[metmom]

Not ONE Catholic believes that Faith and works gives us salvation. That is utterly wrong and if anyone within or outside the Church has such opinions they should be told it is anathema.

You've interviewed all 1.2 billion of them?

Council of Trent, eh?

Check your church laws that were established at Trent.

http://www.thecounciloftrent.com/ch6.htm

Canon 9. If anyone says that the sinner is justified by faith alone, meaning that nothing else is required to cooperate in order to obtain the grace of justification, and that it is not in any way necessary that he be prepared and disposed by the action of his own will, let him be anathema. A couple more laws that you might want to consider:

Canon 19.If anyone says that nothing besides faith is commanded in the Gospel, that other things are indifferent, neither commanded nor forbidden, but free; or that the ten commandments in no way pertain to Christians, let him be anathema.

Canon 24. If anyone says that the justice received is not preserved and also not increased before God through good works, but that those works are merely the fruits and signs of justification obtained, but not the cause of its increase, let him be anathema.

Canon 27. If anyone says that there is no mortal sin except that of unbelief, or that grace once received is not lost through any other sin however grievous and enormous except by that of unbelief, let him be anathema.

If what you claim is true, there would not be the persistent emphasis on works in Catholicism and Catholics would quit quoting James 2.

[Cronos]

About as much as you may have interviewed the 1.5 billion with regards to your blanket statements.

However the fact remains that you have posted one statement that it is not sole fide for justification. This is quite different from sole fide for salvation. Salvation comes from Christ alone and you are justified from this by the means that Christ tells us

[Elsie]

You've interviewed all 1.2 billion of them?

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Let's try some easy math:

 

 

 

There are approximately 1.2 billion Catholics world wide;

 

If merely 1% of them  'ask' Mary for help just once each day;

 

that means that 12 million separate prayers are headed Mary's direction every day.

 

Given that there are 86,400 seconds per day... (24 hours times 60 minutes times 60 seconds)

 

...that means that Mary has to handle approximately 139 'requests' per second!

 

Purty good fer someone NOT 'divine'!

[Elsie]

Some of our FR Catholics are REALLY poorly catechized.