Posted on 11/17/2017 9:02:07 AM PST by Lera
Pastor J.D. reviews the importance of the pre-Tribulation Rapture and why it can happen perhaps today. The stage is being set by world events that are breaking daily. He exhorts all to look up expectantly. This was at Understanding the Times 2017 on October 7.
So what does that have to do with Farag and why do you put a space in front of your punctuation?
We want him to come because we are ready to meet him even if we die before he comes.
We who? Who is "we"?
Does meeting him scare you ?
Who, your Farage dude? Nope, ain't scared of him.
Is he a scary dude?
I don’t have a probable with the story .
What I am saying is you can not base doctrine on historical books since they are not perfect because they are not inspired by the Holy Spirit . Everything you need for doctrine is in the Scriptures .
You mentioned that you know why Sarah wasn’t there .
I know the Rabbis say Sarah wasn’t there because she was going to buy the cave in Hebron that she was buried in.
In reality Sarah was not there when Abraham bound Issac because God did not want her to be there . Abraham knew the promises God had given him through Issac and he knew he was acting out prophecy and that is why he said God himself would provide the lamb. Sarah wasn’t there because Abraham acting out the sacrifice is a picture of the Father sacrificing his Son . That’s the real reason behind why Sarah was not there and God had her somewhere else. You miss stuff like this if you put to value on a tradition instead of what the word actually says .
Hush
Stop putting words in his mouth .
He has never claimed to be a prophet.
He has never prophesied anything.
If you had bothered to watch it or any of his post you come and constantly accuse him of this you wouldn’t be your mouth with the same slanderous lies week after week .
Going to say to you the same thing Jesus said to Peter when he spoke nonsense .
Mat_16:23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
The part after Peter and before the colon is for you.
"Peter, stop being a self-important dick!"
Yeah, that applies to His Excellency Pastor His Honor Farag.
My lady (?), I have no fear of meeting Jesus. I have no idea why you’d even suggest that.
But I HAVE seen how the dozens of failed rapture predictions have tried and wounded the faith of believers and turned people away from the faith.
Let the time and place be in the hands of the Father, as Scripture says, and be ready.
I am not sure where the Rabbis got that nonsense, but that is what it was. You have the Book of Jasher, so turn to Chapter 23. There is also some setup at the end of Chapter 22.
Sarah is in Hebron because Satan had told her that Abraham had sacrificed Isaac and she had gone to look for them. When she gets to Hebron, Satan comes and tells her that he lied and Isaac is not dead. Then her joy was so exceedingly violent on account of her son, that her soul went out through joy; she died and was gathered to her people.
Abraham and Isaac get home, and are told Sarah went to Hebron looking for them.
And now, you know the rest of the story. ;-)
So then that whole series Left Behind is bogus? The UN antichrist guy?!?
"Thou hast said it."
Thanks for the ping sister!
I am eagerly anticipating our Blessed Hope!
Maranatha!
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I am not sure where the Rabbis got that nonsense, but that is what it was. You have the Book of Jasher, so turn to Chapter 23. There is also some setup at the end of Chapter 22.
Sarah is in Hebron because Satan had told her that Abraham had sacrificed Isaac and she had gone to look for them. When she gets to Hebron, Satan comes and tells her that he lied and Isaac is not dead. Then her joy was so exceedingly violent on account of her son, that her soul went out through joy; she died and was gathered to her people.
Abraham and Isaac get home, and are told Sarah went to Hebron looking for them.
And now, you know the rest of the story. ;-)]]
Ok look at it this way .
We know that the Scriptures are inspired by the Holy Spirit.
Ask yourself why did the Holy Spirit deem it unimportant to give us the details of why and how Sarah died ?
We know that Sarah knows God , we know she is saved just like Abraham is.
We know that everyone that is born will one day die yet the Holy Spirit does include the details of Sarah’s death in the Scriptures .
Why does not the Holy Spirit include this in the Scriptures ? Because it’s trivial and I don’t mean it in a bad way to lesson Sarah’s death . It’s a trivial detail because the Holy Spirit is pointing us to what Abraham is doing as typology of the Messiah .
The import detail in the whole story is that God “himself” will provide the lamb . You have Abraham (the father ) sacrificing Issac (his son)in the very place that God himself (the Father) will sacrifice his only begotten Son thousands of years later .God himself provides the lamb.
That is the import detail in the entire story , the typology of their Messiah that will die for their sins. All other knowledge about this event is trivial and that is why the Holy Spirit didn’t include it .
The bible is a Hebrew book and the Hebrew view prophesy as a pattern not like gentile mind thinks that prophecy is said done and finished . Typology is very important because all the typologies point to Messiah . Too many trivial details and you don’t dig in the Scripture and you miss what the Holy Spirit is trying to teach you .
Ask yourself why did the Holy Spirit deem it unimportant to give us the details of why and how Sarah died ?
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Actually, I already did that, and I told you part of it. The Scriptures needed to testify to the Messiah, and convey the Law of Moses. These details would have muddled things up, as you said, and that is the point. However, the test of some extra-Scriptural text is whether it matches the Scriptures (Acts 17:11), the actual Scripture and not someone’s interpretation of the Scriptures.
The Tanakh is also a holographic picture of the key events in the Gospel. So a lot of information had to be embedded in letters of the scriptures. If you have ever tried to embed a secret message in a plain text you know how hard this is to do. The main points of the 2016 Presidential Election are embedded using equal letter skips in the Book of Deuteronomy.
The ELS codes are only one of the ways things are encoded in the Tanakh. There are gematria values for words that that tie concepts together, and tie verses to people and dates. There were certain letters that were copied as bigger or smaller than the rest of the letters. One such pattern in the Book of Esther gives the year that ten Nazis (sons of Haman) would be hanged for the second Holocaust.
I have also noticed that you, like a lot of others, try to limit what the Holy Spirit of YHWH can do. That is not the way it works. He is the potter; we are the clay.
The “wise men” at CERN have just discovered, experimentally, that the Universe can’t possibly exist without an outside controlling factor. All the “Laws of Nature” ever discovered are differential laws. They need boundary conditions. The Word of YHWH provides those boundary conditions.
All of His creations can do what ever they want, as long as He permits it. When you run up against one of YHWH’s boundary conditions, you will follow it. So when the folks who assigned the Chapter and Verse numbers did their work, the Holy Spirit made sure that certain chapters of certain books had a Chapter 12 the told a story of the end times. The Holy Spirit made sure that certain verses had gematria values that linked to other verses and words and told a story of the end times.
As Peter writes, these are not cunningly devised fables (2Peter 1:16), but the more sure word of prophecy (2 Peter 1:19). This is reality. As Paul writes:
1CO13:08 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
1CO13:09 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.
1CO13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
1CO13:11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
1CO13:12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known. 1CO13:13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
God. KING JAMES BIBLE TOUCH - KJV (Kindle Locations 45281-45289). Kindle Edition.
Strange twist you have there. Please explain.
Everything you need is in the plain text but
I like looking for the hidden treasure :)
The uninspired books don’t have the hidden treasures .
The CERN guys will just ignore it the same way the people who unlocked the DNA did . They can’t handle the truth because they do not want it . It takes a pea brain to believe we came from nothing and it was all an accident because there is no such thing as true random and code does not write itself .
The Coming of the Son of Man
Matt 24:
29“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
A pre-tribulation Rapture is completely unbiblical. It’s a lie in a false.
A pre-tribulation Rapture is completely unbiblical. It’s a lie in a false.
[[A pre-tribulation Rapture is completely unbiblical. It’s a lie in a false.]]
One day you are going to be really surprised
Maranatha !
[[First the Tribulation then the return of the Lord.
The Coming of the Son of Man
Matt 24:
29“Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30Then will appear in heaven the sign of the Son of Man, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31And he will send out his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. ]]
No
First the rapture
Then God punishes the inhabitants of the earth (he isn’t an abuser that beats up his bride- his bride is hidden away during the indignation that comes upon the earth)
Then Matthew 24 - the second coming to save Israel from all the nasty inhabitants of the earth that have gathered around her to try to exterminate her.
Maybe, but I won't be deceived. A "secret" rapture is not what's taught in the bible.
Mat 24:23 "Then if anyone says to you, 'Look, here is the Christ!' or 'There!' do not believe it.
This is Jesus telling us that there are going to be people who at some point are going to try and tell us that the messiah has already come. In this case it's people telling us that the messiah will come and take away his people and THEN come again 7 years later. In other words, a THIRD coming. That's not biblical.
Mat 24:24 For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.
Mat 24:25 See, I have told you beforehand.
Mat 24:26 "Therefore if they say to you, 'Look, He is in the desert!' do not go out; or 'Look, He is in the inner rooms!' do not believe it.
Why are we not to believe that there is some kind of secret rapture?
Mat 24:27 For as the lightning comes from the east and flashes to the west, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be
The second, and LAST, coming of Jesus is going to be visible to everyone. It's going to be unmistakable. There will be no question that this is exactly what is going on.
This is the second coming of Christ. The church will still be on the earth. God may choose to protect the church, but we aren't with the Lord until he comes to earth...at the last trumpet...the trumpet that the 7th angel sounds:
Rev 11:15 Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, "The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!"
When the 7th angel sounds, Christ returns. He is physically here on earth and now claims physical rule of all nations on the earth. He returns at the last, the 7th, trumpet.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.
1Th 4:17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.
1Co 15:51 Behold, I tell you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed— 1Co 15:52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
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