular priests were called "Mister," "Monsieur," "Don" or other vernacular equivalent. It was a distinctively Irish custom to say "Father," which did not catch on in the rest of the Church until Cardinal Henry Manning started promoting it in England, also in the 1840's.

Knowing your interest in history, I thought you would find this intriguing.

The Faiths of the Founding Fathers, by David Holmes


1,002 posted on 08/17/2019 1:58:00 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (I bow my knees before the Father, from whom every family on earth derives its name. - Eph 3:14-15)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Ah yes, the typical misdirection! The context is ignored to promote the Catholic Org (rhymes with Borg) religion’s explanation and support the antithesis of what JESUS was teaching.


1,003 posted on 08/17/2019 2:07:24 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: metmom

I just wanted to underline that what I wrote about the American historic context for the word “father” was not something I found in Catholic apologetics. It was from the research of an American Protestant historian.


1,004 posted on 08/17/2019 2:22:43 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (I bow my knees before the Father, from whom every family on earth derives its name. - Eph 3:14-15)
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To: metmom

This thing STILL going??


1,005 posted on 08/17/2019 2:51:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
The actual phrase was, "Call no man on earth father"

Well; I guess it's ok for Catholics to ignore THIS as well.


Paul calls men on earth "fathers," "teachers," and "masters" quite freely.

I'll await your list of verses.

1,007 posted on 08/17/2019 2:54:40 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
I've given this list of verses several times. Since I'm now working on a hymn collection for my parish, I haven't time to do it yet again.

So I advise you to do a User search on "Mrs Don-o" and from there do a word search for "father" --- or use the BibleGateway online concordance to make a nice big list from St. Paul's epistles. You can also include Acts and the Epistles of John to get even more.

It's easy. You'll find it rewarding.

1,008 posted on 08/17/2019 3:07:15 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (The Bible tells me so.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
It's easy.

Then I'll expect it sometime tomorrow.


Save it in a file next time.

1,009 posted on 08/17/2019 3:09:12 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Call no man father Placemarker


1,010 posted on 08/17/2019 4:19:46 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Elsie
I'll await your list of verses.

We might be 900 years into the millennial kingdom, before you get your list. 😁👎

1,011 posted on 08/17/2019 4:57:02 PM PDT by Mark17 (Once saved, always saved. I am an Ephesians 2:8-9 kind of guy. It is a beautiful thing. Enjoy it)
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To: Mark17

placemarker


1,012 posted on 08/17/2019 5:16:58 PM PDT by 2nd amendment mama (Self Defense is a Basic Human Right!)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Once upon a time a Pedophile priest raped altar boys repeatedly.

He was found out and the hierarchy moved him to another parish to continue the pattern, and hushed the whole thing up and told the victim and family they must never talk about it again.

He was allowed to continue in his priestly duties of administering sacraments, performing mass, consecrating the eucharist and anyone who questions is was told that *Once a priest, always a priest*.

So tell me, is THIS the One True church, body of Christ which is supposed to be the only way thorough which salvation MAY BE attained, but not guaranteed?

1,013 posted on 08/17/2019 5:20:05 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Mark17; northislander; af_vet_1981; aMorePerfectUnion; MHGinTN; Luircin; Roman_War_Criminal

Nobody CLAIMS to hate Mary, however, many are ACCUSED of hating her.

And we know the source of accusations.


1,014 posted on 08/17/2019 5:22:14 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Sure He does.

It’s in the context of the discussion of spiritual leadership within religious framework.

He NEVER says that no child should not call his male parent *father*.


1,015 posted on 08/17/2019 5:25:23 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom

AMEN!

Exactamundo.

And for the dimension of spiritual leadership within a religious framework...

Therefore, the promise comes by faith, so that it may be by grace and may be guaranteed to all Abraham’s offspring—not only to those who are of the law but also to those who have the faith of Abraham. He is the father of us all.(Romans 4:16)

I appeal to you for my child Onesimus, whose father I became while I was in chains. (Philemon 1:10)

"In Christ Jesus I became your father through the gospel." -Paul - (1 Cor. 4:15)

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1,016 posted on 08/17/2019 5:53:51 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (I bow my knees before the Father, from whom every family on earth derives its name. - Eph 3:14-15)
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To: metmom
He NEVER says that no child should not call his male parent *father*.

Some just don’t get it, do they? Will they ever get it? If people can’t understand this simple concept, how on earth do we expect them to understand the plan of salvation? Praise God for assurance of salvation. 😁🤣👍 I have assurance of salvation. Do you think I care if someone doesn’t like it? Not even a little bit. 😀

1,017 posted on 08/17/2019 6:43:10 PM PDT by Mark17 (Once saved, always saved. I am an Ephesians 2:8-9 kind of guy. It is a beautiful thing. Enjoy it)
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To: metmom; aMorePerfectUnion; ealgeone
Nobody CLAIMS to hate Mary, however, many are ACCUSED of hating her.

And we know the source of accusations.

Hmmm, let me guess. Are the muzzards accusing us of hating Mary????? Am I close? Not even close??? Am I in the ballpark?😁😆😀🙃🤣

BTW, I sent you a pic of my son in his Air Force flight suit. 👍 He was in ground school all week. Monday, he gets into the left seat for the first time. 👍 I think I created a monster, by telling him, since he was a toddler, that he should fly. 👊 Right now, it looks like flying, is ALL he wants to do. 👍☝️

1,018 posted on 08/17/2019 6:57:58 PM PDT by Mark17 (Once saved, always saved. I am an Ephesians 2:8-9 kind of guy. It is a beautiful thing. Enjoy it)
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To: Mark17
Monday, he gets into the left seat for the first time. 👍 I think I created a monster, by telling him, since he was a toddler, that he should fly. 👊 Right now, it looks like flying, is ALL he wants to do. 👍☝️

Awesome!

1,019 posted on 08/17/2019 7:03:39 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Mrs. Don-o; metmom
Yet, in all that you posted Paul never refers to himself as Father Paul.

That's the difference you're missing.

1,020 posted on 08/17/2019 7:04:37 PM PDT by ealgeone
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