Posted on 10/19/2018 8:33:25 PM PDT by Patriot777
If the title looks plain idiotic, it's not. On October 31, many who identify as being believers in Christ Jesus will actually do just that. Their church may have a spooky "trunk or treat" or festival, or a costume contest and they'll take their kids to it. This year the costumes will be even more horrific than the last, but it's all in fun. No. If you or your church participate in the celebration of Satan's day, you are in league with the Evil One and are not truly a Child of the Living God--Jesus. Get yourself and your family out of that church, repent and receive Jesus as your Savior and Lord or recommit your lives to the Lord, and find a church that does follow Christ and teaches the whole Bible. If there is any gathering at any church on the 31st, it should be to pray for the protection and safety of our law enforcement, first responders, our fellow believers, missionaries, our loved ones and thank our Savior that He indeed is coming quickly. My beloved FRiends, I love you in Christ Jesus.
You had a bad day, didn’t you?
You said it! Ditto
Both of you are very fanatical about defending halloween.
If doing this were equivalent to a religious belief, would you be able to understand this about yourself?
If you understood it, would you have the confidence to admit it?
Defending halloween is part of a religious belief system.
If it werent part of a religious belief system, people wouldnt get so emotional about it.
If love of halloween (or fear of standing up to the social pressure to celebrate it) is part of a religious belief system, first have the brains to understand the fact, and then just own it. Dont pretend its not a religion.
How weak is it, that it cant be claimed openly?
If your belief system is so weak, walk away from it.
Finally, worshipping the dead is not of God. If its not of God, then what can you say of it?
Halloween has always been about things we did not believe, but I noticed how it has become so serious in these times.
Maybe this is just because of what I have come to believe?
I believe that I see evil spirits in people every day, watch the news, reading on freerepublic and yeah, they are there.
I use to think that that would be paranoia or some other kind of condition.
Today, I believe it is simply situational awareness.
I think these are significant times myself.
I just expect these things in this world.
Not celebrating it, its easy enough for me anyway.
Posting a few snarky remarks on an anonymous message board makes me a fanatic? Really?
The problem you have is that once you go down that road, you discover you've undermined the observance of other common and fun holidays. This will include, but not be limited to, Christmas and Easter.
Tread carefully.
Rev 8:2-3 Then I saw the seven angels who stand before God, and seven trumpets were given to them. And another angel came and stood at the altar with a golden censer, and he was given much incense to offer with the prayers of all the saints ...
WE sinners also know from Jude and Daniel, that demons and devils wrestle with the angels for the souls of the deceased from the moment of earthly death:
Jude 9:
Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee. (that is, St. Michael prayed for intercession )
Daniel 10:13:
The prince of the kingdom of Persia [a demon] withstood me twenty-one days, but Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me, because I was detained...
Catholic faith or no, the Universal Truth is that The Almighty's time is not linear.
Catholic prayers for those in Purgatory are no less significant than Protestant prayers for someone's health or marriage or children, or justice for a deceased loved one. A prayer before or after the fact really doesn't matter; either are just as capable of being answered because The Almighty hears all prayer submitted in the name of Jesus.
Romans 8:38-9 38 For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, 39 nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.
It is true that time has little meaning to God.
But for now there will be wars and rumors of wars. There will be the Tribulation.
It’s just that our nation is so blessed that it feels like victory.
This, my FRiend, is an oasis in history.
God bless President Trump
—and—
God bless all of the hard-working truth warrirors here!
FRegards ....
“...arent bothered about helping Satan...”
Helping?
Satan wants people to either disbelieve him or fear him.
Halloween is the opposite of both.
I guess most Christian movies are evil too, right? They show men and women in evil looking costumes.
FRiend, you are wasting a lot of energy hating an American tradition.
God never cursed this land for Halloween. Nor did Halloween drive us away from God. Quite the opposite. The rest of Christendom has drifted from God much faster than we did.
And what about Christmas? Is that evil too? And the Easter Bunny?
Pardon me but i attacked no one. Only on the left does disagreement equal attack.
Nice language by the way for someone trying to dress down other Christians. You may wish to work on the log in your own eye.
If doing this were equivalent to a religious belief, would you be able to understand this about yourself?
If you understood it, would you have the confidence to admit it?
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Work on writing comprehensible sentences and get back to me.
In the meantime, I can tell you if you went way back in my comments, you’d probably find comments echoing your own thoughts on Halloween. I studied, researched, and experienced, and came to the conclusion that I was acting like a Pharisee. Have you ever had the confidence to look at the argument from the other side? Have you ever had the will, wisdom, and confidence to challenge your own religious viewpoints?
“So many professing Christians who just want to be assured of a spot in Heaven,”
If that’s why you call yourself a Christian then you’re not much of one.
Nobody is worshipping the dead. It’s a harmless holiday where children mooch candy and play make-believe. God’s Kingdom is in no danger from a 5-year-old pirate.
Put down the Cotton Mather and let people have some fun.
You are brave. I’ll give you that.
We are both ‘fools for God’.
Now then...
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Just so happens that EVERY FREAKING ELECTION this rises up at the absolute worst time — patriots rarely make the time for proper deliberation regarding Halloween.
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However, since I can write off-line and my internet time is limited each month, now I have the time to address it properly.
Some diatribes you’ve been writing. Where is the scripture to back it up?
Or are there modern prophesies?
“Dont pretend its not a religion.”
Are you certain that a jack-o-lantern is devil worship?
I hope not. You would be wrong.
Are you certain that a devil costume is devil worship?
You probably do, right?
What are people thinking handing candy to a kid in a devil costume?
“Cute kid. I’m glad we are enjoying this neighborly bond.”
No, can’t be that.
No — they are thinking to themselves, “Oh Lord of Darkness, I am thy servant!”
Sure. That’s just the kind of people we are.
And the kid knows it too. So the kid will grow up and become a satanist.
Hardly.
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The kids in the boring neighborhoods are the ones you better keep an eye on. The kids who look at a neighbor’s house and can only assume the worst. There is no widely practiced national tradition during Christmas or Easter to visit your neighbor.
Even Thanksgiving is ‘family time’. A big travel day in fact — away from neighbors.
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Halloween is the most neighborly tradition we have. And it is under seige by religious ‘scholars’.
And the great thing about the tradition is that even poor people can buy candy.
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We are so isolated from each other, it’s sick. And the more boring a child’s life is the more tempted that child will be to join up with real witches, especially a lot of preachers’ kids who are stuck in the public school ‘cyst-em’.
[I hate that word, ‘cyst-em’.]
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I eat eggs. Hm ... might be because I subconsciously worship of the Easter Bunny.
FRiend, you think you have the answers. But you are masking insults with what?
“If your belief ‘cyst-em’ is so weak, walk away from it.”
You have NO idea how strong my beliefs are. Mainly because I don’t rely on a ‘cyst-em’. I don’t rely on a theology book.
Why?
Jesus said that God’s way is so simple that a child can understand it. But it vexes the learned. [Paraphrase.]
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Evil in the Churches
I have traced back my pathway of sin. Guess where it was rooted?
My spiritual problems are mainly due to leftist policies that suppressed the economy and the natural desire for wealth. And without wealth a man is most likely a fool to get married in this nation.
So poor and unwed. In my 50s now. A real ‘witch’s brew’ for sin, ‘aint it?
I believed that love of money is the root of all evil. I heard a televangelist say that when I was young. I found it in the Holy Book.
I got so mixed up that I enjoyed the Krokus song, “Eat the Rich.”
It seemed ‘crusade-like’ even though I myself had no intention of stealing or killing. But it was something to look forward to witnessing one day. Robin Hood fascinated me too. So you could imagine how that went.
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My problems and ALL of our nation’s problems are rooted in GREEDY ministers who wanted to shame people into larger donations:
[Such as, ‘Rich man and the eye of the needle’.]
And now innocent ministers are brainwashed into believing the same misinterpretations. AND they are educated in a cesspool known as ‘higher’ learning rather than being mentored properly.
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And all of that greed made it easy for college professors to belittle religion. Greed was the undoing of the Catholic orthodoxy as well. [I never said the love of money is always good — especially the LUST of money.]
Our nation would be even more blessed if we sought after leaders of faith rather than ministers educated in a scholarly way.
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Too much book learning and not enough belief in the supernatural — that is rebellion against Jesus Himself, and rebellion is the sin of witchcraft!
Jesus insulted scribes. He felt contempt for them as much as the Pharisees.
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The Churches’ Secret Problem with Halloween
Some religions like to ‘stand out’ as ‘morally superior’ to the point that their theology denounces American traditions. They need to justify their own uniqueness so that donations flow into their baskets rather than the church next door.
Halloween is the closest thing kids come to understanding spiritual evil.
It’s the annual wake-up call. Some people will always take it too far. But at least it’s in a box, far better contained. And an obedient child with decent parents will never do anything wrong. [If there were such a child.]
But if we ignore evil to the point that no one ever dares put on a devil costume, then we are completely blinded as a nation.
Kids are curious about the supernatural. What do churches offer?
Jesus raised the dead. And so did Peter.
That is the foundation of our growing faith — the supernatural. And since our religious leaders have strayed so far from that foundation they fear what they cannot compete with.
“great concern for the fact that Halloween IS Satanic”
Herein lies the problem. Halloween is not Satanic. It’s just a holiday. Satan has much better tools.
Gag on a gnat and swallow a camel.
It’s precisely that sort of super-heated rhetoric people are reacting against. If you want to ask, “are you promoting Godliness or wickedness on Halloween,” people may look at their daughter dressed as Cinderella differently than their daughter dressed as a Playboy bunny or as a “sexy devil” and come up with different answers. Or they may realize, “hmm. Gunther’s leaving the house with 12 dozen eggs and a 24-pack of toilet paper. Maybe destructive pranks aren’t Christian.”
But you and Patriot777 don’t. No, Patriot777 screeds about worshiping Satan, which is absurd, and makes Christians look like a bunch of lunatics. And then when people push back, along YOU come in and in YOUR words, you start referencing outrageous profanities. And that reinforces the dichotomy that if you don’t want to revel in evil, you must be a joyless scold. And THAT’S what people react against, because THAT’S why so many people around them choose to revel in evil.
You realize that Christmas was originally a pagan celebration before Constantine, wisely, turned it into a celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ? How's that worked out? Very well, I say.
Christians engaging in trunk or treat and reaching out with the gospel are doing the same thing -- using a secular and/or pagan celebration to reach kids with the gospel. Only someone ultra legalistic would have a problem with that.
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