How religious groups voted in the midterm elections

Pew Research Center ^ | 11-07-18 | Elizabeth Podrebarac Sciupac and Gregory A. Smith

[daniel1212]

The interesting thing I notice is Catholics were left of the nation as a whole up until 2008. Since 2008 they have been to the right. That is not what I see:

2012 Presidential voting D 49% R 48%

2018 midterm elections. D 50% R 49%

[daniel1212]

That is true, all my family were democrats, they like many other Catholic ethnic groups, Italians (like me), Polish (like my wife), Irish, Bavarian-Germans, or French, voted for Kennedy 75%. However, those same people were the mainstay of the Reagan Democrats. Nixon in 72 was the first Republican to get over 50% of the Catholic vote, Carter got them back in 76 but Reagan got 61% in 1984 (the most ever). I think about 59% of Catholics are Non-Hispanic White (consists of family name from among 1 of the 5 ethnic groups I mentioned above). In 1990, the statistics were probably about 70-30 Non-Hispanic white to other ethnic groups, mostly from Central and South America. Republicans have pretty much Nixon in 72 gotten most of the Non-Hispanic white Catholic vote. But even if those groups account for 70% of the Catholic vote, getting 60% of that vote only equats to 42% of the total Catholic vote. Even getting 70% doesn’t get you to 60% (49%). So Allen’s basic hypothesis is correct.

• 47% of white Catholics identified with or leaned toward the Democratic Party, while 46% supported the GOP in the mid-September [2012] poll [up from 41% in 2008], while 72% of white evangelicals identified with the GOP. http://www.pewforum.org/Race/Latinos-Religion-and-Campaign-2012.aspx#president

  Search white Catholics. for more.

[ealgeone]

Roman Catholics are not helping the Republic.

[rhinohunter]

Barky won the popular by 4 in 2012. Barky won the Catholic vote by 1 (at least according to this poll data). Therefore the Catholic vote moved right after 2008. In 2008 the Catholic vote and national vote were BOTH at about barky by 6.

[CTrent1564]

The point of the article was not to compare Catholics to white evangelicals. The point was an inter-Catholic comparison. Is that so hard for you to understand. I think everyone knows that white evangelicals, who are predominately in the South, vote overwhelmingly Republican. Blacks and Jewish Voters on the other hand vote overwhelmingly Democrat. Catholics are perhaps the last swing independent voters in the Country. Trump won Catholic votes 52-45. Nixon won them in 72, Reagan by a landslide in 84. Obama slightly won them in 2008 and 2012.

[Luircin]

Men look at appearances.

God looks at the heart.

[upsdriver]

When millions of tainted votes are cast, how in the hell do we know who voted from which groups? Why should we care? Our elections have become a farce.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

(Roman) men look on the outward appearance.

God looks at the heart.

(Keeping it specific to this thread)

[daniel1212]

The point of the article was not to compare Catholics to white evangelicals. The point was an inter-Catholic comparison. Is that so hard for you to understand. I think everyone knows that white evangelicals, who are predominately in the South, vote overwhelmingly Republican. Blacks and Jewish Voters on the other hand vote overwhelmingly Democrat. Catholics are perhaps the last swing independent voters in the Country.

Your post I was responding to was about white Catholics, which was thus what my post focused on . The mention of white evangelicals was part of the data that was included in that citation, but which i am not sure i even remembered seeing.

Trump won Catholic votes 52-45. Nixon won them in 72, Reagan by a landslide in 84. Obama slightly won them in 2008 and 2012.

The problem is that they voted Democrats in 13 times the last 17 elections, but yes, there is no contention that Catholics are perhaps the last swing independent voters in the Country.

[ealgeone]

The problem is that they voted Democrats in 13 times the last 17 elections, but yes, there is no contention that Catholics are perhaps the last swing independent voters in the Country.

That's the amazing statistic that Roman Catholics try to run from or shift the blame to Hispanic Roman Catholics.

[CTrent1564]

Daniel:

The Republican party had lots of nativist in it in the North and West, in the South the nativist were Democrats. In other words, both parties had liberals, moderates and conservatives in some areas of fiscal, social and foreign policy. No party was totally dominated by Conservative or Liberal. Most Catholics lived in the mid-Atlantic, Northeast and Midwest prior to 1970, the democrats were more hospitable to them.

My article that I commented on was only dealing with Catholic vote. I did not compare Catholic to mainline protestant or evangelicals. I cited the John Allen article from Crux to only explain the Catholic vote and its voting patterns. Abortion and euthanasia was not an issue till 1973 (euthanasia a consequence of abortion and Roe in 1973). That was the first defining issue that really made the Catholic vote competitive. A large chunk of Catholic votes moved from Democrat in 1960, Kennedy 75-78% to Reagan 20 years later 61% of the vote, largely over social issues.

[Elsie]

REAL Catholics might be quite similar to TRUE Scotsmen.

[Elsie]

Again Evangelicals failed to turn out.

HUH?

[Elsie]

I know...I’m disappointed in the Evangelical turnout.

HUH; again.

I see PERCENTAGES but where are the raw numbers??

[Elsie]

Like the ones you will find on FR.

Oh?

The ones that LIKE the way their elected leader is directing the church?

Or them other guys??

[ealgeone]

Good question. I don’t know.

[Elsie]

[Elsie]

I agree, there are plenty that were baptized Catholic, go to the Church on Easter and Christmas and vote Dem.

At least St. Joseph the Worker is reaching out to them!

[Elsie]

Roman Catholics are not helping the Republic.

It appears that the Founding Fathers knew this way back then; too.

[Luircin]

That kind of thing makes me crazy.

A couple shows up to have their child baptized. (I’m not going to get into arguments about baptism; replace it with Christmas or Easter if you like.) They make an oath before God and man that they’ll raise this child in the Christian faith.

And then I never see them darkening the door of the church again.

Because the husband feels ‘uncomfortable,’ or so the claim goes.

Pfft.