Posted on 01/07/2018 1:17:40 PM PST by tiredofallofit
But that chain of authority is often not so clear in the church world, especially amongst non-denominational evangelicals. If a man or woman steps up behind a pulpit and speaks to us authoritatively on matters of theology, why do we automatically accept this authority? Is it because we like what we hear? Or do we validate the authority because the pastor’s interpretation of the Bible jives with our own understanding? But who are we to even make that judgement? Why is our interpretation of the Bible any better than the person sitting next to us on the pew? And if we disagree with an aspect of the pastor’s views, do we have a right to question him? Or do we have to accept what he says because we have already consented to his authority?
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More words.
I predict it won't be long before a Picture Is Worth A THOUSNAD words!!
"One indeed is the universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved, in which the priest himself is the sacrifice, Jesus Christ, whose body and blood are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the species of bread and wine; the bread (changed) into His body by the divine power of transubstantiation, and the wine into the blood, so that to accomplish the mystery of unity we ourselves receive from His (nature) what He Himself received from ours."
--Pope Innocent III and Lateran Council IV (A.D. 1215)
I was born and raised Catholic, when I turned 16 I started seriously studying the word. It took me about 6 months, to realize I was being fed untruths for most of my life.
2Tim 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. 5 But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.
It is until you bring up Unam Sanctam. Roman Catholics are ok with half of that Bull. They don’t like the part about having to be subject to the pope...in all matters.
Your testimony is one of the reasons Rome doesn't want its members to read the Word.
It is the testimony of many of the former Roman Catholics on these threads and those I know in real life.
During my entire time in Catechism class, we never once read directly from the bible, we always read from the workbooks provided by the Archdiocese. When I began to ask about purgatory and transubstantiation and teachers couldn’t show where in the bible it was, that’s when I began to question. I would really love to sit down with my Catholic friends and ask them if they truly, really believe that the Wafer and wine are truly changed into the literal body and blood of Christ. I would venture to say that a large majority of them would say no. If that’s the case, then they really shouldn’t be Catholic.
That's not a surprise. When I look at the MDiv requirements of Roman Catholic schools there is a great deal of emphasis on non-Biblical items. Combine that with the readings at Mass and you can see how little Scripture the average Roman Catholic is exposed to.
I will in fairness say, a lot of non-Catholics aren't exposed to a lot of Bible either....sadly.
When I began to ask about purgatory and transubstantiation and teachers couldn’t show where in the bible it was, that’s when I began to question. I would really love to sit down with my Catholic friends and ask them if they truly, really believe that the Wafer and wine are truly changed into the literal body and blood of Christ. I would venture to say that a large majority of them would say no. If that’s the case, then they really shouldn’t be Catholic.
I think a lot of Roman Catholics have a hard time explaining transubstantiation. Purgatory seems to have been toned down among some Roman Catholics. I agree neither are supported in Scripture.
I will say though, that the Roman Catholics on these threads seem to believe it actually happens.
“I have found the claims of its Fathers, Doctors, Saints and Martyrs to be trustworthy and reliable.
How are they trustworthy and reliable are “claims” when they contradict each other, as the very often do??
Why did you leave out the one source of Holy Spirit inspired truth that the Savior relied on and found trustworthy??
At least then they are true believers. But I also know a large number of Catholics, who practice birth control and are divorced and remarried who take communion. Why I ask them why they remain within a church that doesn’t really accept them, they shrug and just say, ‘Because”.
“I was born and raised Catholic, when I turned 16 I started seriously studying the word. It took me about 6 months, to realize I was being fed untruths for most of my life.”
+1
He talks about THE saints, meaning the saints that the RCC has beatified. He forgets Ephesians 1:1
“Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, to the saints which are at Ephesus, and to the faithful in Christ Jesus”
Paul believed ALL believers were Saints, there was no upper tier of Christians. My Pastor taught on this Sunday.
Excellent answer. In regard to preaching, you hit the nail on the head!
When I saw the headline, right away I wondered how much and what kinds of authority the writer believes a pastor has. (Furthermore, whose definition of “pastor” is he using?)
Since it’s mostly/only a KJV word—everywhere else, it’s better translated “shepherd”—I tend to suspect those who use it of having an unbiblical-clergy-vs-laity, Roman Catholic or apostate-protestant worldview.
They don't understand anything beyond what they were taught by men. Certainly not the assurance of salvation, nor eternal life in the presence of God, nor what it means to be a saint now.
It is sad. As the saying goes...
"Hey Rome! You only had one job!!"
The problem is that since every thing is wrote down
most of what we need to know takes no
interpreting.
There is no reason for a pastor to start interpreting
unless he is ask.
If the directions on a jar says turn left to open I
suppose that there are people who would think they had
to explain that to me.
But the point is that people needs to have a chance to
ask themselves the meaning of things that are not so clear
as it gives them reason be interested.
most of what Jesus taught us is already interpreted so the only reason a pastor would to reinterpret that would be to
make us think it says something else.
If the pastor is wrong every one who believes him is wrong.
She finally got something right!
Right, the only difference is that the Catholics are
the mother of the prostitute daughters.
However we have had many men and women who are of God
come from each one of them who has spread the gospel
all over the world in spite of all of the paganism.
God works wonders.
I believe you can get your authority to become a pastor online.
I think there was a time you could just fill out a card from a box of cereal.
Why do they preach against what Jesus said then?
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