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Why Every Christian, Not Just Catholics, Should Be Very Worried About The Catholic Sex Scandal
The Federalist ^ | 09/17/2018 | By Willis L. Krumholz and Robert Delahunty

Posted on 09/17/2018 11:01:08 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The rapidly unfolding crisis in the Roman Catholic Church is not a matter of concern to Catholics alone. Its true dimensions have yet to be measured, but we think it will prove to be a crisis on the scale of the Protestant Reformation, which began just over 500 years ago — an earthquake of 9.5 on the Richter scale. If so, resolution of the crisis will take decades to work through.

Resolution and absolution will require serious effort, and most likely require deep, structural reforms. Even if we are mistaken, the Catholic crisis is of such a magnitude that Christians of all denominations must take a serious interest in it.

We are both evangelical Christians with strong ties to the Catholic Church and deep respect for it. One of us was raised as a Catholic, was educated at Catholic primary and secondary schools, and has taught for the past 14 years at a Catholic law school; the other is a graduate of the law school and the business school of that Catholic university, and has many Catholic family members.

We also care deeply about our many Catholic friends, and the health of the Roman Catholic Church, which is an enormous force for good in this world. We also believe that what happens with the Catholic Church will affect Christianity worldwide. In other words, we have a stake in the matter.

Non-Catholics Should Pay Attention

Some Catholics may regard the crisis in their church as a purely internal matter, and consider outside commentary unwelcome and intrusive, even if it is well-meant. Likewise, many non-Catholic Christians may assume the Catholic crisis does not affect them at all, and perhaps even find in that crisis confirmation for their darkest views of Catholicism.

We do not accept that position. Non-Catholic Christians should take an active part in the conversation about the Catholic crisis. While they must be unfailingly tactful and sympathetic, they should also be as critical as is necessary given what is at stake. The well-known writer Rod Dreher, formerly a Catholic and now Eastern Orthodox, has posted frequently on the Catholic crisis, and is a magnificent model for other non-Catholic Christians to follow.

Among many reasons for non-Catholic interventions, three stand out in our minds.

1. The Victims

First, every Christian has a compelling obligation to protect the weak and vulnerable to the greatest extent possible. The victims of clerical sex abuse in the Catholic Church (as elsewhere) have often been children. While many victims have been compensated — if “compensation” for such injuries is really possible — and the Catholic Church in many places has instituted practices to guard against future abuse, it remains necessary to speak on behalf of those who have been victimized and those who may still be at risk.

All Christians, especially Catholics, should be angry. It is unbearable to think of what has been done “to the least of these” by those claiming to speak in the name of Christ. Many of the children targeted and abused came from broken and dysfunctional homes. Many are fatherless.

The church is charged with mending the emptiness that a broken family brings, not violently shattering a child’s world. God is the father to the fatherless. What would Christ, who overturned tables at the temple and chased out the moneychangers with a whip, do to those who sexually molest his children?

Far too many in the church hierarchy, including the pope, are not sufficiently angry. For example, this coming January, Cardinal Barbarin, the archbishop of Lyons in France, will be standing trial for allegedly covering up the crimes of a local priest who, in the 1980s, sexually abused Boy Scouts. A local priest has gathered more than 100,000 signatures to petition the pope to remove this cardinal.

Thus far, however, Pope Francis seems not to have responded to that petition. However, in 2016, despite knowing of the allegations against the cardinal, and apparently without meeting or hearing the victims of the priest’s abuse, Pope Francis praised Barbarin as “brave.” He also has not ordered a canonical proceeding against him.

We are not prejudging Barbarin’s guilt or innocence: that depends on the outcome of his case in January. But we think it is fair to say that Pope Francis’ handling of the affair indicates that he is — at best — over-eager to defend his hierarchy and insufficiently attentive to those who have suffered at their hands.

The pope is not the only member of the Catholic hierarchy who seems simply unable to register the severity of the injuries they cause to their victims, and others at risk from them. Recently, on a visit to a seminary, Chicago Cardinal Blase Cupich, a Francis appointee, answered one anguished young candidate for the priesthood by saying, “While the church’s ‘agenda’ certainly involves protecting kids from harm, ‘we have a bigger agenda than to be distracted by all of this.’” His audience was reportedly dumbfounded: Surely the problem of sexual abuse of seminaries and children is more than a “distraction?”

In a similar vein, Cardinal Oscar Maradiaga of Honduras has excoriated a group of 50 Honduran seminarians for petitioning the Vatican to correct homosexual abuses going on in their seminary. We apparently are to believe that 50 seminaries are spreading malicious lies, while Madariaga, whose top aide resigned last July in the wake of charges of sexual and financial misconduct, is only speaking the truth.

Moreover, the victims of clerical abuse and the hierarchical concealment of them are not limited to those who have personally suffered sexual affronts. The financial costs to the Catholic Church of litigating and settling abuse cases have been staggering, and are now likely to escalate much higher. In 2015, the National Catholic Reporter found that the church had incurred $4 billion since 1950 in costs related to clerical sex abuse.

Research has also found that the church lost about $2.3 billion annually over the last 30 years due to scandal-related consequences, in the form of lost membership, and diverted giving. Specifically, there is a notable drop in giving in areas rocked by abuse. This makes sense. Why should good people give to pay for bad things?

Abuse litigation in the Los Angeles Archdiocese alone cost $740 million. Yet the former archbishop of Los Angeles, Cardinal Roger Mahony, under whose tenure (1985-2011) there were 500 alleged victims, is still considered a “priest in good standing” and has not been demoted by the pope.

These amounts will likely rise significantly in the wake of the recent report by a Pennsylvania grand jury detailing abuse in most (but not all) of that state’s Catholic dioceses, the overwhelming likelihood that similar investigations will occur in other states, and the risk that statutes of limitations will be amended to expose the Catholic Church to greater liability.

That means the American Catholic Church has had, and will have, far fewer resources to help the poor, to care for the sick, to shelter the homeless, and to educate children. These are victims too.

2. Concern for Fellow Christians

Second, even if you happen not to be a Catholic, surely you have Catholic family members, spouses, close friends, or colleagues who are Catholics. Almost half of the U.S. population has a “strong” connection to the Catholic Church. We have often found the Catholics closest to us to be dismayed by the situation in their church — angry, stunned, confused, or even in denial. Fellow Christians should share their agony.

The other Christian churches should want a healthy, robust Catholic Church, not the gravely weakened one of the present. American Catholicism was losing members alarmingly even before the current phase of the Catholic crisis. It is said that the second largest American denomination, after the Catholic Church, is ex-Catholics.

Not all of that decline is due to the clerical scandals; the general re-paganization of American society has surely played its part. But it seems likely that many former Catholics have abandoned their church (or at least are boycotting it) because of the scandals. The abuse scandals may also be playing a role in this re-paganization — after all, abuse of young boys was a pagan practice that early Christianity condemned and sought to stamp out.

In light of all this, non-Catholic Christians may be increasingly tempted to view Catholicism as a kind of pariah church within global Christianity. But that would not only be uncharitable; it would be unwise. To a great extent, the reputation of the Christian faith itself is besmirched when a large Christian denomination is engulfed in continuing scandals.

3. The Risk to Religious Liberty

When a large corporate body proves unable to govern itself, the chances are high that the government will step in. We saw this when financial institutions considered “too big to fail” were either shuttered by the government or subjected to deeply intrusive government regulation. The Catholic Church is heading towards the same predicament. Unless it can prove, very rapidly, that it is capable of managing its own affairs, it will come under increasing governmental scrutiny and control. Thereby it will pose a danger to the religious liberties of us all.

Already, the American Catholic Church is under the regulatory microscope. We’ve mentioned the stunning grand jury report from Pennsylvania. Attorneys general in five other states — Illinois, New York, Nebraska, New Mexico, Missouri, and now Kentucky — have been quick to take the cue.

These investigations may well reveal problems as deep, intractable, and serious as those discovered in Pennsylvania. That is, the systematic abuse of children was known to be occurring, and no one did anything about it.

Federal and state courts have already been involved, e.g., in diocesan bankruptcy cases. They are now likely to be trying larger numbers of criminal cases related to the abuse scandals, including some against ranking Catholic prelates. There is even a possibility that the Department of Justice may launch an anti-racketeering suit against the American Catholic Church.

Yes, there is a sturdy tradition of religious liberty in this country, and it enjoys constitutional protection in the First Amendment. But in the past several years, that tradition has been weakening, and government has asserted broader power to control decisions that churches once considered their own.

The Obama administration’s “contraception mandate” is a case in point. Given that growing numbers of Americans have severed their affiliations to any religion or church, the public (and the courts) may grow increasingly indifferent to arguments of behalf of religious liberty, and come to regard governmental regulation of all churches with greater acceptance. These trends will be aggravated if the largest American denomination seems scandal-ridden and unable to right itself. That makes the problems of the Catholic Church a matter of the highest concern for us all.

Gazing Into the Abyss

It is absolutely essential that Catholics grasp the depth of this crisis. As we have said, we think it will become as severe and as comprehensive as the crisis of the Protestant Reformation 500 years ago. With remarkable swiftness, Catholicism simply collapsed in what had been Catholic strongholds — most of Germany, Scandinavia, the Netherlands, Switzerland, England, Scotland, and very nearly France. In recent decades, Catholicism has likewise lost its grip in what had been bastions — like French Canada, Spain, Ireland, and Brazil.

Forty years ago, virtually the entire population of southern Ireland turned out to welcome Pope John Paul II. A few weeks ago, the Irish population essentially shunned the visiting Pope Francis, and the Irish prime minister gave him a stern lecture on his church’s reduced place in that country. What would St. Patrick, who, despite just escaping from slavery in pagan Ireland, returned to the island after hearing the screams of the damned in his dreams, think of the church today?

As goes Ireland, so will go the rest of Roman Catholic Christendom. The church in Germany has been rocked by scandal and there are thousands of known-victims. Already, the hierarchy of the Catholic Church is under judgment in Chile, the United States, Australia, France, and Honduras. The crisis has long since gone global.

In fact, as the Catholic scholar Benjamin Wiker has argued, the current crisis is more threatening for the Catholic Church than the Protestant Reformation 500 years ago. For one thing, the Reformation began in a society that was still overwhelmingly Christian. Some historians of the pre-Reformation period even argue that Christian piety was deepening and broadening in the run-up to the Reformation, and that the Christian laity was already assuming a more prominent role in managing church affairs (a development greatly accelerated by Lutherans and Calvinists). But the contemporary Western world seems rapidly to be losing whatever residual Christianity was left in it. That makes a Catholic recovery more problematic.

Second, the internet spreads news of the Catholic crisis within seconds into every house. Everyone knows everything. Pope Francis, who seems to prefer talking about plastics in our oceans over the systemic problem of child abuse, may count on a friendly and collaborative media to ignore or downplay the charges Archbishop Vigano recently brought personally against him. But even if information leaks out drip by drip, the Catholic hierarchy and the Vatican can no longer safely rely on secrecy and on silence to cover their misdeeds.

Just as the printing press was a major force in the spread of the Reformation in Martin Luther’s Germany, so internet journalism (and, who knows, even the mainstream media when the pope is no longer useful to their agenda) will sooner or later force the disclosure of the facts. So it will not do for Catholics simply to say, “We have been through this before. We will make it through again.” In the end, that belief may be vindicated. We sincerely hope it is. But in the meanwhile, they must be energetically fashioning responses that are truly commensurate to this crisis.

Willis L. Krumholz lives in Minneapolis, Minnesota. He is a JD/MBA graduate from the University of St. Thomas, and works in the financial services industry. Robert J. Delahunty is a professor of law at the University of St Thomas and has taught Constitutional Law there for a decade.


TOPICS: Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: catholics; catholicsexscandal; popesexscandal; sexscandal; sexualabuse
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To: RegulatorCountry
>> There are quite a few traditionalist Catholics on this site who aver that Protestants are not Christians, so you might want to look into that since it disturbs you. <<

Ping me their names, I'll be happy to tell them personally that they're wrong. A devout Baptist is certainly a Christian whether they like it or not.

Though I suspect if you did a poll, you'd find about 10X as many "evangelicals" denying that Catholics are Christians, than vice versa.

95% of the Catholics I've met have no problem accepting all mainstream Orthodox and Protestant denominations are Christian.

21 posted on 09/17/2018 12:16:53 PM PDT by BillyBoy (States rights is NOT a suicide pact.)
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To: BillyBoy
I don’t recall seeing a single post from a protestant FReeper during Pope Benedict’s reign saying they liked or admired or respected him, even when he said stuff they agreed with or promoted conservative values.

I personally thought he did a good job as the leader of Catholicism... but since I'm not a Roman, it was not my focus.

(with all the usual caveats, like there is no church office of pope in the NT)

Have you commented on the leadership of any of the other denominations?

22 posted on 09/17/2018 12:18:46 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: BillyBoy

Sounds like you are butthurt...

Considering the condition of the RCC today, I think you have bigger fish to fry...than dragging up old wounds...


23 posted on 09/17/2018 12:21:33 PM PDT by Popman ("GOD´S NOT LOOKING FOR PARTNERSHIP WITH US, BUT OWNERSHIP OF US")
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To: SeekAndFind
Worried...inasmuch as Marxists in the West,and elsewhere,will use this to try to destroy not just Catholicism but Christianity.
24 posted on 09/17/2018 12:23:45 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (I've Never Owned Slaves...You've Never Picked Cotton.End Of "Discussion".)
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To: RegulatorCountry

——There are quite a few traditionalist Catholics on this site who aver that Protestants are not Christians, so you might want to look into that since it disturbs you.——

I can’t tell you how many times I was accused of being a heretic and destined to everlasting hell because I didn’t bow down to Rome...sort of become humorous..


25 posted on 09/17/2018 12:26:33 PM PDT by Popman ("GOD´S NOT LOOKING FOR PARTNERSHIP WITH US, BUT OWNERSHIP OF US")
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To: MeganC

Thank you.

This is actually the first time I’ve read the “Vigano letter” and it’s made me even more sad.

Please keep praying for all of us.


26 posted on 09/17/2018 12:41:27 PM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: unlearner; BillyBoy
Christianity, as a religion, is made up of Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant, and maybe some other branches of Christendom. There are true, born-again believers—followers of Christ—who are in the Catholic Church and other churches.

That's a very naive statement, since the theologies of the evangelical and liturgical churches have absolutely nothing in common (except a vocabulary that means something completely different to each group). Their doctrines are completely contradictory to each other. They can't all be true. To pretend that Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Nestorians, high church Anglicans, and low church Fundamentalist Protestants all share the same religion is simply nonsense on the face of it.

To say otherwise is to simply be engaging in ecumania.

27 posted on 09/17/2018 12:46:46 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ("Conservatism" without G-d is just another form of Communism.)
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To: RegulatorCountry; BillyBoy
Reg, I have been here at FR since before 2000 (I was here on my husband's account, don-o, before I signed up myself) --- and I have never seen a Catholic at this site who said Protestants are not Christians.

And you've seen "quite a few"? OK, please send links identifying those Catechism-rejecting Catholics who say non-Catholics who profess Christ are not Christians, and I will go after them hammer and tongs.

I'll be the Nemesis on the Premises. I'll thwack 'em like an Old School Nun.

29 posted on 09/17/2018 12:57:06 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Every one of you who was baptized into Christ, has put on Christ." - Galatians 3:27)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

You must be on a different religion forum than I’ve been on, or perhaps outrageous statements only register for you when coming from outside your particular sect, because Protestants have been being called heretics for the entire 13 years I’ve been here, on the religion forum with which I’m familiar. Am I going to go back and name every single one? No, I’m not going to spend days looking for it, but do me a favor and police your own going forward, since you’ve made the offer. It will be much appreciated.


30 posted on 09/17/2018 1:01:52 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Zionist Conspirator
>> That's a very naive statement, since the theologies of the evangelical and liturgical churches have absolutely nothing in common (except a vocabulary that means something completely different to each group). Their doctrines are completely contradictory to each other. They can't all be true <<

The same can be said for any of the major world religions.

Put an ultra-orthodox Hasidic Jewish rabbi from Israel in the same room with a female lesbian reform Jewish rabbi from New York City and let me know how much common ground they can find theologically, though both will be seen as "Jewish Rabbis" to the general public.

Get a follower of Tolu-e-Islam (which rejects all hadiths) in the same room with the Ayatollah of Iran and see much common ground they can agree on. Bring in some radical black activist from the "Nation of Islam" (he will undoubtedly self-identify as a "Muslim" in public) in good measure and see how much he can agree with the other two.

Have a devout follower of Lingayatism Hinudism (they are an extremist monotheistic Shiva sect that believes Shiva alone is the one true God) meet up with a Hare Krishna (International Society for Krishna Consciousness) from California. See if they agree on anything. Both will claim to be Hindus.

31 posted on 09/17/2018 1:18:06 PM PDT by BillyBoy (States rights is NOT a suicide pact.)
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To: BillyBoy; Impy; GOPsterinMA

I’m “technically” a Protestant, although consider myself an unaligned (non-sectarian) Christian (but deeply interested and concerned about the situation within the Catholic Church).

I don’t remember criticizing Pope Benedict, except for his abdication. It may simply have been the challenges and infestation of the sodomite cancer in the church was such that he was incapable of dealing with it. I think he was blackmailed/coerced into abdication, however.


32 posted on 09/17/2018 1:19:27 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: Mrs. Don-o
>> And you've seen "quite a few"? OK, please send links identifying those Catechism-rejecting Catholics who say non-Catholics who profess Christ are not Christians, and I will go after them hammer and tongs. <<

I challenged him to do as well, because I'd love to tell these "Catholics" that they're wrong. Let me see a list of the screennames. Ping 'em all to this thread.

33 posted on 09/17/2018 1:20:09 PM PDT by BillyBoy (States rights is NOT a suicide pact.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
To pretend that Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Nestorians, high church Anglicans, and low church Fundamentalist Protestants all share the same religion is simply nonsense on the face of it.

No, if one confesses Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of the Living God, one is a Christian. Jews would agree that those who do such are Christians.
34 posted on 09/17/2018 1:21:40 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

That’s it

Chaste homosexual priests ok

Apparently not


35 posted on 09/17/2018 1:24:23 PM PDT by wardaddy (I donÂ’t care that youÂ’re not a racist......The Hill just zotted me for saying libtard)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Without names, dates, name of the city where this alleged party occurred, it is difficult to police the alleged incident;

Christians can suffer from partial knowledge, and even heresies, and still be considered Christian.
36 posted on 09/17/2018 1:26:45 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
Peace.

Not to be unduly challenging, but just reaching for clarity here: You say thee are "quite a few" Catholics in FR who say Protestants are not Christians. Could you find me one? Seriously.

I've honestly not seen it, but if you have, I want to swing into my self-appointed but hopefully constructive role of Mater et Magistra and Remedial Catechist Lady.

I don't know what your experience has been here at FR, but it's possible there may have been a misunderstanding of basic terms. Believing in a heresy (a religious error) or being in schism (formal church separation, esp. with bishops not in communion with each other) is not the same as being "non-Christian" or "damned."

I fully expect to see throngs of blessed souls rejoicing around the Throne of God who might have been involved in some degree of heresy or schism on this earth. As far as I can see (I speak here of my own observation), most heresy and schism stems from having been born and raised in a "separated" group and involves honest mistakes with no conscious choice against the Truth.

You have to be pretty "knowing" and "intentional" --- in other words, informed and deliberate --- to be culpable guilty of "formal heresy" especially in today's world, where confusion is so endemic.

Jesus is a just judge: so just, that when He makes His judgment, every single soul will say, "He's a genius: He's speaking exactly to my heart and my condition, and He got that absolutely right."

So Catholic doctrine explicitly teaches that a person in innocent error is not, for that reason, non-Christian or hated by God or damned.

I suppose there may be people who don't know that.

37 posted on 09/17/2018 1:28:13 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Every one of you who was baptized into Christ, has put on Christ." - Galatians 3:27)
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To: BillyBoy

I generally agree with your position. In fact, I generally agree about Calvinism. But there are Calvinistic teachers I respect very much. I just don’t agree on some specific teachings, like 5-point Calvinism.

“To guys like Ray Comfort and his ilk, millions of people who sincerely believe in the Holy Trinity are no different than Buddhists.”

I have watched a lot of videos by Ray Comfort and believe that he is not only a true, born-again follower of Christ, but also a very good and gifted Evangelist. I cannot speak for him on his views of Catholicism, but what I’ve seen in his public videos is a willingness to engage anyone with a challenge as to whether they have repented of their sins and trusted in Christ for salvation. This offends a lot of people from all walks of life who tend to think the message proclaiming their need for salvation is offensive. These may be atheists, Catholics, Protestants, or others.

The reality is that people can grow up in a Catholic or Protestant church, or even be a clergyman of such a church, and have never actually received the gift of eternal life.

I’ll go further on your example. The demons know the Trinity is real, but they do not have saving faith. A person who has received a great deal of the truth and has heard the Bible read and proclaimed is in more danger than the Buddhist who never heard the message of salvation, unless they also respond to the message with repentance and faith. To whom much is given, much is required.

When people with a church background hear the Gospel preached to them, often they become defensive and rely on their church membership as evidence that the message is not for them. But it is especially for them (i.e. us). In the rare cases someone tries to share the Gospel with me in public, I let them know I already have trusted in Christ for salvation. I don’t get defensive because I’m glad that someone cares enough to try to win lost souls. If they are preaching a false Gospel though I warn them and give them scripture on what the true Gospel message is.


38 posted on 09/17/2018 1:30:04 PM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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To: RegulatorCountry; Mrs. Don-o
>> Am I going to go back and name every single one? No <<

So far you haven't name a SINGLE one, let alone the "tons" you claim to "know".

Mrs. Don-o and I were curious because from personal experience we would find it very strange to see a catechism-beliving faithful Catholic try to argue with a straight face that devout mainstream protestants "are not Christian". I've never met anyone who says that in this day and age. It would be like hearing a Trump voter argue that George W. Bush was not President.

I had an interesting debate on facebook with fellow Catholics about a week ago, and they claimed the opposite: that they had "never" seen a devout protestant facebook friend claim Catholics "are not Christian". I was then able to show a discussion thread from only one day earlier where one of the board members on their friends list made a public statement that "many people do not know the real truth behind the Catholic Church, that it mixes Christian-sounding terms with paganism so to be Catholic means that one is not a Christian and does not know Christ"

Funny how they "never" noticed comments like that.

39 posted on 09/17/2018 1:32:45 PM PDT by BillyBoy (States rights is NOT a suicide pact.)
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To: Popman
#29 and #37...

To You Too!

Your thoughts?

40 posted on 09/17/2018 1:37:49 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Every one of you who was baptized into Christ, has put on Christ." - Galatians 3:27)
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