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Where does a pastor get his authority?
Running Away From My Church Blog ^ | 1/7/2018 | Robert Messner

Posted on 01/07/2018 1:17:40 PM PST by tiredofallofit

But that chain of authority is often not so clear in the church world, especially amongst non-denominational evangelicals. If a man or woman steps up behind a pulpit and speaks to us authoritatively on matters of theology, why do we automatically accept this authority? Is it because we like what we hear? Or do we validate the authority because the pastor’s interpretation of the Bible jives with our own understanding? But who are we to even make that judgement? Why is our interpretation of the Bible any better than the person sitting next to us on the pew? And if we disagree with an aspect of the pastor’s views, do we have a right to question him? Or do we have to accept what he says because we have already consented to his authority?

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These are tough questions to answer. But I don't think that many Christians think about them, unfortunately.
1 posted on 01/07/2018 1:17:40 PM PST by tiredofallofit
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To: tiredofallofit

From his congregation, the Body of Christ.


2 posted on 01/07/2018 1:23:14 PM PST by GingisK
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To: tiredofallofit

The fact that THE SON OF GOD INSTITUTED the office of The Word and Sacraments also in the New Testament cannot be doubted. The church has been commanded to call and install ministers, and to this has been added, in the first place, the promise that GOD APPROVES of those who have been called by the voice of the church (my emphases)
-Martin Chemnitz


3 posted on 01/07/2018 1:23:36 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: tiredofallofit

Where did Paul get his authority?


4 posted on 01/07/2018 1:28:46 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: tiredofallofit

A Pastor has no authority, he is given a responsibility by the Head of the Church, Jesus Christ. Authority implies control, and the ability to mete out punishment. A Pastor is simply a Shepherd keeping his flock safe and fed. Mostly with the knowledge of the Word, but also feeding the physically hungry of his flock.


5 posted on 01/07/2018 1:31:14 PM PST by Glad2bnuts (If Republicans are not prepared to carry on the Revolution of 1776, prepare for a communist takeover)
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To: tiredofallofit

>> If a man or woman steps up behind a pulpit and speaks to us authoritatively on matters of theology, why do we automatically accept this authority?

I don’t automatically accept his (or her) authority. I accept their calling to say something and listen. If their teachings are valid in accordance with Scripture, then I accept their teaching. If their leadership is in accordance with Scripture, then I accept their authority.


6 posted on 01/07/2018 1:31:19 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Asking a pro athlete for political advice is like asking a cavalry horse for tactical advice.)
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To: tiredofallofit
The Bereans were commended for verifying that what an Apostle of Jesus Christ preached to them was in fact Biblical teaching. See Acts 17:11.
7 posted on 01/07/2018 1:32:37 PM PST by boatbums (The Law is a storm which wrecks your hopes of self-salvation, but washes you upon the Rock of Ages.)
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To: tiredofallofit

Not tough, not “slippery” at all. If the chain of authority is not clear, it’s probably because it isn’t present.

You can find the clear chain of proper authority in the One, True, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church founded by Christ Jesus.


8 posted on 01/07/2018 1:37:46 PM PST by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: tiredofallofit
I know of many who have no authority.

But they speak and spread the truth as they know it.

9 posted on 01/07/2018 1:40:18 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: Bryanw92

Nail on head...


10 posted on 01/07/2018 1:40:31 PM PST by Popman (My sin was great, Your love was greater  What could separate us now…)
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To: tiredofallofit

What authority?


11 posted on 01/07/2018 1:54:57 PM PST by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: tiredofallofit
If a man or woman steps up behind a pulpit and speaks to us authoritatively on matters of theology, why do we automatically accept this authority?

Speak for yourself, please. You might “automatically”accept someone else’s authority, but “we” do not. Generally being a civil person, I will give such a person the benefit of the doubt upon initial introduction, but if/when my ‘BS’ detector starts going off I will not hesitate to question ANYONE.

12 posted on 01/07/2018 1:58:32 PM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: infool7

I disagree with you, but don’t want to debate it. So I’ll just ask how much time have you spent pouring over the Scriptures to verify the claims of Rome? Are you a Berean in the spirit of Acts 17? Have you truly considered other views on Rome’s claims? I don’t matter, so those are questions for you to answer to yourself, not to me. Most men aren’t honest, even with themselves. Most men don’t study. Most men put their eternal souls in the hands of others. Most men are fooled spiritually. The Bible teaches there is a way that seems right to men, but the end thereof is death. On what basis did Rome convince you?


13 posted on 01/07/2018 1:58:49 PM PST by .45 Long Colt
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To: Glad2bnuts

Excellent point.


14 posted on 01/07/2018 1:59:02 PM PST by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill)
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To: ealgeone

Paul and Barnabus received the laying on of hands from the Church in Antioch and were sent forth. Paul, of course, met Christ on the road to Damascus but he still needed to be sent out by the church.


15 posted on 01/07/2018 2:08:58 PM PST by tiredofallofit
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To: infool7

The article specifically mentions non-denominational churches. That is where authority becomes an issue because often there is very little outside accountability.


16 posted on 01/07/2018 2:08:58 PM PST by tiredofallofit
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To: Bryanw92

But by attending a church are we not putting ourselves under that person’s authority? How many people ever question that authority?


17 posted on 01/07/2018 2:08:58 PM PST by tiredofallofit
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To: RoosterRedux

Are you commending this? Should truth be spread as they know it or as it is?


18 posted on 01/07/2018 2:08:58 PM PST by tiredofallofit
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To: tiredofallofit
These are tough questions to answer.

Actually, they are quite easy. Christ did not make it hard for His followers.

Christ told, and Scripture contains the answers:

First, Christ wanted us to be ONE in faith and beliefs: “I appeal to you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought. 1Cor 1:10 Unfortunately, many Christians cannot agree on what the meaning of the word “is” is, as in “This IS my body”

Second, Scripture tells us what is the "pillar and foundation of Truth” And a hint – it is not Scripture - “But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.” 1Tim 3:15

Third, Scripture tells us a little about that Church Christ established - “Jesus replied, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by flesh and blood, but by my Father in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” Mat 16:17-18

Now what Church had Peter as its first leader?

I know there are may opinions on authority, but please use Scripture to support your opinion.

19 posted on 01/07/2018 2:09:27 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: tiredofallofit

Welcome to Free Republic


20 posted on 01/07/2018 2:10:45 PM PST by easternsky
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